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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#181 » by Prokorov » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:13 am

Second watch done. i skipped the garbage time. some more things that stand out. We lost alot of 50-50 balls, but alot of the ones we didnt end up with were kind of bad luck. good defensive play, strip, it hits someones foot and rolls right to a buck player. We get a deflect or a steal and then give it back on a slip. We come up with a loose ball and get called for a phantom foul. and they all seemed to come at the worst time... like after we cut it to 8 or 9 points.

The majority of our offensive rebounds allowed came in transition or a long shot after a big switched out. it is part of why despite going big, we still hard rebounding trouble. when you switch you have a small boxing out lopez or giannis. our big issues rebounding are likely more due to switch everything then they are size.

Seemed like such long stretches without Harden or durant. looking at the breakdown it loosk like 18 minutes of court time together. but it seemed like an enternity with them not playing together watching. staggering has to happen, but i thought we went too long bringing one of the stars back to get them more court time together.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#182 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:15 am

I think if anything, James Johnson needs to be getting some of LMA's minutes. Bembry also needs to play. We need to inject defense and hustle into the line up. Guys were ball watching and not playing hard. I know it's game 1, but show some pride. Patty Mills played with urgency. We need everyone else to do that.

Carter needs to start at SG. Harris needs to come off of the bench.

Give me Harden/Carter/Durant/Griffin/Claxton to start.

Mills, Bembry, Harris, Johnson, Milsap as reserves. LMA really should only play versus Embiid, Jokic, etc. I dunno where you find mins for Brown.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#183 » by Gooner » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:42 am

Nash will be even more exposed now that D'Antoni is gone. He is a disaster, I don't know why KD decided that he was gonna be the coach. It's not about putting your friends in these positions, you need competence, and Nash is a clueless puppett with no coaching philosphy and no authority.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#184 » by Stone » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:41 pm

The Bucks looked like a well oiled machine last night. We did make a few decent runs to get into striking position but the Bucks adjusted and waltzed to an easy victory. The Bucks are no fluke, they are the champs for a reason and are the team to beat this season.Can they repeat? Absolutely yes.

On the other hand we looked overwhelmed and outmatched. The all around effort was not there, I'm glad SVG called out Claxton for not getting back and giving the Bucks an easy basket. But the disappointment was beyond the lack of effort. There was a lack of communication and leadership. All the little things we did wrong added up to a big thing = a loss.

I did not think we did so bad turnover wise, we only had 12. But the timing of those 12 TO's is what killed our momentum. Another thing is we need more than 9 points from Joe in 30 minutes of playing time.

I am honestly not bothered by this loss, however I will be upset if we don't learn from it and make adjustments.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#185 » by NetsJets » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:51 pm

We got out coached and out played. Patty Mills gave us some good minutes off the bench hitting 3’s. I liked that they kept feeding Claxton. Durant and Harden were their usual selves. But Nash needs to figure out his rotations. Aldridge might need to accept that he won’t play much, but it’s only one game.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#186 » by TheNetsFan » Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:36 pm

After the series Brown had against the Bucks in the playoffs, and his effectiveness against Middleton, I don't understand why he was glued to the bench. Looking at the box score, it looked like Middleton went cold at the end, but I recall seeing that he was like 7-10 at some point.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#187 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:17 pm

I opt to start Carter over Harris and Brown at SG because Carter can hit threes as well as defend. We need guys that are going to hustle and scrap.

Harden and Harris in the backcourt is not going to work. Harris is a liability out there if he's not scoring on threes and 9 points in 30 mins is crap. At least Carter can provide aggressive defense and hit threes at a decent clip. I could care less if he scores 5 points a game, his defense will be much more useful.

Also, although it is one game, Claxton got called out on national television and frankly it's embarrassing. He should be all over those 50/50 balls. if he's not, then maybe we need to just go to Blake at C and bring in James Johnson at PF.

I'm pretty irritated from what I saw last night, not gonna lie to yall. That lack of hustle is inexcusable. Get up for your opponents. This team should never lose by this kind of margin, doesn't matter who we're playing.

Play the defenders. Harris needs to play, but he doesn't need to start. I'm tired of absolute no names on the Bucks coming through torching us. Marks brought in Carter, signed Bembry and Johnson, and resigned Bruce. Nash needs to use them. Now.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#188 » by gigantes » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:40 pm

At only 6'1" I would think some matchups are very much not going to be in Carter's favor. I wonder if Brown worked on his three-ball this offseason? It would certainly help.

I like the constructive critiques the last page or so, but some of the earlier pessimistic comments are just ridiculous. The Bucks' core has been playing together for years, and the Nets only brought back seven players from last year. Even the big two are pretty new, and haven't played that much for us yet.

I don't disagree that the Nets are title favorites, but this is a team that shouldn't really be firing on all cylinders until a couple months down the road. IMO we should expect some aggravating losses in the meantime.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#189 » by My2CentsR » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:42 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Props to the Bucks. They are the champions and they showed why. The Nets need to take this and realize that nothing will be handed to them.

Shout out to Patty Mills. He showed up tonight from the time he checked into the game while everyone else was lolly gagging.

onto Philly.


Bucks are good. But they are the only other contender in the East.

Sixers are collapsing before our eyes. Hawks and Heat are not on the same talent level.

Looking for a big bounce back win next game hopefully.


We're the new kids on the block at the moment (until proven otherwise), but don't completely sleep on the Bulls. Things come down to not only talent but also chemistry and health potential of all teams.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#190 » by old skool » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:42 pm

Fans draw immediate conclusions from these early season games, but everyone needs to remember that the lack of early preparation leads to erratic results that mean little in the long run. Shortened training camps with limited practice time, fewer preseason games with more minutes played by camp invitees and G-Leaguers, and veterans focused more on load management than the imperative to win every game all contribute to wins and losses that don't translate in the long run. (Nevermind the uncertainty of the Kylie Kovid drama that impacts roles, minutes and rotations.)

