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Post#161 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Mar 4, 2022 3:45 am

Pablo Escobar wrote:The Nets season relies on a mandate being reversed and a player who is such a pussy about shooting the basketball it gives him anxiety to play the game. Not looking good at all tbh and it's looking like Kd will have to play major minutes just to even be competitive in games.


The mandate doesn't look like it will be repealed.

Kyrie has basically left us out to dry.

Simmons wants to take another month off.

Its a total fantasy to think the Nets can seriously contend with two weeks of Simmons and a part time Kyrie.

Might be smart to just shut it down for KD and get ready for next season.
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Post#162 » by 3pt_chucker » Fri Mar 4, 2022 3:49 am

If the coaching doesn't get better, then idc if the team is fully healthy. The Nets won't go anywhere.
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Post#163 » by GTR11 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 3:51 am

Jay555 wrote:Heat are without 3 starters and on a back to back. How did we lose this?

Harris out for the season, mandate still there & Simmons too scared to play, KD's face says it all.

Well, fire the clown he wanted here.

Oh follow up question, we still don't need coach?

MDB is 100% right. Flat earth creature is main/only reason that holding this team back. Preferring Kyrie over Harden is a joke, you can't even debate that. No GM in this league will give s*** for Kyrie. Harden fetching 3-5picks and legit players along.
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Post#164 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Mar 4, 2022 3:52 am

3pt_chucker wrote:If the coaching doesn't get better, then idc if the team is fully healthy. The Nets won't go anywhere.


It seems that even if we flame out all the blame will to injuries and Kyrie.

Nash will get another chance. Which will be an epic disaster.

Our only hope is to clean house and hire a seasoned coach.
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Post#165 » by 3pt_chucker » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:01 am

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3pt_chucker wrote:If the coaching doesn't get better, then idc if the team is fully healthy. The Nets won't go anywhere.


It seems that even if we flame out all the blame will to injuries and Kyrie.

Nash will get another chance. Which will be an epic disaster.

Our only hope is to clean house and hire a seasoned coach.


Last season, his deficiencies were masked by Ime or MDA. Now it's Vaughn, Vanterpool which is horrible.

Also, apparently Marks doesn't allow Nash to choose his own coaches which is awful.
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Post#166 » by MGrand15 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:03 am

Our problems are incredibly basic.

Tonight's rotation featured 4 nonshooters. 2 of them were on the floor most of the time. 3 of them played together at one point. That makes it incredibly difficult to generate offense unless a scorer does something spectacular or the defense screws up. Over 48 minutes, any decent team will adjust and damn near stop the offense.

The Heat are missing all their guys but 1-15 they're built in a modern way. Even when we were up big, they were consistently getting pretty good looks. Giving Herro and Bam space to work. Eventually it catches up.

It's kind of funny because last year we were built like the Heat. Tyler Johnson and Mike James and Shamet would step in and our offense would still click. We made sure to only play Brown with Green or Blake at center. The offense always generated good shots.

Now we're playing Johnson, Claxton, and Drummond together and wondering why we don't score.

This whole staff needs to go ASAP. D'Antoni should be option 1. If not, we need an offensive minded guy badly. I literally don't care about defense with this team. This is elementary school stuff. It's literally been a problem since GAME 1 and they refuse to adjust.

How is Edwards in the dog house? The only guy who can pretend to be a 3+D guy on the team.
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Post#167 » by MGrand15 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:08 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:If the coaching doesn't get better, then idc if the team is fully healthy. The Nets won't go anywhere.


It seems that even if we flame out all the blame will to injuries and Kyrie.

Nash will get another chance. Which will be an epic disaster.

Our only hope is to clean house and hire a seasoned coach.


I don't think so. This is the first time in a long time that i remember YES openly questioning coaching moves. Beat reporters don't understand what's going on. Def never happened last year or with Kenny.

I think Nash is gone the second we're eliminated. I think he got saved this season because firing him and trading Harden midseason would be a media circus.
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Post#168 » by Kobe187 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:09 am

Heat bullied the Nets down the stretch, Nets just too small. Have Durant at SF and play with a bit more size during crunch time.
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Post#169 » by 3pt_chucker » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:44 am

Kobe187 wrote:Heat bullied the Nets down the stretch, Nets just too small. Have Durant at SF and play with a bit more size during crunch time.


Actually no. The couldn't handle Bam Adebayo being the main initiator of offense because Drummond and Aldridge were too big and slow. Nets actually brought the game back when KD was at the 5 cuz, he was fleet of foot enough to guard both Bam and any guard (Herro, Gabe Vincent), if the Heat tried to force a switch.

