Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

[MrDollarBills]

2019 is just a year away. I’m not suggesting an outright fire sale, more like trading the valuable pieces that we have for picks. Do you honestly think we already have a core moving forward? If you ask me, no one is untradeable for the right picks...

You cannot build any continuity by continuously dealing for picks and young players.

Are we seriously not going to expect the same developmental losses when that happens?

What core are we keeping if we trade everyone for picks? It only makes sense if the intent is to tank in 2019. At some point, we have to atleast show we developed and created our own nucleus.

We need to be careful not to outsmart ourselves here and botch any chemistry here.


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Again, the intention is not to trade everyone. It’s trading those whose value has already peaked. At the end of the day, we have to make a decision on who to keep among DLO, LeVert, RHJ and Dinwiddie. We cannot afford to keep them all considering the cap implications. I’d rather trade one or two of them for a lottery to mid-teen pick, and bank on our development team to do what they do best.

At this point, unless we get a stud via draft or trade, no one is in indispensible.

The Nets as currently constructed have a core around the following: Russell, Dinwiddie, LeVert, Hollis-Jefferson, Allen.

who has peaked among these 5 players?

you want to just trade everyone for picks. that extends the rebuild to at least a decade. do you think the GM and coach are operating on that schedule?

i seriously think the talk about trading young guys for picks is utter delusion.

[MrDollarBills]

Would you guys be interested in our first rounder and Zizic for Dinwiddie? We have one of the toughest schedules in the league remaining, Love is out for 2 months, and the team is obvious in real disarray since IT came back, so I really think it'll be a pick in the 16-19 range by the end of the year. Also Zizic (rookie and 23rd pick in 2016) areally hasn't gotten any minutes this year (just like Cedi) because Ty Lue is a moron and I would think he'd be able to better showcase his ability in another situation, similarly to Joe Harris who didn't get enough opportunities in Cleveland.

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nah. we'll trade you Joe Harris and Dinwiddie for our 1st rd pick back and an expiring.

[LKIRNets]

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[yoyoboy]

Would you guys be interested in our first rounder and Zizic for Dinwiddie? We have one of the toughest schedules in the league remaining, Love is out for 2 months, and the team is obvious in real disarray since IT came back, so I really think it'll be a pick in the 16-19 range by the end of the year. Also Zizic (rookie and 23rd pick in 2016) areally hasn't gotten any minutes this year (just like Cedi) because Ty Lue is a moron and I would think he'd be able to better showcase his ability in another situation, similarly to Joe Harris who didn't get enough opportunities in Cleveland.

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nah. we'll trade you Joe Harris and Dinwiddie for our 1st rd pick back and an expiring.

Guess there's no deal to be made here then.

[MrDollarBills]

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Marks is going in right now. WTF.

[MrDollarBills]

Would you guys be interested in our first rounder and Zizic for Dinwiddie? We have one of the toughest schedules in the league remaining, Love is out for 2 months, and the team is obvious in real disarray since IT came back, so I really think it'll be a pick in the 16-19 range by the end of the year. Also Zizic (rookie and 23rd pick in 2016) areally hasn't gotten any minutes this year (just like Cedi) because Ty Lue is a moron and I would think he'd be able to better showcase his ability in another situation, similarly to Joe Harris who didn't get enough opportunities in Cleveland.

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nah. we'll trade you Joe Harris and Dinwiddie for our 1st rd pick back and an expiring.

Guess there's no deal to be made here then.

not really.

I'd trade you Joe Harris for your 1st rd pick.

[Paradise]

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McCaw/GS 1st for Harris. Too much? I’d love this.

[LKIRNets]

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Marks is going in right now. WTF.

If he swings that

[Prokorov]

You cannot build any continuity by continuously dealing for picks and young players.

Are we seriously not going to expect the same developmental losses when that happens?

What core are we keeping if we trade everyone for picks? It only makes sense if the intent is to tank in 2019. At some point, we have to atleast show we developed and created our own nucleus.

We need to be careful not to outsmart ourselves here and botch any chemistry here.


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Again, the intention is not to trade everyone. It’s trading those whose value has already peaked. At the end of the day, we have to make a decision on who to keep among DLO, LeVert, RHJ and Dinwiddie. We cannot afford to keep them all considering the cap implications. I’d rather trade one or two of them for a lottery to mid-teen pick, and bank on our development team to do what they do best.

At this point, unless we get a stud via draft or trade, no one is in indispensible.

The Nets as currently constructed have a core around the following: Russell, Dinwiddie, LeVert, Hollis-Jefferson, Allen.

who has peaked among these 5 players?

you want to just trade everyone for picks. that extends the rebuild to at least a decade. do you think the GM and coach are operating on that schedule?

i seriously think the talk about trading young guys for picks is utter delusion.

That core has like a 35-45 win ceiling unless DLO becomes more harden the monte ellis. and you'd be locked into that core forever.

you need to move 1 or 2 guys for picks to reset the cap. If its me id deal whomever gets the best value vs. their production.

[bud29]

So I've avoided watching much GS basketball because they always win and I hate them, but I'm looking at McCaw's stats and...What's the draw here besides being young? This season he's 24.6% from deep and has a PER of 8.6. Seems like we'd get considerably worse if we traded Harris for him, and he's a RFA this year so we might not save a whole lot of money either.

Obviously if picks get involved that changes the game a bit, but I don't see them sweetening the deal with much more than a 2nd.

[LKIRNets]

So I've avoided watching much GS basketball because they always win and I hate them, but I'm looking at McCaw's stats and...What's the draw here besides being young? This season he's 24.6% from deep and has a PER of 8.6. Seems like we'd get considerably worse if we traded Harris for him, and he's a RFA this year so we might not save a whole lot of money either.

