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Post#181 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:30 pm

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Paradise wrote:So, N is reporting that IF Danny Ferry is hired. He would retain most of Billy's staff and would ultimately have the control to bring Billy King back in some assistant role.

No thanks. I am a huge supporter of bringing Danny Ferry here after his terrific stint in Atlanta but the FO needs an overhaul. The last thing we need is a GM who wants to bring back his bestie on top of the reputation he created from the Loul Deng situation. That's James Dolan/Isisah Thomas 2.0. right there. I don't even want Billy King to be in charge of running the Long Island Nets.

I think I've come to terms with the reality we will hire Bryan Colangelo. He's clearly not perfect but he is a substantial upgrade to Billy King.



im ok if king is like a draft scout or consultant and nothing more than that. where are you reading danny ferry wants to bring back billy king? the only thing i dont like is colangelo does love european players more which is more risky. nets value relations around the league so ferry reputation may be damaged from the luol deng situation and we really need a guy with credibility and colangelo has more of that than ferry who is trying to get back into the league after reading those comments and the hatred he unfairly got.


Colangelo coveting Euros is a bit risky considering how medicore the European talent that we've had waltz through here have looked. At the same time, with a lack of picks, doing more overseas scouting is an option we can't pass up.
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Post#182 » by Paradise » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:49 pm

Colangelo vs Ferry in Euro Scouting:

Ferry:

- Selected Dennis Schroeder
- Selected Raul Neto (traded him to Utah)
- Signed Gustavo Ayon
- Signed Pero Antic
- Selected Walter Tavares


Colangelo:

- Selected Andrea Bargnani
- Signed Anthony Parker
- Signed Jorge Garbajosa
- Signed Rasho Nesterovic
- Signed Linas Klezia
- Selected Jonas Valenciunas

BC has the edge here. The talent level may look below average on paper (except for Jonas) but at the time those names were quality euro talent. Comes down to scouting. Denver is killing it lately with Nikola Jokic, Joffey Lauvergne, Jusef Nurkic.
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Post#183 » by jbeachboy » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:02 pm

net income reported the nets will not be hiring kenny atkinson for coach. yeah ferry took advantage of billy king by unloading joe johnson to us but give him credit for hiring budenholzer and building that hawks team. im cool with either colangelo or ferry. im also ok with thibs, monty williams, or mark jackson as third choice.
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Post#184 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:36 pm

No to Mark Jackson! hell no. Another old school mentality coach is not what we need. We need someone that can be shown statistical data and factor that into line ups and decision making. He's not going to do that, that guy a few weeks back blamed Steph Curry for US kids now wanting to all shoot the 3 ball. no!!
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Post#185 » by shakendfries » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:31 am

Paradise wrote:Colangelo vs Ferry in Euro Scouting:

Ferry:

- Selected Dennis Schroeder
- Selected Raul Neto (traded him to Utah)
- Signed Gustavo Ayon
- Signed Pero Antic
- Selected Walter Tavares


Colangelo:

- Selected Andrea Bargnani
- Signed Anthony Parker
- Signed Jorge Garbajosa
- Signed Rasho Nesterovic
- Signed Linas Klezia
- Selected Jonas Valenciunas

BC has the edge here. The talent level may look below average on paper (except for Jonas) but at the time those names were quality euro talent. Comes down to scouting. Denver is killing it lately with Nikola Jokic, Joffey Lauvergne, Jusef Nurkic.


What stands out to me about Ferry is his ability to build around what a team already has. I'm not even gonna credit him for Lebron, because he had Lebron, but in Atlanta he built an ECF powerhouse around Teague/Horford - they're not exactly Durant/Westbrook. Colangelo's tenure in Toronto is a huge indictment to me considering how much better the Lowry/DeRozan combo has worked without Gay/Bargnani.

At the end of the day they both have their faults. It sounds like the FO has all but decided on a HC before hiring a GM, so I wouldn't exactly be too confident one way or another.
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Post#186 » by jbeachboy » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:41 am

MrDollarBills wrote:No to Mark Jackson! hell no. Another old school mentality coach is not what we need. We need someone that can be shown statistical data and factor that into line ups and decision making. He's not going to do that, that guy a few weeks back blamed Steph Curry for US kids now wanting to all shoot the 3 ball. no!!




did mark jackson deserve any credit for getting golden state to play defense? does he believe in analytics? if he doesnt then cross him off the list if he wont be open to analytics. mark jackson would be my last option if we got rejected by the others.
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Post#187 » by jbeachboy » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:43 am

i dont mind ferry or colangelo but im concerned about danny ferry and how he left atlanta will become a major distraction by media and other things.
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Post#188 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:28 am

shakendfries wrote:At the end of the day they both have their faults. It sounds like the FO has all but decided on a HC before hiring a GM, so I wouldn't exactly be too confident one way or another.

Idk if that's the case.