No way you were watching the same game.
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Post#170 » by Kobe187 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:59 am

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Kobe187 wrote:Heat bullied the Nets down the stretch, Nets just too small. Have Durant at SF and play with a bit more size during crunch time.


Actually no. The couldn't handle Bam Adebayo being the main initiator of offense because Drummond and Aldridge were too big and slow. Nets actually brought the game back when KD was at the 5 cuz, he was fleet of foot enough to guard both Bam and any guard (Herro, Gabe Vincent), if the Heat tried to force a switch.

No way you were watching the same game.


Watch the stretch drive again, lots of whistles during crunch time with time outs resulting in more half court offence, bodies start banging a bit more down the stretch and refs have a lower tendency to call fouls towards the end of the game. Our 1-4 could not seal or box out the Heat 1-4, this resulted in making the game more challenging for the Nets and on a few plays it was Durant facing tough contest shots with 2 guys always closing in on him as we couldn’t seal, screen, box or set picks.
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Post#171 » by GTR11 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 5:44 am

Well we obviously getting trolled right now.

Just listen to this guy Chubz from 50m mark. That's pretty much what anyone with any clue would say.

These trash we call coaches here, should gtfoh now.

https://youtu.be/YewYHXMw6AM

This is abc for anyone who ayed and know bball.
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Post#172 » by ecuhus1981 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 10:48 am

This one stings.

Another home loss. Another shaky end to the 1st half, and another 3rd quarter collapse after the shaky end to the 1st half failed to elicit any adjustment from our coaching staff. On Kevin's return. Which drops us to 32-32.

Kyrie has dug in his heels, I think that he thinks he is days away from full participation. I think that there will be another hurdle, or setback. I halfway expect him to injure himself while stepping on Lucky again next week. While I of course don't wish it, wouldn't that be ironic?

Ben is in arbitration with Philly for his back pay (no pun intended). That's the reason for this whole "weeks not days" charade. I think that Morey knew before the deal, that he could weaken us by holding the purse strings to the contract and fine money they have in escrow for Simmons. I believe he's healthy, but if he plays now, he forfeits all of that.

Joe was the redeeming hope. I think that our medical staff botched his surgery.

Patty even sulks now. You have to be a special kind of toxic environment to ruin that man's spirit.

Of course, at the heart of it all, Nash is terrible at his job. And Sean won't fire him. Because Kevin won't give the go-ahead.

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Post#173 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:40 pm

Why does Durant want Nash as coach? that should be asked of him....
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Post#174 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:55 pm

By the way, Vaughn all but assured everyone that he shouldn't have a head coaching job in this league. Spo ate his lunch with that Bam/Herro 2 man action. ZERO adjustments.
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Post#175 » by GTR11 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 5:48 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:By the way, Vaughn all but assured everyone that he shouldn't have a head coaching job in this league. Spo ate his lunch with that Bam/Herro 2 man action. ZERO adjustments.

How strong is Marks JV connection? He was here since Marks took over right. I really doubt he getting fired. If Nash will get fired during off-season, he'd outlive two HC while getting HC pay.
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Post#176 » by 3pt_chucker » Fri Mar 4, 2022 7:56 pm

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Kobe187 wrote:Heat bullied the Nets down the stretch, Nets just too small. Have Durant at SF and play with a bit more size during crunch time.


Actually no. The couldn't handle Bam Adebayo being the main initiator of offense because Drummond and Aldridge were too big and slow. Nets actually brought the game back when KD was at the 5 cuz, he was fleet of foot enough to guard both Bam and any guard (Herro, Gabe Vincent), if the Heat tried to force a switch.

No way you were watching the same game.


Watch the stretch drive again, lots of whistles during crunch time with time outs resulting in more half court offence, bodies start banging a bit more down the stretch and refs have a lower tendency to call fouls towards the end of the game. Our 1-4 could not seal or box out the Heat 1-4, this resulted in making the game more challenging for the Nets and on a few plays it was Durant facing tough contest shots with 2 guys always closing in on him as we couldn’t seal, screen, box or set picks.


What are you talking about? GO watch the game again because this is not right at all.

In crunch time the Nets went small with KD at the 5. The Heat had a 9pt lead with 3 mins left. The defense improved immediately and cut the Nets cut the lead to 2. Seth missed an open 3 and then the Heat had a last second 3 from Strus and got a unlucky bounce offensive board but then the Nets forced a 24sec violation. KD then missed a a 3 that went in and out. IF either KD or Seth were able to hit those 3's the Nets would've won.

