Stannis wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
I can't speak to that regarding Tsai. He spoke with Kyrie the other day and apparently he isn't convinced. Can't say i blame him.
All I know is that Kyrie is not the victim here. You bring up that Kyrie is in a contract year, well maybe Kyrie should have thought about that before lighting himself on fire.
And no, I don't think Kyrie is anywhere near as awful as Farrakhan. At least i would hope to God not because despite being an idiot i never found him to be hateful until this started.
Can you tell me why you "don't blame him" (why do you believe Tsai is right in his judgement that Kyrie "isn't sorry enough")? Especially when the NBPA expressed that the demand list was excessive.
What else does Irving need to do? Does he need to get on a stage and shed some fake tears? Does he really have to get theatrical here?
He's already donated 500k of his own money. He's met with Adam Silver and Tsai. But Tsai for some reason says "no, it isn't enough".
I will say Irving is a victim here for a few reasons.
1) As far as I know, he isn't getting paid while he is sitting out.
2) He's already met most of the demands requested by his owner, including the apology and donation.
3) Historically, Irving has always been a fighter for social justice. Why he has to let a CCP supporter and a supporter of Uyghur slave labor & genocide preach to him about prejudice is beyond me.
He never went on a rant like Kayne or anything like that. It was a simple link share about a documentary.
First of all, I don't like Joe Tsai or support him. I just wanted to make that clear.
Second, I can't say I blame him if he isn't convinced because of the way Kyrie behaved when the team gave him an EASY off ramp to apologize for making a mistake and moving on. Does Kyrie's behavior during that press conference the other day look like someone who was contrite and fully understanding his actions? It didn't look like it to me. He needs to show it through his actions.
I don't think the demand list is excessive at all outside of the $500k thing. I don't think he should be forced to do that unless it's coming from a place of sincerity. But having to meet with Adam Silver, Joe Tsai, and Jewish Community leaders to have a dialogue is excessive to you? Taking a course on sensitivity training and antisemitism is excessive? Yall act like he's being forced to get on his knees and beg for his job back. He's not. He's being asked to be accountable to the team, league, and the community his actions have hurt.
Kyrie is not an innocent victim. He promoted antisemitism, that is a punishable offense. He's not a victim because he's been suspended. He still has yet to sit down with Jewish community leaders to talk...what's so unreasonable about that? Why not have dialogue and come to understanding with the people who he threw under the bus with his actions?
Joe Tsai is scum, but that doesn't give Kyrie a pass to just do whatever he wants and then be coddled by people who take antisemitism lightly. Promoting an antiemetic work on his platform which has millions of followers is a pretty big deal.
If Luka tweeted out a link to a white supremacist propaganda book that claimed that slavery was a myth, lynchings did not happen and that Black people are lazy, low IQ sex crazed degenerates, would that be okay too or nah?
Luka would be taken to the woodshed. I see no difference here with what is happening to Kyrie. You don't promote hate, period. Especially if you have a platform as large as he does.
It's been 4 years of this horsesh*t with Kyrie that has culminated with him committing an egregious offense. He brought all of that on himself.
