Going forward to next season and beyond

[DarkXaero]

Looks like Vaughn is staying with us. I'm glad, but part of me wishes he took a head coaching job because it's foul how Nash leap frogged him.

He's probably waiting for Nash to hang em up....thus inherit the big 3.

Maybe we can run an actual offense that teams can't remotely slow down.

Bro we posted the best offensive efficiency in NBA history this season, despite not even having the big 3 on the floor, cmon man.

And as for this clamoring for Vaughn as HC, I'll remind everyone that Vaughn was a disaster as a full time HC with the Orlando Magic.

[Prokorov]

He's probably waiting for Nash to hang em up....thus inherit the big 3.

Maybe we can run an actual offense that teams can't remotely slow down.

Bro we posted the best offensive efficiency in NBA history this season, despite not even having the big 3 on the floor, cmon man.

And as for this clamoring for Vaughn as HC, I'll remind everyone that Vaughn was a disaster as a full time HC with the Orlando Magic.

our offense will be all time elite on talent alone... its only when you get to super close late playoffs with guys hurt where coaching matters... but that pretty important so having a coach who isnt a complete moron helps.

Nash makes orlando vaughn look like a popovich, aurebach, norman dale hybrid

[DarkXaero]

Maybe we can run an actual offense that teams can't remotely slow down.

Bro we posted the best offensive efficiency in NBA history this season, despite not even having the big 3 on the floor, cmon man.

And as for this clamoring for Vaughn as HC, I'll remind everyone that Vaughn was a disaster as a full time HC with the Orlando Magic.

our offense will be all time elite on talent alone... its only when you get to super close late playoffs with guys hurt where coaching matters... but that pretty important so having a coach who isnt a complete moron helps.

Nash makes orlando vaughn look like a popovich, aurebach, norman dale hybrid

Yeah except our all time elite talent barely played games together for us in the regular season. Kevin Durant played less than 50% of our regular season games. Harden played just 50% of our regular season. Kyrie missed almost 20 games in a 72 game season. Despite all that, we still posted the best offensive efficiency ever. So let's give some credit where its due.

Post season, when you really have 1 star healthy out of 3, and you're facing off against one of the elite teams in the league, struggle is expected to happen. I absolutely do not understand the constant bitching and whining over this.

[ecuhus1981]

Bro we posted the best offensive efficiency in NBA history this season, despite not even having the big 3 on the floor, cmon man.

And as for this clamoring for Vaughn as HC, I'll remind everyone that Vaughn was a disaster as a full time HC with the Orlando Magic.

our offense will be all time elite on talent alone... its only when you get to super close late playoffs with guys hurt where coaching matters... but that pretty important so having a coach who isnt a complete moron helps.

Nash makes orlando vaughn look like a popovich, aurebach, norman dale hybrid

Yeah except our all time elite talent barely played games together for us in the regular season. Kevin Durant played less than 50% of our regular season games. Harden played just 50% of our regular season. Kyrie missed almost 20 games in a 72 game season. Despite all that, we still posted the best offensive efficiency ever. So let's give some credit where its due.

Post season, when you really have 1 star healthy out of 3, and you're facing off against one of the elite teams in the league, struggle is expected to happen. I absolutely do not understand the constant bitching and whining over this.

I agree that the offense wasn't a problem.

We could use more variety in our sets, but you cannot argue with the statistical results. We redefined elite offense, and we have great room for improvement simply by being decently healthy.

Defense can improve, and I hope we take serious steps with the roster to improve it. We talk like bringing back all 15 will solve everything and guarantee a chip, but that's not practical, and might not be our best option. For example, Jeff balled out for us, saved us offensively in a few games. He also leaked defensively, especially the more we exposed him as a small ball 5. He shot 7% better than his career average from 3, but far the best mark of his 15 years in the league. Should we pay him like he cab repeat that success? offer a 35yo the taxpayer MLE for 3 years and further hamstring our wage bill? Not to mention, he ended the season as damaged goods. For the vet's minimum, sure. But if someone else offers him more, wish him well, and bring in Rudy Gay, Otto Porter, Nicolas Batum or whoever will accept the min for that role.