The Heat blew the game open because:
1) Drummond and LMA could not deal with Bam. He dragged them out to the perimiter and the Heat ran multiple actions with DHO's and cuts around him. If the Nets shut those down, Bam was too quick for both and was able to get the rim or midrange with ease. Then the Heat did a 2 man game with Herro and Bam in the 4th which lead to back to back to back easy looks(alley-oops etc).
Dedmon was (-8) and Bam was (+12). Why? because Drumm and Aldridge can actually guard Deadmon and the actions the Heat run with Deadmon on the floor were much easier to defend.

2) James Johnson was HORRIFIC at chasing Heat shooters, particularly Max Struss. Johnson is great at guarding big wings but he can't chase guards around because he's not quick enough and sucks at navigating through traffic. It lead to 2 open corner 3's and a wide open 3 at the top of the key.

3) GARBAGE offensive sets(granted some very makeable shot were missed). When Heat went zone we struggled to get KD properly involved at the FT line. Vaughn is OBSESSED with playing Mills as a ball handler even though he struggles to dribble! There was very little dribble penetration because we played far too long with Seth and Mills as the guards. Cam and Bruce Brown were the only ones that could penetrate the zone on a drive/get to the middle of the floor. I can go on and on but I'll just get mad again.
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Post#177 » by 3pt_chucker » Fri Mar 4, 2022 8:03 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Our problems are incredibly basic.

Tonight's rotation featured 4 nonshooters. 2 of them were on the floor most of the time. 3 of them played together at one point. That makes it incredibly difficult to generate offense unless a scorer does something spectacular or the defense screws up. Over 48 minutes, any decent team will adjust and damn near stop the offense.

The Heat are missing all their guys but 1-15 they're built in a modern way. Even when we were up big, they were consistently getting pretty good looks. Giving Herro and Bam space to work. Eventually it catches up.

It's kind of funny because last year we were built like the Heat. Tyler Johnson and Mike James and Shamet would step in and our offense would still click. We made sure to only play Brown with Green or Blake at center. The offense always generated good shots.

Now we're playing Johnson, Claxton, and Drummond together and wondering why we don't score.

This whole staff needs to go ASAP. D'Antoni should be option 1. If not, we need an offensive minded guy badly. I literally don't care about defense with this team. This is elementary school stuff. It's literally been a problem since GAME 1 and they refuse to adjust.

How is Edwards in the dog house? The only guy who can pretend to be a 3+D guy on the team.


The last 3 game shows that Vaughn is a"play the vets guy". Kessler, Cam and Clax should be playing more mins than LMA, Mills and JJ but Vaughn much rather play cement footed LMA, dead legs Patty and Kung Fu JJ even though they are stinking up the joint.

The coaching staff is obsessed with playing James Johnson just because he can kind of dribble a little bit. He's far too Jekyll and Hyde to be running an offense. Plus he can't shoot 3's or even hit FTs and is a foul machine. He can defend bigger wings and small ball 5's but that's it. How they can't see this is criminal. He's a 14th guy, yet they are treating him like a 6th man. It's infuriating.

Don't get me started on the Patty Mills usage. Why they still let him initiate offense when he literally struggles to dribble is beyond me. He should be catch and shoot only with the occasional pull up in transition and pump fake side step 3 he's good at.
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Post#178 » by 3pt_chucker » Fri Mar 4, 2022 8:04 pm

GTR11 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:By the way, Vaughn all but assured everyone that he shouldn't have a head coaching job in this league. Spo ate his lunch with that Bam/Herro 2 man action. ZERO adjustments.

How strong is Marks JV connection? He was here since Marks took over right. I really doubt he getting fired. If Nash will get fired during off-season, he'd outlive two HC while getting HC pay.


He's the HIGHEST PAID assistant coach in the league. Laughable except I'm not actually laughing. :evil:
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Post#179 » by Prokorov » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:56 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Durant needs to call Kyrie and ask why he wasn't out there with him tonight.

Is this guy really your friend?


of course he is his friend. which is why they care more about eachother as people. of some douchebag tried to tell me what to do with my personal health decisions id punch them right in the face.
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Post#180 » by Prokorov » Sat Mar 5, 2022 1:57 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:If i had to choose between Kyrie's dumb ass and James Harden i would have sold Kyrie out without hesitation

Kevin Durant is a fool.


With kyrie we may have won this game

with harden we lose by 40 because he is a quitter.

What Harden did is 10000 times worse then kyrie

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