2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[Ror1997]

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I'd be highly surprised if ATL matches. If they do, we don't know if they are going to the same 6-day song and dance that WAS is supposedly prepared to do. The Knicks could get back on the market 4 days ahead of us if ATL matches.

Bontemps is just pushing that story for clicks. Its misleading. The second the Wizards match, we're off the hook. The move can't become official until the wizards announce he's passed the physical. But that's in terms of press releases. Bontemps worded it weird so everybody reads his article and it looks the like Wizards and Nets are trading blows. In reality, wizards probably just don't want to announce the news on a sunday.

[moonpie]

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[CalamityX12]

Wow.

Cap space is the MVP this offseason

The one saving grace is that the Knicks can't get him either because of the THJ deal. Hopefully we give him a verbal offer and he's ok with waiting

I'd be highly surprised if ATL matches. However, in the event that they do, they probably aren't going to do the same 6-day song and dance that WAS is supposedly prepared to do to get us back for creating such a punitive offer sheet.

If ATL matches and doesn't force NYK to wait, they have 4 days to negotiate with KCP without us being a threat to the fray.

gods sake, is it 2 or 6 days?

if they say yes to match after 2 days, we should be good to go on Otto right? there's no turning back?

if they decline to match after 2 days, we should be good to go for KCP without delay right?

[ChokeFasncists]

What does that say about Lin? in the present....

Well, he's still the face of the franchise; with Brook gone even more so. He's the only vet leader both on and off the court. He's the only real starting caliber PG on both ends of the floor. They wanted Redick to come off the bench, I can imagine KCP would do that. Much smaller chance DRuss would do that. He was there to recruit Porter and probably will be with KCP. I'd imagine KCP can play a little bit of 3. Three guards rotation, that's pretty good. iHead and DVD might not get to play a lot unless there's injury tho. There will a tons of small lineup.

Plz be healthy!

Meanwhile, it's no sure thing KCP will come, he has many choices.

The future......who knows?

[Ror1997]

And what impact do our conversations about salary have on what happens in the NBA? Nothing. They're irrelevant. There is no point in talking salary. We do it because we're bored. Whats your point

And what impact do our conversations about players have on what happens in the NBA? Nothing. They're irrelevant. There is no point in talking players. We do it because we're bored. Whats your point

Talking about the players is what makes us fans.

We talk about the players because were fans.

We talk about the contracts because were GMs. Oh wait, we're not. So you can't apply that logic. Try again.

[CalamityX12]

What does that say about Lin? in the present....

Well, he's still the face of the franchise; with Brook gone even more so. He's the only vet leader both on and off the court. He's the only real starting caliber PG on both ends of the floor. They wanted Redick to come off the bench, I can imagine KCP would do that. Much smaller chance DRuss would do that. He was there to recruit Porter and probably will be with KCP. I'd imagine KCP can play a little bit of 3. Three guards rotation, that's pretty good. iHead and DVD might not get to play a lot unless there's injury tho. There will a tons of small lineup.

Plz be healthy!

Meanwhile, it's no sure thing KCP will come, he has many choices.

The future......who knows?

Lin will have his injuries, thats almost a given at some point(hope he's more healthy than not)

But that little dilemma comes back, Dlo almost for certain will not come off the bench. Which of Lin n KCP would? niether would want to i bet.

The more logical choice for me would be Lin and he could become everything in our 6th man role but didn't he want to get away from that?

[DarkXaero]

Have a feeling that Marks is about let me down severely with the offer he'll make for KCP. Anything over $15 mill/yr is a big no no for me. At this point in free agency, there are barely going to be any suitors for him, pretty much everyone has already spent money. I think ATL will be the only competitor. KCP is no longer a RFA so we don't need to overpay to prevent Detroit from matching. We have all the leverage, yet I feel that Marks will still overpay to get him.

[Mkdaman1818]

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[TinmanZBoy]

What does that say about Lin? in the present....

Well, he's still the face of the franchise; with Brook gone even more so. He's the only vet leader both on and off the court. He's the only real starting caliber PG on both ends of the floor. They wanted Redick to come off the bench, I can imagine KCP would do that. Much smaller chance DRuss would do that. He was there to recruit Porter and probably will be with KCP. I'd imagine KCP can play a little bit of 3. Three guards rotation, that's pretty good. iHead and DVD might not get to play a lot unless there's injury tho. There will a tons of small lineup.

Plz be healthy!

Meanwhile, it's no sure thing KCP will come, he has many choices.

The future......who knows?

Lin will have his injuries, thats almost a given at some point(hope he's more healthy than not)

But that little dilemma comes back, Dlo almost for certain will not come off the bench. Which of Lin n KCP would? niether would want to i bet.

The more logical choice for me would be Lin and he could become everything in our 6th man role but didn't he want to get away from that?

KCP has to pair up with a player maker, either Russell or Lin... for the long term, obviously it is Russell... Lin will be in a situation similar to IT in Celtics a couple of seasons ago... it will really depend on how Lin performs and he has to be healthy...

