2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[Prokorov]

What if I told you the Nets would land a top 3 pick for Brook Lopez?



What if I told you the Trailblazers will dump Allen Crabbe to the Nets for Skil & Booker?

What if I told you that the mentorship of Russel & LeVert by Lin & Reddick will work out a lot better than the over-hyped 76ers rookies toiling about?

What if I told you the Nets would still have enough cap flexibility to sign Joe Ingles?

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What if I told you the Panda's friend, is actually Morpheous???

if the nets trade for crabbe im going to vomit. to me he is one of if not the worst contracts in the league and a complete garbage player. i want no part of him

[Prokorov]

for whatever money the Nets throwing at JJ, I'd like the money to be re-allocated to sign Joe Ingles

i dont get it... people dont want reddick because he is 31 and would send a young guy to the bench, but want ingles who is old and would send a young player to the bench???

[Prokorov]

Any potential salary dump with the blazers isn't coming until later in the summer. Teams who're intending to cut salary because its too high rather than trying to create room have to rush to make a deal.

i dont tihnk a dump happens till the deadline. if its tax motivated makes sense to wait as cap for the tax line isnt calculated until the end of the season

[MrDollarBills]

Reddict is too expensive and his defense also below standard. We already traded Russell which with no defense , if we trade another sg with no defense ,the team will suck again next season. Net's problem is all about defense last season.

Now Mozgoz"s defense is not good , rebound not good. Lin's defense was great before injury, but after injury he was not great again. And after i saw the highlight of Russell"s defense, i am worrying about our defense next season.

Lin's D wasn't as good as before post-injury, but I think it's mainly cuz those were meaningless games and he didn't want to hurt the hammy again (which would be disastrous) rather than any structural problems.

Disagree. Lin played with max effort on both ends. The guy didn't take one game off. He may not have been great, but I will take effort regardless of the end result. Means that he gives a damn.

[Prokorov]

We can always find bigs. Finding sharpshooting is a lot harder. There's a short list of guys who shoot near a 45% from three.

1. Redick
2. Ingles
3. Crabbe


Btw, I have a gut feeling we will land Tyson Chandler from Phoenix in a salary dump deal.

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to be even more specific its even hard to find guys who shoot 45% from three who also create space.

Reddick does it on 6 attempts a game and does it off screens, off the ball, on the ball, off the dribble.

Crabbe does it strictly catch and shoot.

crabbe, despite being outstanding percentage wise doesnt create much space. you can help off him because he is easily run off the 3 point line. he wont hurt you putting in on the floor and isnt a threat to hurt you much after you make him dribble then pick it up and shoot it.

reddick creates elite spacing. crabbe barely.

[Prokorov]

I want a either a future first or Bender in a deal for Chandler.

I'd take the future first (double entendre)

cant see chandler with mozgov and allen here

[MrDollarBills]

I want a either a future first or Bender in a deal for Chandler.

I'd take the future first (double entendre)

cant see chandler with mozgov and allen here

I don't think we need to tie up a ton of money at center.

[Prokorov]

Assuming Porter isn't an option, I'd be okay taking a stab at Shabazz Muhammad or Tony Snell.

Neither is a true game changer, but they've both got chances to be serviceable starters and there's some untapped upside that could cause them to outperform their contract (and become bigger trade assets down the road).

i like snell at 12M or so other wise hard pass

i dont like shabazz if he paid me 12M. beyond hard pass

[13th Man]

if the nets trade for crabbe im going to vomit. to me he is one of if not the worst contracts in the league and a complete garbage player. i want no part of him

I'm a bit surprised, exactly 1 year ago you guys were all clamoring for him and Tyler Johnson.

[TinmanZBoy]

for whatever money the Nets throwing at JJ, I'd like the money to be re-allocated to sign Joe Ingles

i dont get it... people dont want reddick because he is 31 and would send a young guy to the bench, but want ingles who is old and would send a young player to the bench???

you want two-way players as many as possible... Ingles does everything well... JJ is good for your spacing, but if he can't defend in a good level, how can you put him in a lineup already is lack of good defensive players...

[Prokorov]

Anyone else want to help Bos land Hayward and George by taking on Jae Crowder so they have enough cap space to sign Hayward. It's a crazy deal but they need to dump Smart or Crowder.

Crowder would be a nice piece at SF and he's only 26. It would help create a super team in Bos but it helps us. They wouldn't care since they'd be giving our pick to INDY most likely so they can help us along the way.

boston is going to be an elite team for a long time no matter what. they are already a young 50+ win team who just added tatum and still have tons of assets and a great GM

us "helping them" do anything makes it sound like they woudlnt figure it out some other way

chasing sunk costs or holding grudges or worry about other teams is a bad GM move. make the move that makes you better.

id for sure take smart or crowder. both young to fit our timeline. both gritty players who defend

[Prokorov]

if the nets trade for crabbe im going to vomit. to me he is one of if not the worst contracts in the league and a complete garbage player. i want no part of him

I'm a bit surprised, exactly 1 year ago you guys were all clamoring for him and Tyler Johnson.

i didnt want crabbe or bazemore... i just said if we DO want them we'd have to overpay.

i did want tyler johnson.

crabbe is a trash 1 way player, as bad as skil/bogs on defense, and even as a 3 point shooter is catch and shoot only.

and portland fans think he is lazy

noooooo thanks

[MrDollarBills]

Anyone else want to help Bos land Hayward and George by taking on Jae Crowder so they have enough cap space to sign Hayward. It's a crazy deal but they need to dump Smart or Crowder.

