GT: Nets vs. Blazers & The NBA Playoffs- Thurs. 8/13/20 9:00pm EST

[MrDollarBills]

What a heartbreaking loss. I just wanted LeVert to make it because it would have been legendary. The hype would have been unreal.

But it wasn't meant to be. We tried our best.

I don't think this was heartbreaking at all.

https://stats.nba.com/game/0021901309/

Look at the production from Caris, Allen, Harris, Tyler, Temple, TLC, and Rodi.

The Nets will be dangerous next season.

[Prokorov]

I selfishly wanted a win because I love this squad, but I'm not mad one iota. I would have drawn up a play during a timeout but Jacque must have felt like give it to the hot hand. I didn't personally like the look, but if it were Dinwiddie, Kyrie, or Kevin and they miss I would have to live with it, too.

Caris showed out and is earning league wide respect. Hopefully he can continue his restart run and help the Nets not get swept by Toronto.

I like that they didnt call timeout. it also prevented portland from substituting...

the issue was more of the shot. Levert was cooking with the drives to the basket and his jumper from the outside wasnt falling. portland also in the bonus. wish caris would have drove.

But its not on caris. he was a BEAST tonight. has been all bubble.

Also props to tyler johnson. guys looks great. huge addition

[spanishninja]

awesome game guys. you guys are going to be a powerhouse in the East next year with KD and Irving back, and everybody will know not to hate. Your entire team brings it.

[Prokorov]

Just looking at the comments around the website and twitter, the Nets are going to be a feared opponent next year.

LeVert is going nowhere.

I think this only makes it more likely levert is traded. if his value is high we may have a real shot at beal.

[Papi_swav]

Lever will absolutely not be able to play the same game and get all those touches with KD and ESPECIALLY Kyrie dribble ISO heavy game for him to be as effective. You still would need to consider trading him for some elite 3 and D wing players that don’t need the ball. You have to understand the team dynamics of basketball and have some IQ to realize this for next year.

Yea but what 3 and D can we get by trading Levert that is of equal value? Levert trade value is definitely up after this last 2 weeks and he was balling in march before the shutdown. I don't know any 3 and D wings that is of equal value to him.

[Prokorov]

I wonder if the LeVert haters still think we should trade him next year lol. Its beyond obvious that hes our Third Star and should go nowhere.

I don't even want to entertain the idea.

If we can get the guys we talked about of course 100% you trade him. Levert was a stud last year vs the 76ers in the playoffs. that didnt carry over long term. and he is still a huge injury risk.

Levert has looked great for 8 games. but thats the kind of thing beal does for 82.

[Prokorov]

"Inefficient"

Read on Twitter

There are more than 8 games in an NBA season. even with the great 8 game stretch, his efficiency is bottom of the league type awful. Marquis teague type awful.

51.1 TS% after tonights game and the 8 bubble games.

it is an indisputable fact that he is inefficient. We saw 5 games like this vs. the 76ers in last years playoffs. if he could do this even 1 in every 4 games over the course of a long season it would be great. but he has not been able to do that or stay healthy.

The stuff Levert is doing over 8 games in the bubble is the stuff the guys rumored in a trade do over an entire season

[Hello Brooklyn]

I wonder if the LeVert haters still think we should trade him next year lol. Its beyond obvious that hes our Third Star and should go nowhere.

I don't even want to entertain the idea.

Can you stop being so defensive and constantly throwing this out there every time he has a good game? It takes away from him doing well, it takes away from just enjoying what we saw, you’re labeling people as haters as if they don’t have legitimate reasons for feeling the way they do, and you act like this “proves” them wrong when it doesn’t.

We have a young budding star and I have to constantly hear about him getting traded, hows hes the "least efficient player in the league" and how hes not even worth his contract.

Now all of you guys look foolish and you're made because I'm pointing out the obvious?

Sorry no can do. Learn to deal.

[Prokorov]

I wonder if the LeVert haters still think we should trade him next year lol. Its beyond obvious that hes our Third Star and should go nowhere.

I don't even want to entertain the idea.

Can you stop being so defensive and constantly throwing this out there every time he has a good game? It takes away from him doing well, it takes away from just enjoying what we saw, you’re labeling people as haters as if they don’t have legitimate reasons for feeling the way they do, and you act like this “proves” them wrong when it doesn’t.

Exactly this. instead of every night fan singing his praises he is forcing people to point out leverts flaws and inconsistencies. i dont think there is a single levert hater here. but when someone spouts flat out factually incorrect claims and homer claims he is some stud based on a handful of games it forces others to correct that

[Hello Brooklyn]

So what do you guys think of Vaughn? How much of the Nets playing well lately is due to him? Players seem to like him.