[TinmanZBoy]

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the market really dried up, much lower than I expected... still good for Bojan, he got paid
so Washington is going to match OPJ

[Crunky]

I'll offer Kcp a 1yr max deal 26million, take it or leave it. Maybe 2yrs because I don't see him getting great offers, likely the Hawks that's it.

[Karate Diop]

Aside from my concerns over his skills as a player (a "shooter" who's only an okay shooter), KCP's DUI bugs me a bit more... I'm just not sold on his commitment to the game.

[Roy Tarpley]

And what impact do our conversations about players have on what happens in the NBA? Nothing. They're irrelevant. There is no point in talking players. We do it because we're bored. Whats your point

Talking about the players is what makes us fans.

We talk about the players because were fans.

We talk about the contracts because were GMs. Oh wait, we're not. So you can't apply that logic. Try again.

I'm not trying to be argumentative but Nets fans on this board have been talking salaries, salary caps, contracts, poison pills, RFA, Natalie Jay, front-loaded payments, etc for a long time. Hell, Prok even has a separate thread on salary caps.

So I'm not sure why you're taking a stand here when I'm basically saying that KCP at $10m is okay but at $17m is not. Hundreds of other people have made similar salary-based arguments for a bunch of UFA and RFA, not sure why you're picking an argument here.

[Crunky]

The positive of a Kcp signing is he's more than just a 3&D, he can actually put the ball on the floor and dunk.

[Crunky]

Aside from my concerns over his skills as a player (a "shooter" who's only an okay shooter), KCP's DUI bugs me a bit more... I'm just not sold on his commitment to the game.

That's the main reason why I would only offer a 1yr 26million deal with maybe a team option for the 2yr being 26million.

[kastuul]

Well, he's still the face of the franchise; with Brook gone even more so. He's the only vet leader both on and off the court. He's the only real starting caliber PG on both ends of the floor. They wanted Redick to come off the bench, I can imagine KCP would do that. Much smaller chance DRuss would do that. He was there to recruit Porter and probably will be with KCP. I'd imagine KCP can play a little bit of 3. Three guards rotation, that's pretty good. iHead and DVD might not get to play a lot unless there's injury tho. There will a tons of small lineup.

Plz be healthy!

Meanwhile, it's no sure thing KCP will come, he has many choices.

The future......who knows?

Lin will have his injuries, thats almost a given at some point(hope he's more healthy than not)

But that little dilemma comes back, Dlo almost for certain will not come off the bench. Which of Lin n KCP would? niether would want to i bet.

The more logical choice for me would be Lin and he could become everything in our 6th man role but didn't he want to get away from that?

KCP has to pair up with a player maker, either Russell or Lin... for the long term, obviously it is Russell... Lin will be in a situation similar to IT in Celtics a couple of seasons ago... it will really depend on how Lin performs and he has to be healthy...

Lin's injury didn't need surgery. It doesn't hurt his ability.
Playing Lin off the bench means the 2018 1st pick will go to BOS again.

[Crunky]

We need Lin's ability to penetrate to get Kcp good looks, benching him wont be so smart.

[TinmanZBoy]

Lin will have his injuries, thats almost a given at some point(hope he's more healthy than not)

But that little dilemma comes back, Dlo almost for certain will not come off the bench. Which of Lin n KCP would? niether would want to i bet.

The more logical choice for me would be Lin and he could become everything in our 6th man role but didn't he want to get away from that?

KCP has to pair up with a player maker, either Russell or Lin... for the long term, obviously it is Russell... Lin will be in a situation similar to IT in Celtics a couple of seasons ago... it will really depend on how Lin performs and he has to be healthy...

Lin's injury didn't need surgery. It doesn't hurt his ability.
Playing Lin off the bench means the 2018 1st pick will go to BOS again.

Lin coming off bench does not mean he will get less minutes, he will still get his minutes.... like IT initially was coming off bench for the Boston, but he still was their best offense...

[All Nets]

If Porter is matched and KCP is signed, I don't think Kenny would start the season with Lin on the bench. He's still ultimately this team's leader with Brook gone, probably the only veteran who's still starter worthy.

Although he had his share of injuries, he averaged the most assists and shot the highest 3 point percent between all three of these guys, while having arguably the least amount of help. If I had to guess, I'd say the 2 spot is what's up for grabs between KCP and D'Lo with LeVert starting at SF.

Unfortunately there's a very real chance that our 4 most talented guys (all of whom can play SG) will be log-jammed for minutes and forced to play out of position. Especially with Goodwin, Dinwiddie, and Whitehead taking a good share of bench minutes.

Ironically, we were all complaining about lack of depth at SG last year when Foye was consistently starting.

[kastuul]

This is so inconsistent.

Kristian Winfield: Woj just said on ESPN The Jump that the Nets are sold on a Jeremy Lin-D’Angelo Russell back court.
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The Brooklyn Nets are planning to be an aggressive pursuer of Caldwell-Pope, angling to pair him in a young backcourt with D’Angelo Russell, league sources told ESPN