2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread

[Prokorov]

I think Sacramento isn't bad enough on paper to land at #1 but you never know. Atlanta's roster looks horrible.

We need these two things to fall in our favor:

a) we need to land within the top 10. top 8 is most desirable.

b) Denver must miss the playoffs...which isn't a sure bet on either. they are an excellent ball club with talent all across the board. But the West is a slaughter house with The Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Jazz, Spurs, Lakers, and Pelicans all featuring top tier talent. The last playoff spot comes down to Denver and Portland. If Dame and CJ miss the playoffs I'll be stunned.

The above two things happening mean that we will have two lottery picks.

What I'm going to say is going to hurt, but lets just say that Caris LeVert has a breakout season in year 3. Seems probable with how he has trended so far.

You attach two lottery picks to 3rd year LeVert I think we can snake our way up to get one of those Duke kids.

I'd really prefer not to use both picks to move up if we attach LeVert to the deal but Barrett and Williamson look like flat out studs.

If we're ever going to get our cornerstone to build this team for real, its within the next 12 months.

we wont need to trade up... we should organically be top 5 or so

[shakendfries]

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

[MrDollarBills]

We need a top 5 pick. Williamson has elite level athleticism and is built like a monster truck.

[kamaze]

I think Sacramento isn't bad enough on paper to land at #1 but you never know. Atlanta's roster looks horrible.

We need these two things to fall in our favor:

a) we need to land within the top 10. top 8 is most desirable.

b) Denver must miss the playoffs...which isn't a sure bet on either. they are an excellent ball club with talent all across the board. But the West is a slaughter house with The Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Jazz, Spurs, Lakers, and Pelicans all featuring top tier talent. The last playoff spot comes down to Denver and Portland. If Dame and CJ miss the playoffs I'll be stunned.

The above two things happening mean that we will have two lottery picks.

What I'm going to say is going to hurt, but lets just say that Caris LeVert has a breakout season in year 3. Seems probable with how he has trended so far.

You attach two lottery picks to 3rd year LeVert I think we can snake our way up to get one of those Duke kids.

I'd really prefer not to use both picks to move up if we attach LeVert to the deal but Barrett and Williamson look like flat out studs.

If we're ever going to get our cornerstone to build this team for real, its within the next 12 months.

we wont need to trade up... we should organically be top 5 or so

They draft good there's no need to trade up Mark's will find gems wherever he picks.

[jbeachboy]

its very difficult to trade up in an nba draft. most teams wont do it.

[shakendfries]

its very difficult to trade up in an nba draft. most teams wont do it.

the 76ers & Mavs did


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app

[shakendfries]

Watch on YouTube

Zion is 6'6.5'' & 270
Cam is 6'8''

[MrDollarBills]

I would put Williamson at SF on the Nets IDGAF

[NyCeEvO]

Read on Twitter

He was a prospect I wanted the Nets to get last year that family is injury plagued. Bri Porter, Jontay and Michael's sister, retired from basketball before last season at Missouri after suffering her fifth ACL tear. Cierra, another sister who played at Missouri, medically retired in June -- with one year of eligibility left -- because of ongoing knee problems.

He decided to return to the Tigers despite being projected as a late-first-round pick.

That's terrible. It's amazing to have one, let alone four, athletically gifted children who are good enough to play D1 sports. It must be so disheartening to see each one of them suffer traumatic injury after traumatic injury. I hope they took their studies seriously enough so they have other careers to fall back on.

[NyCeEvO]

its very difficult to trade up in an nba draft. most teams wont do it.

I view it more as being rare than difficult, especially the higher up you go in the draft.

It goes without saying that top lottery draft picks are always valuable, no matter how weak or strong the draft is. Therefore, teams should expect to give up good assets (i.e. established stars, talented young players, other good draft picks, or some combination of the aforementioned) in order to obtain high draft picks.

Teams with high picks are usually the worst teams in the league. Unless a team is blown away by an offer, why would a bad team easily give up their own right to choose a player from the top tier of eligible draftees whom they can almost always keep for 7 seasons if the teams chooses to do so?

Since bad teams are trying to obtain players of the caliber that good teams already possess, the priorities of those two are often quite different. Therefore, it's rare for a team with an allstar to give up such a player for a pick that is not certain to become as good as the allstar they already have.