He did a great job in the Bubble but completely different team next year.

Not sure he works with KD & Kyrie.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Lever will absolutely not be able to play the same game and get all those touches with KD and ESPECIALLY Kyrie dribble ISO heavy game for him to be as effective. You still would need to consider trading him for some elite 3 and D wing players that don’t need the ball. You have to understand the team dynamics of basketball and have some IQ to realize this for next year.

KD plays off ball anyway. I think just stagger Kyrie and LeVert's minutes. In closeout situations you basically have 3 great options.

[Prokorov]

We have a young budding star and I have to constantly hear about him getting traded, hows hes the "least efficient player in the league" and how hes not even worth his contract.

He isnt young. he is 26. he isnt some 22 year old kid anymore.

Now all of you guys look foolish and you're made because I'm pointing out the obvious?

Sorry no can do. Learn to deal.

No one is mad. we are just pointing out you are factually incorrect.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I wonder if the LeVert haters still think we should trade him next year lol. Its beyond obvious that hes our Third Star and should go nowhere.

I don't even want to entertain the idea.

If we can get the guys we talked about of course 100% you trade him. Levert was a stud last year vs the 76ers in the playoffs. that didnt carry over long term. and he is still a huge injury risk.

Levert has looked great for 8 games. but thats the kind of thing beal does for 82.

It didn't carry long term cause he got injured. I've been telling you this in all of our arguments.

Every time LeVert is healthy he is a beast.

I have no interest in trading him for Lavine or Holiday.

Beal is a conversation, but I don't see why Washington even considers trading him unless he demands out.

If it takes LeVert, Allen and all our picks I'm not sure its worth it. I'd rather keep LeVert, Allen and invest in player like Ibaka.

[Prokorov]

It didn't carry long term cause he got injured. I've been telling you this in all of our arguments.

It didnt even carry short term. as he struggle before the injury. And as ive shown you like 12 times already, there are exactly ZERO splits where levert has been an efficient scorer. all 4 years pre and post injury and his only healthy season in year 2.

Every time LeVert is healthy he is a beast.

Year 2 was the only time he was healthy. he was not a beast.

I have no interest in trading him for Lavine or Holiday.

luckily you are not GM

Beal is a conversation, but I don't see why Washington even considers trading him unless he demands out.

im glad you would consider trading an oft-injured inefficient role player for an all-NBA 30 PPG scoring machine.

If it takes LeVert, Allen and all our picks I'm not sure its worth it. I'd rather keep LeVert, Allen and invest in player like Ibaka.

Levert/Allen/All our picks is a weak package. Allen is due money. the picks are non-lotto. levert is an injury red flag

[Hello Brooklyn]

"Inefficient"

Read on Twitter

There are more than 8 games in an NBA season. even with the great 8 game stretch, his efficiency is bottom of the league type awful. Marquis teague type awful.

51.1 TS% after tonights game and the 8 bubble games.

it is an indisputable fact that he is inefficient. We saw 5 games like this vs. the 76ers in last years playoffs. if he could do this even 1 in every 4 games over the course of a long season it would be great. but he has not been able to do that or stay healthy.

The stuff Levert is doing over 8 games in the bubble is the stuff the guys rumored in a trade do over an entire season

LOL again his efficiency was "off" because he had a bad injury.

Look at Steph's efficiency this year. I'm not comparing the two except for the point that players will put up bad stats when returning from injuries.

Also this wasn't just 8 games. These were all 8 high level, determinative, high intensity games. All games are not equal. LeVert delivers when it matters most.

The injury think is a legitimate concern and I won't dispute anyone who think LeVert's injury risk makes him a bad long term investment. But when healthy hes a borderline star. We've seen enough evidence.

[John-S]

"Inefficient"

Read on Twitter

There are more than 8 games in an NBA season. even with the great 8 game stretch, his efficiency is bottom of the league type awful. Marquis teague type awful.

51.1 TS% after tonights game and the 8 bubble games.

it is an indisputable fact that he is inefficient. We saw 5 games like this vs. the 76ers in last years playoffs. if he could do this even 1 in every 4 games over the course of a long season it would be great. but he has not been able to do that or stay healthy.