[Prokorov]

Bro we posted the best offensive efficiency in NBA history this season, despite not even having the big 3 on the floor, cmon man.

And as for this clamoring for Vaughn as HC, I'll remind everyone that Vaughn was a disaster as a full time HC with the Orlando Magic.

our offense will be all time elite on talent alone... its only when you get to super close late playoffs with guys hurt where coaching matters... but that pretty important so having a coach who isnt a complete moron helps.

Nash makes orlando vaughn look like a popovich, aurebach, norman dale hybrid

Yeah except our all time elite talent barely played games together for us in the regular season. Kevin Durant played less than 50% of our regular season games. Harden played just 50% of our regular season. Kyrie missed almost 20 games in a 72 game season. Despite all that, we still posted the best offensive efficiency ever. So let's give some credit where its due.

Post season, when you really have 1 star healthy out of 3, and you're facing off against one of the elite teams in the league, struggle is expected to happen. I absolutely do not understand the constant bitching and whining over this.

What credit is due?

So for alot of games nash "only" had 2 superstar players instead of 3? that is supposed to be a handicap? Hell any 1 of those guys is probably good to make you top 5-6 offensively. let alone 2.

Nash cost us the bucks series. even with injuries, we had it won. he threw away game 3 and blew games 6 and 7 despite durant being superman. any other coach in the league we win in 4 or 5 games

[DarkXaero]

our offense will be all time elite on talent alone... its only when you get to super close late playoffs with guys hurt where coaching matters... but that pretty important so having a coach who isnt a complete moron helps.

Nash makes orlando vaughn look like a popovich, aurebach, norman dale hybrid

Yeah except our all time elite talent barely played games together for us in the regular season. Kevin Durant played less than 50% of our regular season games. Harden played just 50% of our regular season. Kyrie missed almost 20 games in a 72 game season. Despite all that, we still posted the best offensive efficiency ever. So let's give some credit where its due.

Post season, when you really have 1 star healthy out of 3, and you're facing off against one of the elite teams in the league, struggle is expected to happen. I absolutely do not understand the constant bitching and whining over this.

What credit is due?

So for alot of games nash "only" had 2 superstar players instead of 3? that is supposed to be a handicap? Hell any 1 of those guys is probably good to make you top 5-6 offensively. let alone 2.

Nash cost us the bucks series. even with injuries, we had it won. he threw away game 3 and blew games 6 and 7 despite durant being superman. any other coach in the league we win in 4 or 5 games

I mean I just broke it down for you, two of our stars didn't play in more than 50% of our regular season games, while the other star didn't play in 25% of our games. So yeah, that's a pretty serious handicap, especially when you take in the roster turnover into account, and the near non-existent preseason/training camp.

The last part that you wrote is so ridiculous that I honestly don't think you believe it yourself.

[Prokorov]

Yeah except our all time elite talent barely played games together for us in the regular season. Kevin Durant played less than 50% of our regular season games. Harden played just 50% of our regular season. Kyrie missed almost 20 games in a 72 game season. Despite all that, we still posted the best offensive efficiency ever. So let's give some credit where its due.

Post season, when you really have 1 star healthy out of 3, and you're facing off against one of the elite teams in the league, struggle is expected to happen. I absolutely do not understand the constant bitching and whining over this.

What credit is due?

So for alot of games nash "only" had 2 superstar players instead of 3? that is supposed to be a handicap? Hell any 1 of those guys is probably good to make you top 5-6 offensively. let alone 2.

Nash cost us the bucks series. even with injuries, we had it won. he threw away game 3 and blew games 6 and 7 despite durant being superman. any other coach in the league we win in 4 or 5 games

I mean I just broke it down for you, two of our stars didn't play in more than 50% of our regular season games, while the other star didn't play in 25% of our games. So yeah, that's a pretty serious handicap, especially when you take in the roster turnover into account, and the near non-existent preseason/training camp.

The last part that you wrote is so ridiculous that I honestly don't think you believe it yourself.

80% of our games we had at least 2 superstars playing (thats 2 more then most teams).

98% of our games we had at least 1 superstar playing.