Crowder would be a nice piece at SF and he's only 26. It would help create a super team in Bos but it helps us. They wouldn't care since they'd be giving our pick to INDY most likely so they can help us along the way.

boston is going to be an elite team for a long time no matter what. they are already a young 50+ win team who just added tatum and still have tons of assets and a great GM

us "helping them" do anything makes it sound like they woudlnt figure it out some other way

chasing sunk costs or holding grudges or worry about other teams is a bad GM move. make the move that makes you better.

id for sure take smart or crowder. both young to fit our timeline. both gritty players who defend

If Danny Ainge offers us Jae Crowder in a salary dump deal i'd collapse from joy. That would be a coup.

[Prokorov]

for whatever money the Nets throwing at JJ, I'd like the money to be re-allocated to sign Joe Ingles

i dont get it... people dont want reddick because he is 31 and would send a young guy to the bench, but want ingles who is old and would send a young player to the bench???

you want two-way players as many as possible... Ingles does everything well... JJ is good for your spacing, but if he can't defend in a good level, how can you put him in a lineup already is lack of good defensive players...

Lin, Levert, and RHJ are all plus defenders. Mozgov is passable and allen has potential. i can live with reddick in between those guys when he creates such enormous elite spacing. and with RHJ/Allen/Mozgov/Booker i want that elite spacing

[Karate Diop]

Assuming Porter isn't an option, I'd be okay taking a stab at Shabazz Muhammad or Tony Snell.

Neither is a true game changer, but they've both got chances to be serviceable starters and there's some untapped upside that could cause them to outperform their contract (and become bigger trade assets down the road).

i like snell at 12M or so other wise hard pass

i dont like shabazz if he paid me 12M. beyond hard pass

Shabazz isn't the greatest but he seems to have developed an understanding of what his role in the NBA is. I think as a stopgap you could do worse, as long as you don't break the bank for him he could be a filler starter and then transition to useful bench player once an appropriate starting level player is acquired.

[MrDollarBills]

if the nets trade for crabbe im going to vomit. to me he is one of if not the worst contracts in the league and a complete garbage player. i want no part of him

I'm a bit surprised, exactly 1 year ago you guys were all clamoring for him and Tyler Johnson.

i didnt want crabbe or bazemore... i just said if we DO want them we'd have to overpay.

i did want tyler johnson.

crabbe is a trash 1 way player, as bad as skil/bogs on defense, and even as a 3 point shooter is catch and shoot only.

and portland fans think he is lazy

noooooo thanks

he's lazy because he probably smokes a ton of weed out there in Oregon. lord knows i would

[MrDollarBills]

i dont get it... people dont want reddick because he is 31 and would send a young guy to the bench, but want ingles who is old and would send a young player to the bench???

you want two-way players as many as possible... Ingles does everything well... JJ is good for your spacing, but if he can't defend in a good level, how can you put him in a lineup already is lack of good defensive players...

Lin, Levert, and RHJ are all plus defenders. Mozgov is passable and allen has potential. i can live with reddick in between those guys when he creates such enormous elite spacing. and with RHJ/Allen/Mozgov/Booker i want that elite spacing

I personally want Russell starting. Reddick, if he really is going to come here, isn't someone i'd turn away though.

I'll be fine with whatever happens. I trust this front office. first time i have ever said that about a Nets regime to be honest.

[MrDollarBills]

Assuming Porter isn't an option, I'd be okay taking a stab at Shabazz Muhammad or Tony Snell.

Neither is a true game changer, but they've both got chances to be serviceable starters and there's some untapped upside that could cause them to outperform their contract (and become bigger trade assets down the road).

i like snell at 12M or so other wise hard pass

i dont like shabazz if he paid me 12M. beyond hard pass

Shabazz isn't the greatest but he seems to have developed an understanding of what his role in the NBA is. I think as a stopgap you could do worse, as long as you don't break the bank for him he could be a filler starter and then transition to useful bench player once an appropriate starting level player is acquired.

We might as keep Sean Kilpatrick if that's the case. Not interested in Shabazz.

[Hello Brooklyn]

What of you guys think of Juan Pablo Valet?

Any chance we bring him here and put him in the D-League?

We did give up 2 second round picks for him after all.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Also I want absolutely no part of Reddick. He'd be nice if not for the 20 million dollar price tag.

There are plenty of other vets we can get for a more reasonable price. Still holding out for Otto Porter.