Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[DarkXaero]

Looks like the nerds may finally get the most unnecessary trade the nets may pull smh

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Scoop B is trash and almost always wrong. That trade doesn't work salary wise, and also seems like an overpay for expiring contract of Jrue. Dinwiddie obviously isn't anywhere near the defender that Jrue is, but he's a better offensive player than Jrue, and throwing in Allen on top of that (who I think is our most valuable asset after the untouchable pieces) shifts this in overpay territory.

But is he though?

And I'm imagining they workout some kind of extension or promise of one before any trade was finalized.

Yes

Dinwiddie vs Jrue


31.2 MPG - 34.7 MPG
20.6 PPG - 19.1 PPG
6.8 APG - 6.7 APG

Advanced
54.1 TS% - 53.7 TS%
2.7 OBPM - 1.6 OBPM
3.14 ORPM - 2.02 ORPM
2.68 O-PIPM - 1.25 O-PIPM
37.3% C&S3 - 36.4% C&S3

So not only is Dinwiddie a better scorer and facilitator in less minutes, he does it on better efficiency. Yes, on raw 3pt %, Dinwiddie shoots significantly worse than Jrue, but that has to do more with Dinwiddie being a poor pull-up 3pt shooter. On catch & shoot 3s, Dinwiddie shoots 37.3% on same volume as Jrue, who shoots 36.4%, and catch & shoot 3s become more valuable next to Kyrie & KD. Then you have other advanced stats which all indicate that Dinwiddie is the superior offensive impact player based on this season. In addition, according to advanced stats, Dinwiddie is one of the top P&R players in the league, and easily superior to Jrue there as well. Add in the fact that Dinwiddie is 3 years younger, and has been getting better each year. As I've constantly brought up Jrue on this thread, you know that I like Jrue a lot, and he is the better overall player than Dinwiddie, but he is not a better offensive player.

[MGrand15]

I wouldn't dismiss Scoop. He seems to at least have sources in the Kyrie camp and he was the first to report that the shoulder injury was much worse than what the Nets let on this year.

Doubt anything is done or close but it's probably a good indicator of guys and pieces were willing to trade. I get the interest in Jrue but giving up Spence and Allen scares me. Those are two sure fire playoff rotation players. 2 durable guys who will for sure get better playing next to KD. Right now, I look at Caris, Prince, and DJ as question marks.

[Papi_swav]

Looks like the nerds may finally get the most unnecessary trade the nets may pull smh

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We atleast need a center coming back or their 13th pick especially if we're adding Allen and a future 1st. They don't even want their 13th pick anyway.

I could see trying to expand the deal slightly to return Melli if we need another big body. Otherwise, I'm sure we can find a ring chasing veteran big to sign for a year.

yea true, there is a lot of free agent centers this off season. It would be dope if we could get Aaron Baynes.

[Papi_swav]

I don't know why you guys are so down on this trade tbh.

Dinwiddie and Levert basically do the same things. And Allen is not necessary with Jordan.

Jrue is basically the type of player we need. And Levert can be our 6th man.

I think it makes a lot of sense.

I agree with u but to be fair, We have some homers here which I totally understand. I really wish we can keep all of our guys because I love all of them except for Prince. But Din, Levert and Allen are our own homegrown guys so some guys don't want to let them go , and I feel the same way. But in order to win a chip sometimes we have to make the best moves for the right pieces to win. Jrue happens to be on of those guys and Din, LEvert , Allen happen to b our best assets.

[vincecarter4pres]

Scoop B is trash and almost always wrong. That trade doesn't work salary wise, and also seems like an overpay for expiring contract of Jrue. Dinwiddie obviously isn't anywhere near the defender that Jrue is, but he's a better offensive player than Jrue, and throwing in Allen on top of that (who I think is our most valuable asset after the untouchable pieces) shifts this in overpay territory.

But is he though?

And I'm imagining they workout some kind of extension or promise of one before any trade was finalized.

Yes

Dinwiddie vs Jrue


31.2 MPG - 34.7 MPG
20.6 PPG - 19.1 PPG
6.8 APG - 6.7 APG

Advanced
54.1 TS% - 53.7 TS%
2.7 OBPM - 1.6 OBPM
3.14 ORPM - 2.02 ORPM
2.68 O-PIPM - 1.25 O-PIPM
37.3% C&S3 - 36.4% C&S3

So not only is Dinwiddie a better scorer and facilitator in less minutes, he does it on better efficiency. Yes, on raw 3pt %, Dinwiddie shoots significantly worse than Jrue, but that has to do more with Dinwiddie being a poor pull-up 3pt shooter. On catch & shoot 3s, Dinwiddie shoots 37.3% on same volume as Jrue, who shoots 36.4%, and catch & shoot 3s become more valuable next to Kyrie & KD. Then you have other advanced stats which all indicate that Dinwiddie is the superior offensive impact player based on this season. In addition, according to advanced stats, Dinwiddie is one of the top P&R players in the league, and easily superior to Jrue there as well. Add in the fact that Dinwiddie is 3 years younger, and has been getting better each year. As I've constantly brought up Jrue on this thread, you know that I like Jrue a lot, and he is the better overall player than Dinwiddie, but he is not a better offensive player.