It's way more common for bad teams to trade with other bad teams, since they have similar priorities and tend to only differ in how they value prospects they expect to be available when they draft. Since Fultz was considered the #1 overall talent but Boston valued Tatum more, the Celtics were able to swap with Sixers and drop down from #1 to #3. The Hawks swapped Doncic for Trae Young as each side believed they got the better top prospect.

It's only near impossible for a bad team to trade up when the top 1-3 players are viewed as being head and shoulders above the rest of the players in the lottery. I don't think anyone in this draft has so few weaknesses in their game that they will separate themselves from the rest of the field.

IMO, if the Nets have the #5 pick but really valued the #1 pick, they could trade up unless each team above the Nets is very much in love with the player available at their respective draft slot.

[vincecarter4pres]

I'm not trading a package like LeVert(assuming a continued sick breakout with remaining ceiling), a pick like 7th and a pick like a 14th for almost anything, unless you're telling me the pick we're landing is a complete and undeniable generational talent like a Durant or Harden or Anthony Davis level prospect, etc.

Not with the way this regime drafts, not if Caris is looking that good, not with some of the superstars who will soon be available in trade.

Like I'm not good with trading all that value, all that actual on court talent, all those shots at top 25 players just for one possible top 25 player.

This needs to be a serious prospect who usually wouldn't even be available and you just bowl over a mediocre GM like Vlade with a crazy on paper offer like that.

[shakendfries]

I'm not trading a package like LeVert(assuming a continued sick breakout with remaining ceiling), a pick like 7th and a pick like a 14th for almost anything, unless you're telling me the pick we're landing is a complete and undeniable generational talent like a Durant or Harden or Anthony Davis level prospect, etc.

Not with the way this regime drafts, not if Caris is looking that good, not with some of the superstars who will soon be available in trade.

Like I'm not good with trading all that value, all that actual on court talent, all those shots at top 25 players just for one possible top 25 player.

This needs to be a serious prospect who usually wouldn't even be available and you just bowl over a mediocre GM like Vlade with a crazy on paper offer like that.

Who’s tryna trade LeVert Crabbe + Din + Denver is the new Hump, Brooks, & a pick


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app

[vincecarter4pres]

I'm not trading a package like LeVert(assuming a continued sick breakout with remaining ceiling), a pick like 7th and a pick like a 14th for almost anything, unless you're telling me the pick we're landing is a complete and undeniable generational talent like a Durant or Harden or Anthony Davis level prospect, etc.

Not with the way this regime drafts, not if Caris is looking that good, not with some of the superstars who will soon be available in trade.

Like I'm not good with trading all that value, all that actual on court talent, all those shots at top 25 players just for one possible top 25 player.

This needs to be a serious prospect who usually wouldn't even be available and you just bowl over a mediocre GM like Vlade with a crazy on paper offer like that.

Who’s tryna trade LeVert Crabbe + Din + Denver is the new Hump, Brooks, & a pick


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app

|
|
|
V

I think Sacramento isn't bad enough on paper to land at #1 but you never know. Atlanta's roster looks horrible.

We need these two things to fall in our favor:

a) we need to land within the top 10. top 8 is most desirable.

b) Denver must miss the playoffs...which isn't a sure bet on either. they are an excellent ball club with talent all across the board. But the West is a slaughter house with The Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Jazz, Spurs, Lakers, and Pelicans all featuring top tier talent. The last playoff spot comes down to Denver and Portland. If Dame and CJ miss the playoffs I'll be stunned.

The above two things happening mean that we will have two lottery picks.

What I'm going to say is going to hurt, but lets just say that Caris LeVert has a breakout season in year 3. Seems probable with how he has trended so far.

You attach two lottery picks to 3rd year LeVert I think we can snake our way up to get one of those Duke kids.

I'd really prefer not to use both picks to move up if we attach LeVert to the deal but Barrett and Williamson look like flat out studs.

If we're ever going to get our cornerstone to build this team for real, its within the next 12 months.

Is this post just really old? I saw it quoted by Prok just a day or 2 ago.

edit: It's from very late August. Still though...