It is not a handicap to "only" have Kyrie/Harden or KD/Kyrie. thats an enormous luxury 90% of teams dont have. it is nowhere near a handicap. not to mention, this is an unprecidented year for injuries. most teams have 1 or 2 all-stars with injuries to one or both. and 0 superstars.

Nash had more to work with then any team in the league all year

[MrDollarBills]

I think that we could have won the Bucks series had Nash not been so slow to make offensive adjustments.

However, what we had going on was not sustainable by any means. KD was playing 48 mins, Harden was risking significant damage by playing on a grade 2 strain. Green was not himself and Joe Harris was all out of sorts. As angry as I am, it's kind of better that we bowed out when we did.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I think that we could have won the Bucks series had Nash not been so slow to make offensive adjustments.

However, what we had going on was not sustainable by any means. KD was playing 48 mins, Harden was risking significant damage by playing on a grade 2 strain. Green was not himself and Joe Harris was all out of sorts. As angry as I am, it's kind of better that we bowed out when we did.

The sad part is I would give us the edge over this hobbled Hawks team too. And then in the Finals who knows what happens.

Maybe Kyrie comes back or Harden can get back to himself.

A few stupid mistakes in that Game 7 probably cost us a title. One Harris 3, wide open Harden make or KD being an inch back.

[Trader_Joe]

Our payroll is already really high and we didn't use the taxpayer MLE or Dinwiddie DPE last season.

I doubt Brown is back. He might get more than would make sense to match.

Dinwiddie wants to get paid and we have FAs in Green and Blake. He won't be a Net. And if he is traded it will be tough because we can't take a sign and traded player back and Base Year stuff. So sounds it needs to involve a team with cap to facilitate a trip to LA. Otherwise I'm thinking he does sign with..the other NY team.

I also think trading Joe is shortsighted but at the same time, I'd listen to offers that have us depth and D.

Offer Green and BG the vet minimums or part of an exception. Think one or both might take it.

Sign Reddick for the min
Sign Ariza for the min
Sign M.James for min as I think his team doesn't want him back.

See if Jordan along with 2 2nds gets Plumlee, if Nash won't play DJ. Plumlee plays D and can pass from the high post, even if he cant make a shot. It also lowers payroll.

If Dinwiddie is signing with a team under the cap (other than the other NY team), offer them a protected 2nd and cash for a trade exception.

I guess pick up the option on Alize.
Dunno if R.Perry is worth a roster spot or even a 2 way, but maybe.

Float Shamet and Claxton for the best wing they can. Dunno who that is right now, so I'll leave them.

Harden l M.James
Irving l Reddick l Shamet
Harris l Ariza
Durant l J.Green l A.Johnson
Blake l Plumlee l Claxton
+
#27+49+59
$20mish Dinwiddie TE
Tax MLE

Crowded up front but that's assuming we sign guys and keep Alize. Also it's a very injury prone group.

[Papi_swav]

We need a PJ Tucker, Jae Crowder type of wing. A dog that will defend and get under skin.

[Hello Brooklyn]

We need a PJ Tucker, Jae Crowder type of wing. A dog that will defend and get under skin.

Yeah. I feel like we tried desperately to get one of those guys through buyout but it just wasn't happening.

Give Marks a full off season with this new roster and it will be way easier.

Does Tucker leave if they win a ring?

Hes boys with KD. I would give him the MLE tbh. We know his value in the playoffs. And getting him off the Bucks alone is huge.

He defends KD better than anyone in the league.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I still don't get why we can't just go over the tax to resign Dinwiddie and offload salary elsewhere.

You guys really don't think we could got rid of Jordan? Or trade Harris for some younger players and picks?

Dinwiddie is going to make us unstoppable. And he fits way better with Kyrie or Harden then he ever did with Levert.

Then just get Reddick or another shooter on a minimum.

[MrDollarBills]

Kevin Love wants to come here if he's bought out allegedly

[ArksNetsSince99]

I still don't get why we can't just go over the tax to resign Dinwiddie and offload salary elsewhere.

You guys really don't think we could got rid of Jordan? Or trade Harris for some younger players and picks?

Dinwiddie is going to make us unstoppable. And he fits way better with Kyrie or Harden then he ever did with Levert.

Then just get Reddick or another shooter on a minimum.