True, but the year before that you can argue the opposite. It's close though. This is going to be a wild off-season no matter what though. I still wonder if this is just the smoke and the fire will be an even bigger deal? Man I'd lose my mind if we got Harden lol.

[MGrand15]

But is he though?

And I'm imagining they workout some kind of extension or promise of one before any trade was finalized.

Yes

Dinwiddie vs Jrue


31.2 MPG - 34.7 MPG
20.6 PPG - 19.1 PPG
6.8 APG - 6.7 APG

Advanced
54.1 TS% - 53.7 TS%
2.7 OBPM - 1.6 OBPM
3.14 ORPM - 2.02 ORPM
2.68 O-PIPM - 1.25 O-PIPM
37.3% C&S3 - 36.4% C&S3

So not only is Dinwiddie a better scorer and facilitator in less minutes, he does it on better efficiency. Yes, on raw 3pt %, Dinwiddie shoots significantly worse than Jrue, but that has to do more with Dinwiddie being a poor pull-up 3pt shooter. On catch & shoot 3s, Dinwiddie shoots 37.3% on same volume as Jrue, who shoots 36.4%, and catch & shoot 3s become more valuable next to Kyrie & KD. Then you have other advanced stats which all indicate that Dinwiddie is the superior offensive impact player based on this season. In addition, according to advanced stats, Dinwiddie is one of the top P&R players in the league, and easily superior to Jrue there as well. Add in the fact that Dinwiddie is 3 years younger, and has been getting better each year. As I've constantly brought up Jrue on this thread, you know that I like Jrue a lot, and he is the better overall player than Dinwiddie, but he is not a better offensive player.

True, but the year before that you can argue the opposite. It's close though. This is going to be a wild off-season no matter what though. I still wonder if this is just the smoke and the fire will be an even bigger deal? Man I'd lose my mind if we got Harden lol.

I think ESPN and Twitter would break if we got Harden. The 3 most hated superstars on one team. I can't even imagine that.

[vincecarter4pres]

Yes

Dinwiddie vs Jrue


31.2 MPG - 34.7 MPG
20.6 PPG - 19.1 PPG
6.8 APG - 6.7 APG

Advanced
54.1 TS% - 53.7 TS%
2.7 OBPM - 1.6 OBPM
3.14 ORPM - 2.02 ORPM
2.68 O-PIPM - 1.25 O-PIPM
37.3% C&S3 - 36.4% C&S3

So not only is Dinwiddie a better scorer and facilitator in less minutes, he does it on better efficiency. Yes, on raw 3pt %, Dinwiddie shoots significantly worse than Jrue, but that has to do more with Dinwiddie being a poor pull-up 3pt shooter. On catch & shoot 3s, Dinwiddie shoots 37.3% on same volume as Jrue, who shoots 36.4%, and catch & shoot 3s become more valuable next to Kyrie & KD. Then you have other advanced stats which all indicate that Dinwiddie is the superior offensive impact player based on this season. In addition, according to advanced stats, Dinwiddie is one of the top P&R players in the league, and easily superior to Jrue there as well. Add in the fact that Dinwiddie is 3 years younger, and has been getting better each year. As I've constantly brought up Jrue on this thread, you know that I like Jrue a lot, and he is the better overall player than Dinwiddie, but he is not a better offensive player.

True, but the year before that you can argue the opposite. It's close though. This is going to be a wild off-season no matter what though. I still wonder if this is just the smoke and the fire will be an even bigger deal? Man I'd lose my mind if we got Harden lol.

I think ESPN and Twitter would break if we got Harden. The 3 most hated superstars on one team. I can't even imagine that.

For real.

[DarkXaero]

But is he though?

And I'm imagining they workout some kind of extension or promise of one before any trade was finalized.

Yes

Dinwiddie vs Jrue


31.2 MPG - 34.7 MPG
20.6 PPG - 19.1 PPG
6.8 APG - 6.7 APG

Advanced
54.1 TS% - 53.7 TS%
2.7 OBPM - 1.6 OBPM
3.14 ORPM - 2.02 ORPM
2.68 O-PIPM - 1.25 O-PIPM
37.3% C&S3 - 36.4% C&S3

So not only is Dinwiddie a better scorer and facilitator in less minutes, he does it on better efficiency. Yes, on raw 3pt %, Dinwiddie shoots significantly worse than Jrue, but that has to do more with Dinwiddie being a poor pull-up 3pt shooter. On catch & shoot 3s, Dinwiddie shoots 37.3% on same volume as Jrue, who shoots 36.4%, and catch & shoot 3s become more valuable next to Kyrie & KD. Then you have other advanced stats which all indicate that Dinwiddie is the superior offensive impact player based on this season. In addition, according to advanced stats, Dinwiddie is one of the top P&R players in the league, and easily superior to Jrue there as well. Add in the fact that Dinwiddie is 3 years younger, and has been getting better each year. As I've constantly brought up Jrue on this thread, you know that I like Jrue a lot, and he is the better overall player than Dinwiddie, but he is not a better offensive player.