The stuff Levert is doing over 8 games in the bubble is the stuff the guys rumored in a trade do over an entire season

Jonathan Isaac would be an amazing fit playing the 4 spot. That boy is an up and coming defensive beast and getting better on offence. Aaron Gordon is another option also. Orlando really needs offence but it could be a case of just spinning your wheels in the east since their are already 6 elite squads especially if Oladipo was 100%. Nets will make it 7 unless Kyrie hinders their style for winning and/or their management don’t do their homework this fall’s off season. Levert will never realize his potential on a Kyrie led backcourt. That is what I am saying.Spencer wouldn’t e half as effective either unless he is coming off the bench and never on the court with Kyrie

[Prokorov]

[quote="Hello Brooklyn[/quote]

LOL again his efficiency was "off" because he had a bad injury. [/quote]

You keep citing the injures:

1) Injuries make it worse. in addition to being inefficent he is injury prone
2) for the 50th time, when he is healthy he is still super ineffient. pre-post injury every year he has been inefficient. what is this mysterious period of time he was "healthy" and efficient? year 2 was the only year with health and he was inefficient.

Look at Steph's efficiency this year. I'm not comparing the two except for the point that players will put up bad stats when returning from injuries.

Steph was efficient prior to his injury. Levert was not. it is a terirble comparison. thats the point. BEFORE injury all 4 years levert was inefficient.

Also this wasn't just 8 games. These were all 8 high level, determinative, high intensity games. All games are not equal. LeVert delivers when it matters most.

its too bad all 82 games dont count or he may actually be a great player.

The injury think is a legitimate concern and I won't dispute anyone who think LeVert's injury risk makes him a bad long term investment. But when healthy hes a borderline star. We've seen enough evidence.

he isnt. he has been inefficient when healthy his entire pro career

[Hello Brooklyn]

luckily you are not GM

Beal is a conversation, but I don't see why Washington even considers trading him unless he demands out.

im glad you would consider trading an oft-injured inefficient role player for an all-NBA 30 PPG scoring machine.

If it takes LeVert, Allen and all our picks I'm not sure its worth it. I'd rather keep LeVert, Allen and invest in player like Ibaka.

Levert/Allen/All our picks is a weak package. Allen is due money. the picks are non-lotto. levert is an injury red flag

Luckily you are not GM otherwise we would have resigned D Lo and Kyrie instead of KD and Kyrie.

And you have the audacity to question my judgement.

We don't need Beal when we have depth, chemistry, youth and two Superstars. You wanna ruin it all to bring in Beal and hamper our flexibility. No thanks.

With Beal we lose Allen, LeVert, Dinwiddie and won't be able to resign Harris. We also give up all our picks and flexibility moving forward.

I am happy with my team as is.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I wonder if the LeVert haters still think we should trade him next year lol. Its beyond obvious that hes our Third Star and should go nowhere.

I don't even want to entertain the idea.

Can you stop being so defensive and constantly throwing this out there every time he has a good game? It takes away from him doing well, it takes away from just enjoying what we saw, you’re labeling people as haters as if they don’t have legitimate reasons for feeling the way they do, and you act like this “proves” them wrong when it doesn’t.

Exactly this. instead of every night fan singing his praises he is forcing people to point out leverts flaws and inconsistencies. i dont think there is a single levert hater here. but when someone spouts flat out factually incorrect claims and homer claims he is some stud based on a handful of games it forces others to correct that

I'm actually not forcing you to do anything.

I'm stating my opinion and you are choosing to respond because you love arguing. If it bothers you then don't quote my responses.

[Prokorov]

Luckily you are not GM otherwise we would have resigned D Lo and Kyrie instead of KD and Kyrie.

I would have signed Kyrie and KD. i can separate being a fan from what is best for the team.

And you have the audacity to question my judgement.

i dont question your judgement. i correct what you falsely pass on as fact with actual facts. like the fact that the nets have not once had a winning record with levert. not a single year. not a single pre or post injury split.

We don't need Beal when we have depth, chemistry, youth and two Superstars. You wanna ruin it all to bring in Beal and hamper our flexibility. No thanks.

We would still have depth with Beal. We would potentially have better chemistyr with beal as he is better off-ball. There is no situation where you dont need an elite player in his prime who excels both on and off the ball.

not to mention, with Kyrie/KD both being injury risks and guaranteed to be load managed, you need a star like beal to carry you when they are out.

With Beal we lose Allen, LeVert, Dinwiddie and won't be able to resign Harris. We also give up all our picks and flexibility moving forward.

We could make that trade and still sign harris. Beal would come in via trade. and we have harris bird rights and can over the cap to sign him. We would just need to match salaries for beal, which we easily can.