Early on, winning teams celebrate and pump their chests. Losing teams embrace built in excuses, talk about patience and how it takes time to get everyone on the same page. The season is a marathon and the race is never won in the first 100 yards.

The Nets, however, are in year three of being a super team. They have only played a relatively small number of games with their "real team". The tantalizing prospect of that "real team" allows them to attach an asterisk on any disappointing performance when superstar pieces are missing. That prospect leaves the Nets held hostage to their incredible potential, never free to build the team they have on the court. The unfolding season will be interesting.

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Post#191 » by Gooner » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:22 pm

Nash needs to be sacked, he doesn't deserve to be in this position.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#192 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:18 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
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Patty was hitting some ridiculous threes. Honestly, he was the only guy that came into this game ready for battle. everyone else was BS'ing.


Patty is what Harris wishes he could be.


I mean, Harris is pretty damn elite as a shooter. shot 60% from three tonight. he had some bad playoff games in big spots. but overall he has been about as good as you could possibly ask for. He is being drastically overhated on.


He always sucks in big games and in the playoffs.

I'm tired of all these damn excuses for him. I hope he plays well and we trade him.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#193 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:23 pm

My2CentsR wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Props to the Bucks. They are the champions and they showed why. The Nets need to take this and realize that nothing will be handed to them.

Shout out to Patty Mills. He showed up tonight from the time he checked into the game while everyone else was lolly gagging.

onto Philly.


Bucks are good. But they are the only other contender in the East.

Sixers are collapsing before our eyes. Hawks and Heat are not on the same talent level.

Looking for a big bounce back win next game hopefully.


We're the new kids on the block at the moment (until proven otherwise), but don't completely sleep on the Bulls. Things come down to not only talent but also chemistry and health potential of all teams.


Bro stop.

I like the Bulls but not as a serious contender in the East. No shot of beating the Nets or Bucks in a playoff series.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#194 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:27 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:If claxiton can’t start will Blake play center ? They lacks defensive identity right now ..Kd had great scoring night though and mills was good .


I'd rather start Claxton and bring Blake off the bench. Blake is really good in spurts.

Claxton needs to prove he can be a starter in this league. Not giving up on him after one bad game vs an MVP.

He has the talent to do it.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#195 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:27 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:After the series Brown had against the Bucks in the playoffs, and his effectiveness against Middleton, I don't understand why he was glued to the bench. Looking at the box score, it looked like Middleton went cold at the end, but I recall seeing that he was like 7-10 at some point.


Not playing Brown is indefensible. If anything he brings high effort. Something we always seem to need.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#196 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:30 pm

This would be my starting lineup

Harden
Brown
Harris
KD
Claxton

We clearly need more defense. Brown will hound guys. Claxton has to play better. But hes still our best defensive big. Otherwise I'd start Milsap.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#197 » by andrewww » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:39 pm

Cutting Alize was a mistake. He was the one guy who was most definitely a plus on the boards which is what this team is sorely lacking.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#198 » by therealbig3 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:03 pm

We got whupped. Made some runs here and there but I think the closest we ever got it to was 5-6 points after going down big early, and the Bucks responded every time and put us away for good in the 4th. Props to them.

On our end, honestly, the entire RS really doesn't matter other than to build chemistry and figure out rotations, unless we totally collapse and are barely over .500 by the end of the season, which I don't see happening. Cuz last year we had HCA over everyone except the Sixers, and we had a great winning percentage against the good teams throughout the RS...and where did that get us? RS means absolutely nothing unless there's an unexpected collapse or a bunch of injuries and we barely sneak in on our last legs. Cuz at the end of the day, the better team will win, regardless of HCA.

LOL, but this is the Nets board, so there are gonna be grand sweeping conclusions made off of game 1 of the RS.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#199 » by My2CentsR » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:16 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
My2CentsR wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Bucks are good. But they are the only other contender in the East.

Sixers are collapsing before our eyes. Hawks and Heat are not on the same talent level.

Looking for a big bounce back win next game hopefully.


We're the new kids on the block at the moment (until proven otherwise), but don't completely sleep on the Bulls. Things come down to not only talent but also chemistry and health potential of all teams.


Bro stop.

I like the Bulls but not as a serious contender in the East. No shot of beating the Nets or Bucks in a playoff series.


First of all, don't assume I'm a bro. I understand it's not likely, esp. when it comes to Bucks, but I could imagine many teams (no offense but Nets included) falling off the wagon as the season advances due to injuries (from age, luck, and injury history) and/or lack of cohesion. Who knows if things with Irving/Durant/Harden will ever be consistent enough to progress. We have youth on our side with the oldest player on our team, DeRozan, being 32, and obviously Zach LaVine is no scrub. I know that preseason is preseason, but we are undefeated which is noteworthy considering the major roster shakeup we've just had. If we get to the finals, we don't meet every team. If Hawks squeaked through and beat the Bucks last year, you guys would have likely been champs and Durant's toes wouldn't be trending, so you know well how match ups and injuries come into play after 90+ games.
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Re: Nets @ Bucks | 10.19.2021 @ 7:30 PM on TNT 

Post#200 » by HardenGoat » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:59 pm

lot to work on. Not going to make any sweeping judgements from this but certainly was a disappointment. Harden was fixated on getting in a rhythm with Claxton. To the point it looked like a training camp game.

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