2010 NBA Draft Thread: Nets Select Derrick Favors

[demens]

The more I'm thinking about it and reading up/watching highlights on James, I'm really starting to like that trade a lot. James brings a lot of intangibles to this team.

The thing is all Atlanta wanted was Jordan Crawford and some bling.
We could have sent them the 27th and whatever cash they got to sell the 31st and then just kept the 31st and drafted a guy like Armon Johnson, Whiteside or Terrico White.
Would have had no implications on the cap.
Just (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

Exactly, they sold the 31st pick anyway. We could have swapped picks + cash. There was zero reason to include the 31st.

Prokhorov has not yet signed a new contract with Rod Thorn, whom Wojnarowski praises for his shrewd negotiating skill.

He writes that Thorn "turned insufferable Minnesota GM David Kahn into a basket case over the Nets threatening to draft Wesley Johnson."

Clearly shrewd negotiating skills, ha. David Kahn is still spinning trying to figure out which pick he wants to give Rod Thorn along with Rubio...wait, never mind. Woj needs to get off those nuts.

[demens]

I don't think not paying for mid-2nd rounders says anything for or against his commitment to winning.

I think it certainly does. Now, instead of having our choice of who to fill out the roster with, we have to get D-leaguers or non-drafted players. Joy.

Edit: Oh, and I said skeptical, not "this guy sucks."

I think getting nothing from the 2nd round is 100% Rod Thorns doing and has nothing to do with Prokys commitment and willingness to pay for a pick. Now that the news about him retiring came out i dont see how anyone can argue that he's been doing his job half ass.

[demens]

Yeah, no matter what, one of two things went down tonight:

A) Front office incompetence

B) Owner being cheap

It's really that simple.
You can choose for yourself if you want to personally make a big deal about it, but whatever spin someone may try to put on it, one of those two things happened tonight.

Hmm, thats a though one.

[Talentfull]

Man I just hope we don't do something stupid this summer, like a sign and trade involving the 3rd pick for Amare...or even Bosh. I can just see it happening. Ugh, I'd feel much better right now if I knew for sure Thorn was going to stay on deck for a couple more years.

[vincecarter4pres]

Man I just hope we don't do something stupid this summer, like a sign and trade involving the 3rd pick for Amare...or even Bosh. I can just see it happening. Ugh, I'd feel much better right now if I knew for sure Thorn was going to stay on deck for a couple more years.

Thorn won't do something stupid like that.
He dragged out the SARS deal because Portland wanted a 1st rounder for him and he was only willing to give up a 2nd. IIRC the final outcome was right in the middle, two second rounders, until SARS failed his physical that is. Then Sacto signed him outright and he couldn't even hack it his second year into that deal. Thorn is smarter then some realize...

[vincecarter4pres]

Oh, yeah, been meaning to say this...
A big, fat, Dom Deluise sized LOL at the Knicks for taking two guys projected to be undrafted with their picks. I actually like Rautins too, but I think he could have been signed outright.

[mikhailjordan]

I don't get why the Knicks didn't go big with someone like Alabi... Or at least they should have taken their home boy Lance Stephenson, he's a headcase but he has the potential to become an actual NBA player unlike Rautins and Fields...

[Jersey Generals]

He dragged out the SARS deal because Portland wanted a 1st rounder for him and he was only willing to give up a 2nd....

Who?

[vincecarter4pres]

He dragged out the SARS deal because Portland wanted a 1st rounder for him and he was only willing to give up a 2nd....

Who?

Shareef Abdur Rahim. I always add an S onto the end, cause, well I do.

[vincecarter4pres]

LOL, now they're charging for the Summer League Broadband. Last year they just had certain games live streaming, but it was completely free.
The NBA is a whore who knows no limits.

[mikhailjordan]

There are 2-3 different summer leagues I believe the one you have to pay for is the Vegas summer league, the Nets are likely competing in the Orlando Summer League again (which is free to watch).

[Jersey Generals]

Shareef Abdur Rahim. I always add an S onto the end, cause, well I do.

That extra s killed me, though. I was racking my mind trying to figure out who it was.

[mikhailjordan]

So looking back real quick... The Blazers gave up the #27 and #33 pick for the #25 pick in 2008... Darrell Arthur and Joey Dorsey for Nicolas Batum... Just throwing that out there...

[demens]

So looking back real quick... The Blazers gave up the #27 and #33 pick for the #25 pick in 2008... Darrell Arthur and Joey Dorsey for Nicolas Batum... Just throwing that out there...

Are you trying to compare that move to what Thorn did this draft? Its close from an outside point of view. But when you consider that Pritch got the 27th pick (Arthur) from the Hornets that day for cash in the 1st place, it looks a bit different. He basically turned #33 (Dorsey) + Cash into #25 (Nic Batum). Thorn could have done something just like that, but thats the difference between him and Pritch. Can't really judge how the player turns out with James just yet, but Blazers made the better moves. Considering Thorns drafting, i'd put a lot of money down that James doesn't come close to Batum as a player.