Obviously if picks get involved that changes the game a bit, but I don't see them sweetening the deal with much more than a 2nd.

The potential in him is a 2 way 6th man.

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his potential shined in the playoffs.

Put it like this. You know how some of you gush over Frank Ntilikina? he's Golden State's version of that if he gets PT for us in Brooklyn. If this trade happens. Look no one should argue it. Watch the kid play

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[vincecarter4pres]

nah. we'll trade you Joe Harris and Dinwiddie for our 1st rd pick back and an expiring.

Guess there's no deal to be made here then.

not really.

I'd trade you Joe Harris for your 1st rd pick.

I think a fallback deal for Cleveland is going to be something along the lines of their 1st and Shump/Frye for Carroll/Harris/Acy.

If they don't pull off a big deal, or they don't use Shump and Frye as salary filler in their big deal and still have their first, this is very realistic for both sides.

[Paradise]

McCaw/Looney for Harris/Acy.


I’d attempt Jordan Bell as well but there’s no chance of that.


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[vincecarter4pres]

I'm also wondering if you don't see something along the lines of the following:

Brooklyn sends:
Dinwiddie
Carroll
Harris

Utah sends:
Hood
2018 1st round pick top 5 protected
salary filler of their choice between Rubio, Favors, Joe Johnson(sent to a contending 3rd team for a different expiring and some sort of late pick, pick going to either us and one of our 2nds sent to Utah, or just to Utah), Burks, or a 3 player combo of Thabo/Exum/Jerebko

[bud29]

So I've avoided watching much GS basketball because they always win and I hate them, but I'm looking at McCaw's stats and...What's the draw here besides being young? This season he's 24.6% from deep and has a PER of 8.6. Seems like we'd get considerably worse if we traded Harris for him, and he's a RFA this year so we might not save a whole lot of money either.

Obviously if picks get involved that changes the game a bit, but I don't see them sweetening the deal with much more than a 2nd.

The potential in him is a 2 way 6th man.

his potential shined in the playoffs.

Put it like this. You know how some of you gush over Frank Ntilikina? he's Golden State's version of that if he gets PT for us in Brooklyn. If this trade happens. Look no one should argue it. Watch the kid play

Interesting - I wonder how much he'd fetch as a RFA this offseason. I asked an acquaintance of mine (who's a huge dubs fan) about a potential McCaw deal and he said this:

"His stock was on the rise last year and he even got some Finals minutes but he's been garbage this year. It's a complete mystery but his confidence is shot. The Nets would be buying potential.

The Warriors tried to give him steady rotation minutes and he is/was the heir apparent to Iguodala (who's also been bad), but he's fumbled that opportunity badly. As a Warriors fan I'm on the fence as they really need to get young and cheap guys to take the place of their aging vets and McCaw seemed to fit the bill perfectly...he can drive to the rim, hit threes and defend... at least he used to be able to."

Maybe he needs a change of scenery - going from a high-pressure situation on an all-world team to getting consistent minutes for a non-contender could maybe help his confidence.

[vincecarter4pres]

McCaw/Looney for Harris/Acy.


I’d attempt Jordan Bell as well but there’s no chance of that.


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McCaw does very little for me, I don't get much of the reasoning behind the deal besides the age angle.

[skywalker33]

Ok, I know I'm the first person to hate on trading Dinwiddie. That said, here's something we'd probably need to consider, especially if there's a pick coming back as well.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd4pncnj

Add Mudiay to that deal


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Denver laughs and HANGS UP on that one......

[vincecarter4pres]

Ok, I know I'm the first person to hate on trading Dinwiddie. That said, here's something we'd probably need to consider, especially if there's a pick coming back as well.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd4pncnj

Add Mudiay to that deal


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Denver laughs and HANGS UP on that one......

They do? Probably only to save face that they basically dealt the best rookie in this class for Lyles and a late 1st.

[LKIRNets]

So I've avoided watching much GS basketball because they always win and I hate them, but I'm looking at McCaw's stats and...What's the draw here besides being young? This season he's 24.6% from deep and has a PER of 8.6. Seems like we'd get considerably worse if we traded Harris for him, and he's a RFA this year so we might not save a whole lot of money either.

Obviously if picks get involved that changes the game a bit, but I don't see them sweetening the deal with much more than a 2nd.

The potential in him is a 2 way 6th man.

his potential shined in the playoffs.

Put it like this. You know how some of you gush over Frank Ntilikina? he's Golden State's version of that if he gets PT for us in Brooklyn. If this trade happens. Look no one should argue it. Watch the kid play

Interesting - I wonder how much he'd fetch as a RFA this offseason. I asked an acquaintance of mine (who's a huge dubs fan) about a potential McCaw deal and he said this:

"His stock was on the rise last year and he even got some Finals minutes but he's been garbage this year. It's a complete mystery but his confidence is shot. The Nets would be buying potential.

The Warriors tried to give him steady rotation minutes and he is/was the heir apparent to Iguodala (who's also been bad), but he's fumbled that opportunity badly. As a Warriors fan I'm on the fence as they really need to get young and cheap guys to take the place of their aging vets and McCaw seemed to fit the bill perfectly...he can drive to the rim, hit threes and defend... at least he used to be able to."

Maybe he needs a change of scenery - going from a high-pressure situation on an all-world team to getting consistent minutes for a non-contender could maybe help his confidence.

Think about what's happened on that team. They bought Nick Young, he knows he's RFA after this season and they committed to him. So of course he's shot there.

[Shark]

I liked what I saw from McCaw in last year's playoffs. And I knew he was struggling this season, but I hadn't realized just how badly he was struggling.