Not sure if he wants to be back in BRK in the first place , him recovering whole time in LA , and Nash was asked about Din several times and his answers was like "I don’t know about his status" "he’s not in contact"etc , both Din and Nets seems distant for some reason , and that reason is prob amount of next Din contract , saying that I would love having him back in Brk

[Hello Brooklyn]

I still don't get why we can't just go over the tax to resign Dinwiddie and offload salary elsewhere.

You guys really don't think we could got rid of Jordan? Or trade Harris for some younger players and picks?

Dinwiddie is going to make us unstoppable. And he fits way better with Kyrie or Harden then he ever did with Levert.

Then just get Reddick or another shooter on a minimum.

Not sure if he wants to be back in BRK in the first place , him recovering whole time in LA , and Nash was asked about Din several times and his answers was like "I don’t know about his status" "he’s not in contact"etc , both Din and Nets seems distant for some reason , and that reason is prob amount of next Din contract , saying that I would love having him back in Brk

Din just wants his money. If he gets it with BRK he will take it.

No way in **** do we sign and trade him to the Clippers or Lakers.

If he wants that he can go rot in Charlotte or Detroit for all I care. Although neither of those teams would even want him.

Nobody needs a PG right now. I think his market won't be what he thinks he is. Especially coming off an ACL.

[Prokorov]

I still don't get why we can't just go over the tax to resign Dinwiddie and offload salary elsewhere.

You guys really don't think we could got rid of Jordan? Or trade Harris for some younger players and picks?

Dinwiddie is going to make us unstoppable. And he fits way better with Kyrie or Harden then he ever did with Levert.

Then just get Reddick or another shooter on a minimum.

im not choosing spencer coming of acl injury over joe harris. i dont care if joe never hit a shot in the playoffs in his life. Joe is a better fit and what he does is harder to find.

we can move jordan, but he makes half or less of what dinwiddie is looking for. we dont really have any salary outside our top 4 guys.

[Prokorov]

Kevin Love wants to come here if he's bought out allegedly

Love would be amazing. legit stretch 5. think about how much offensive value green and blake had... Love is a sniper and a better rebounder then either of them. you split minutes with him and blake to keep both fresh and we may make the GSW offense look like the washington generals thats how good we would be.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I still don't get why we can't just go over the tax to resign Dinwiddie and offload salary elsewhere.

You guys really don't think we could got rid of Jordan? Or trade Harris for some younger players and picks?

Dinwiddie is going to make us unstoppable. And he fits way better with Kyrie or Harden then he ever did with Levert.

Then just get Reddick or another shooter on a minimum.

im not choosing spencer coming of acl injury over joe harris. i dont care if joe never hit a shot in the playoffs in his life. Joe is a better fit and what he does is harder to find.

we can move jordan, but he makes half or less of what dinwiddie is looking for. we dont really have any salary outside our top 4 guys.

ACL injuries are not that big of a deal. Players came back from them without much issue anymore.

Even if Harris wasn't a habitual playoff choker I would take Dinwiddie over him. He gives us a 6th man scorer off the bench that would be a HUGE luxury in the playoff series.

Harden/Kyrie/KD are guaranteed to miss minimum 30-35 games per season between the 3 of them. Likely more. We need another guy who can take off that load.

Meanwhile I can get 80% of what Harris gives me by signing Reddick. Who is DESPERATE to play in Brooklyn to live in his apartment there.

OR just play more Shamet. Who is better defensively and was far better in the playoffs. A backup shooter off the bench can easily be filled through the draft or on a minimum.

Its a no brainer to me. But will never happen because Nash/Marks have a crush on their golden boy Joe Harris.

Harris still has a ton of value and could get us a good defensive pieces as well.

[MrDollarBills]

Kevin Love wants to come here if he's bought out allegedly

Love would be amazing. legit stretch 5. think about how much offensive value green and blake had... Love is a sniper and a better rebounder then either of them. you split minutes with him and blake to keep both fresh and we may make the GSW offense look like the washington generals thats how good we would be.

I can see the fit. What I don't want is Nash and MDA trotting out line ups with Love at center.

It's not even about Love the player, who I know can offer value to us, it's about the coach.