—We've heard that they're strongly pursuing Thibs. Does that mean that he's willing to come on board but the Nets are just waiting for a GM?
—Does this mean that he has rejected the Nets and they're still trying to woo him while also conducting a GM search?
—Or maybe you're right and they have basically come to a handshake deal, but the media doesn't know about the latest developments.

We'll have to wait and see what has really happened.

What's interesting though is that if they actually hire a coach now, I guess he'd come now with still roughly 50% of the season left. But at the same time, it would seem really weird for a new coach with their own way of doing things to come in and try to install their system so late in the year.
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Post#189 » by jbeachboy » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:48 pm

who would you prefer if nets cant hire thibs?
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Post#190 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:40 am

jbeachboy wrote:who would you prefer if nets cant hire thibs?


calapari
Van Gundy
Shaka Smart
monty williams

i think thats all irrelevant until we find a GM. to me that needs to happen first. i dont want a coach that the GM didnt hand pick and have a ton of input into.

i also hope we take our time, wait until the offseason when we have alot more options to work with
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Post#191 » by Ror1997 » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:20 pm

How would you guys feel about Becky Hammon?
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Post#192 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:08 pm

Ror1997 wrote:How would you guys feel about Becky Hammon?


I'm not averse to it at all especially with her working under Coach Pop. If Popovich hired her on his staff, she knows her stuff.

Also, I've seen too many idiots land head coaching jobs to be averse to a woman who played professional basketball at a high level and is currently an assistant under the league's top coach to say that she shouldn't get a chance.

I''ll also say this, I used to watch her when she played for the Liberty...if Brook Lopez had her on court aggressiveness he'd be an A Tier player right now.
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Post#193 » by Paradise » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:44 pm

Ror1997 wrote:How would you guys feel about Becky Hammon?

Nope. She could turn out to be a nice coach but that's an extremely risky hire right now.
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Post#194 » by Ror1997 » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:06 pm

I think she will be a good headcoach, I just don't know if NYC is the place to start
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Post#195 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:30 pm

Ror1997 wrote:How would you guys feel about Becky Hammon?


id be 100% onboard with it. as long as our GM was 100% onboard with it
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Post#196 » by Zachbretton » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:31 am

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Ror1997 wrote:How would you guys feel about Becky Hammon?


id be 100% onboard with it. as long as our GM was 100% onboard with it


I think this is the key thinking. We need a GM with a focus and a goal in hand. If they determine that Becky Hammon, a student of Pop now, is the proper coach for the situation. Then yes, sure thing, I can see it.

There are some options for coach I'm completely against, but she's totally not one of them.

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Post#197 » by Keith Van Horn » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:58 pm

how about this one -- Geno Auriemma?

on a recent Center Stage interview he said he would love to coach in the mens pros at some point. I don't know about being a HC, but maybe an assistant?

My top guys for HC now are Thibs and Walton.

I could see Thibs getting the job and bringing in Williams too (don't they work together with Team USA?), and then a few other new numbers guys.
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Post#198 » by Keith Van Horn » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:00 pm

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Prokorov wrote:
Ror1997 wrote:How would you guys feel about Becky Hammon?


id be 100% onboard with it. as long as our GM was 100% onboard with it


I think this is the key thinking. We need a GM with a focus and a goal in hand. If they determine that Becky Hammon, a student of Pop now, is the proper coach for the situation. Then yes, sure thing, I can see it.

There are some options for coach I'm completely against, but she's totally not one of them.

First step is the GM

agreed, GM has got to come first.

and from what's been said in the media, it's either Ferry or Colangelo. Guys with good track records, which is what we need. Honestly the more I hear some of you guys talk about him the more I like Ferry. Yeah he has some baggage but it's not like Billy King "franchise destroying" baggage.
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Post#199 » by Prokorov » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:53 pm

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Zachbretton wrote:
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id be 100% onboard with it. as long as our GM was 100% onboard with it


I think this is the key thinking. We need a GM with a focus and a goal in hand. If they determine that Becky Hammon, a student of Pop now, is the proper coach for the situation. Then yes, sure thing, I can see it.

There are some options for coach I'm completely against, but she's totally not one of them.

First step is the GM

agreed, GM has got to come first.

and from what's been said in the media, it's either Ferry or Colangelo. Guys with good track records, which is what we need. Honestly the more I hear some of you guys talk about him the more I like Ferry. Yeah he has some baggage but it's not like Billy King "franchise destroying" baggage.


as long as that new GM's baggage isnt "running several franchises into the ground" im ok with some baggage.

id be fine with ferry or colagello. although i wouldnt jump to say those are favorites. i think those names get mentioned, cause they are currently not employed in the NBA. same with thibs and cal. i dont think you are going to see names thrown around of GMs who are currently employed. thats a bad look.

i think once the season ends, we will have a better idea who are top candidates are
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Post#200 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:41 pm

I'm down with Walton if we're going young hire as far as coaching is concerned. Talent level of his team aside, Walton's Basketball IQ is so legit that i knew he'd be coaching one day. Lots of respect for that kid as a player and he's held the ship steady for Steve Kerr.
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