[mikhailjordan]

I have no clue what you're trying to get at... So what if he bought the pick? The value of a late first and an early second isn't a top 15 pick. It's mid 20's. That's all I was getting at.

The Nets are trying to build a financially sustainable winner, senselessly throwing money away is Knicks-like let's hope the Nets never reach that level of desperation.

On a side note can you also do me a favor and list all of the great draft picks by Pritchard? From what I can see while KP might make shrewd moves that lead to higher draft selections in the future his ACTUAL PICKS with those selections have led to more busts than booms.

[demens]

I have no clue what you're trying to get at... So what if he bought the pick? The value of a late first and an early second isn't a top 15 pick. It's mid 20's. That's all I was getting at.

The Nets are trying to build a financially sustainable winner, senselessly throwing money away is Knicks-like let's hope the Nets never reach that level of desperation.

On a side note can you also do me a favor and list all of the great draft picks by Pritchard? From what I can see while KP might make shrewd moves that lead to higher draft selections in the future his ACTUAL PICKS with those selections have led to more busts than booms.

You lost me with that 1st point. I thought you were comparing Pritchs move to Thorns move in this draft. What do top 15 picks and their value have to do with it?

Ha, you're talking to me about the Knicks. All this bull about 2 max is exactly like the Knicks. Buying a 2nd round pick is not senselessly throwing money away. 2nd round picks can be deadly in the right persons hands, especially when you have 2 top 20 centers falling into the 2nd round. How is buying a pick desperation?

ACTUAL PICKS? Does it matter what the actual picks are when at the end of the draft you have LaMarcus Aldrige, Brandon Roy, Greg Oden, and Jerred Bayless, pretty ok players imo. I also see no reason not to add Batum, Fernandez and Rodriguez to that list. If you look at Rod Thorns best draft for the Nets his actual pick was Eddie Griffin, should we hold that against him?

[jeff1624]

I have no clue what you're trying to get at... So what if he bought the pick? The value of a late first and an early second isn't a top 15 pick. It's mid 20's. That's all I was getting at.

The Nets are trying to build a financially sustainable winner, senselessly throwing money away is Knicks-like let's hope the Nets never reach that level of desperation.

On a side note can you also do me a favor and list all of the great draft picks by Pritchard? From what I can see while KP might make shrewd moves that lead to higher draft selections in the future his ACTUAL PICKS with those selections have led to more busts than booms.

You lost me with that 1st point. I thought you were comparing Pritchs move to Thorns move in this draft. What do top 15 picks and their value have to do with it?

Ha, you're talking to me about the Knicks. All this bull about 2 max is exactly like the Knicks. Buying a 2nd round pick is not senselessly throwing money away. 2nd round picks can be deadly in the right persons hands, especially when you have 2 top 20 centers falling into the 2nd round. How is buying a pick desperation?

ACTUAL PICKS? Does it matter what the actual picks are when at the end of the draft you have LaMarcus Aldrige, Brandon Roy, Greg Oden, and Jerred Bayless, pretty ok players imo. I also see no reason not to add Batum, Fernandez and Rodriguez to that list. If you look at Rod Thorns best draft for the Nets his actual pick was Eddie Griffin, should we hold that against him?

I have no interest in getting involved but I just wanted to say that Thorn never wanted Eddie Griffin, he just drafted him because he knew Houston wanted him. Eddie Griffin was never going to be a Net even though we did draft him, so it's irrelevant to the conversation AND the point force... oops I mean mikhailjordan wanted to make.

[Jersey Generals]

I have no interest in getting involved but I just wanted to say that Thorn never wanted Eddie Griffin, he just drafted him because he knew Houston wanted him. Eddie Griffin was never going to be a Net even though we did draft him, so it's irrelevant to the conversation AND the point force... oops I mean mikhailjordan wanted to make.

Well, it kind of is relevant to the point he was trying to make, I just don't think Demens worded it correctly.

[demens]

I have no interest in getting involved but I just wanted to say that Thorn never wanted Eddie Griffin, he just drafted him because he knew Houston wanted him. Eddie Griffin was never going to be a Net even though we did draft him, so it's irrelevant to the conversation AND the point force... oops I mean mikhailjordan wanted to make.

Why is it irrelevant. We are discussing what moves Pritchard has made for Portland. mikhail wants to make a distinction between who he actually drafted and who the blazers ended up having on their team at the end of the night. Thorn actually drafted Eddie Griffin, the rest is irrelevant. So he drafted him for Houston and had no intention of keeping him? Well how do you know that Pritchad had intentions of keeping Foye or Ty Thomas and didn't draft them to make moves with the teams he did.

[mikhailjordan]

Kevin Pritchard has done a good job of parlaying single draft picks into multiple future draft picks. But when those draft picks are actually used and players are actually drafted and kept... Kevin Pritchard is no better than your average GM at selecting players who are steals / who outperform their draft position.

Pritchard has proven capable of trading his team into good draft position, but his ability to make good draft choices is mediocre.

Do you care to dispute that statement demens?

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@ Jeff - I do believe that the NETS will be a FORCE to be reckoned with in the next few years.