[MrDollarBills]

Denver is NOT missing the playoffs

and also, LeVert struggled tonight after the scouting report got put on him. his scoring has decreased over the last two games.

[shakendfries]

I feel like the context of highlights can get lost without complete footage. The team Duke was facing was terrible competition and of course every one of the prospects were gonna have some good highlights. ZIon did flex on someone half his size for christs sake

RJ Barrett looked like the player everyone recognized as being the best in the gym for Duke. He dropped 17/22 Duke points in 7mins. Zion has elite Blake Griffin athleticism. Cam deferred early, but has potential to eventually become the most well rounded of the group.

Watch on YouTube

I want to see how these players respond to the challenges WV and UVA are gonna pose once the scouting report is out and the defenses adjust to each player's strengths/weaknesses

[shakendfries]

Watch on YouTube

I feel like we might not land with one of the Duke 3, but we might land with the PG who succeeds Dlo & I'm cool with that. I trust whoever Marks is gonna draft at this point. A player like Keldon Johnson might be a better fit next to Caris

Watch on YouTube

[MrDollarBills]

HM. PG13 didn't want any more of that smoke after he caught that first banger. On the 2nd dunk he knew better.

Tatum is racking up a hit list quite early in his career. First Lebron and now Paul George. Who's next to feel the pain?

[vincecarter4pres]

Can't wait to see Keldon Johnson in real college games. One of my favorite prospects to watch in that mid lottery to mid first range.

[shakendfries]

I'm not trading a package like LeVert(assuming a continued sick breakout with remaining ceiling), a pick like 7th and a pick like a 14th for almost anything, unless you're telling me the pick we're landing is a complete and undeniable generational talent like a Durant or Harden or Anthony Davis level prospect, etc.

Not with the way this regime drafts, not if Caris is looking that good, not with some of the superstars who will soon be available in trade.

Like I'm not good with trading all that value, all that actual on court talent, all those shots at top 25 players just for one possible top 25 player.

This needs to be a serious prospect who usually wouldn't even be available and you just bowl over a mediocre GM like Vlade with a crazy on paper offer like that.

Who’s tryna trade LeVert Crabbe + Din + Denver is the new Hump, Brooks, & a pick


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app

|
|
|
V

I think Sacramento isn't bad enough on paper to land at #1 but you never know. Atlanta's roster looks horrible.

We need these two things to fall in our favor:

a) we need to land within the top 10. top 8 is most desirable.

b) Denver must miss the playoffs...which isn't a sure bet on either. they are an excellent ball club with talent all across the board. But the West is a slaughter house with The Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Jazz, Spurs, Lakers, and Pelicans all featuring top tier talent. The last playoff spot comes down to Denver and Portland. If Dame and CJ miss the playoffs I'll be stunned.

The above two things happening mean that we will have two lottery picks.

What I'm going to say is going to hurt, but lets just say that Caris LeVert has a breakout season in year 3. Seems probable with how he has trended so far.

You attach two lottery picks to 3rd year LeVert I think we can snake our way up to get one of those Duke kids.

I'd really prefer not to use both picks to move up if we attach LeVert to the deal but Barrett and Williamson look like flat out studs.

If we're ever going to get our cornerstone to build this team for real, its within the next 12 months.

Is this post just really old? I saw it quoted by Prok just a day or 2 ago.

edit: It's from very late August. Still though...

Remember in 2014 when Andrew Wiggins was compared to Kobe? Rembmer when GMs wanted to build their teams around Towns? 4 years later and their flaws are exactly the same as when they were drafted.

Watch on YouTube

This is the most alarming and embarrassing basketball performance I've seen since Roy Hibbert forgot how to play

I'm pumping the brakes on the Duke hype machine. Canadian players are always overhyped (Maple Jordan). Zion's biggest strength is bowling players over, but he's 6'6'' so he'll be most successful against smaller opponents. We haven't seen enough of Reddish to know what to expect.

[MrDollarBills]

That look of frustration by Derrick Rose was telling.

Towns has the defensive IQ of a sloth. Some of those plays where stunningly bad, and his aversion to any kind of physicality for someone of that size is crazy.

Butler was wrong for his behavior. However, he has every right to not want to play with KAT. You're not winning with a dude who plays like that.