True, but the year before that you can argue the opposite. It's close though. This is going to be a wild off-season no matter what though. I still wonder if this is just the smoke and the fire will be an even bigger deal? Man I'd lose my mind if we got Harden lol.

Yeah but I think Spencer's efficiency also suffered this year because of all the offensive load on him due to injuries. The year before, Dinwiddie had really good efficiency as the sixth man, and he shot the 3 better as well. Next year, I expect his efficiency to bounce back in that direction (if he's still on the team).

And yeah, I agree, I'm pretty excited about the coming offseason, I think we're bound to make roster moves, and I don't mean routine minimum signings to fill out the roster. I don't have any hope for something as crazy as Harden lmao but I think we can make some surprise moves of lesser profile.

[vincecarter4pres]

Yes

Dinwiddie vs Jrue


31.2 MPG - 34.7 MPG
20.6 PPG - 19.1 PPG
6.8 APG - 6.7 APG

Advanced
54.1 TS% - 53.7 TS%
2.7 OBPM - 1.6 OBPM
3.14 ORPM - 2.02 ORPM
2.68 O-PIPM - 1.25 O-PIPM
37.3% C&S3 - 36.4% C&S3

So not only is Dinwiddie a better scorer and facilitator in less minutes, he does it on better efficiency. Yes, on raw 3pt %, Dinwiddie shoots significantly worse than Jrue, but that has to do more with Dinwiddie being a poor pull-up 3pt shooter. On catch & shoot 3s, Dinwiddie shoots 37.3% on same volume as Jrue, who shoots 36.4%, and catch & shoot 3s become more valuable next to Kyrie & KD. Then you have other advanced stats which all indicate that Dinwiddie is the superior offensive impact player based on this season. In addition, according to advanced stats, Dinwiddie is one of the top P&R players in the league, and easily superior to Jrue there as well. Add in the fact that Dinwiddie is 3 years younger, and has been getting better each year. As I've constantly brought up Jrue on this thread, you know that I like Jrue a lot, and he is the better overall player than Dinwiddie, but he is not a better offensive player.

True, but the year before that you can argue the opposite. It's close though. This is going to be a wild off-season no matter what though. I still wonder if this is just the smoke and the fire will be an even bigger deal? Man I'd lose my mind if we got Harden lol.

Yeah but I think Spencer's efficiency also suffered this year because of all the offensive load on him due to injuries. The year before, Dinwiddie had really good efficiency as the sixth man, and he shot the 3 better as well. Next year, I expect his efficiency to bounce back in that direction (if he's still on the team).

And yeah, I agree, I'm pretty excited about the coming offseason, I think we're bound to make roster moves, and I don't mean routine minimum signings to fill out the roster. I don't have any hope for something as crazy as Harden lmao but I think we can make some surprise moves of lesser profile.

Yeah agreed haha, don't think Harden is moved til next off-season.

Giannis as well, but they might move him, but if they do, I'm imagining it will be to GSW.

I keep saying it, but if one of Dinwiddie or LeVert is moved, I hope it's LeVert and Dinwiddie is extended. LeVert is probably more valuable league-wide as a trade chip, constantly struggles with efficiency and injury and isn't as good off ball, nor does he have the same potential on defense.

I totally get why if one is moved it's probably Spencer though and that's alright, Caris is also a fan favorite as well.

[vincecarter4pres]

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So this was retweeted by Bradley Beal's wife last night...

[MrDollarBills]

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So this was retweeted by Bradley Beal's wife last night...

Bradley could easily force himself over to the Nets if he chose to. He isn't doing it so....that's on him.

[DarkXaero]

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So this was retweeted by Bradley Beal's wife last night...

Bradley could easily force himself over to the Nets if he chose to. He isn't doing it so....that's on him.

Agreed, I never understood his reluctance to leave the Wizards, when it's clear that the direction of that team won't be positive for a while. IMO, he's just delaying the inevitable.

[DarkXaero]

I wouldn't dismiss Scoop. He seems to at least have sources in the Kyrie camp and he was the first to report that the shoulder injury was much worse than what the Nets let on this year.

Doubt anything is done or close but it's probably a good indicator of guys and pieces were willing to trade. I get the interest in Jrue but giving up Spence and Allen scares me. Those are two sure fire playoff rotation players. 2 durable guys who will for sure get better playing next to KD. Right now, I look at Caris, Prince, and DJ as question marks.

He's also constantly wrong on trade rumors. Just because he got the shoulder injury thing right doesn't change all the other times he has been wrong.

[Godsplan]

OT but does anyone know how to pm someone on here? I kind of have this serious issue(personal and school related) and I wanted to ask some fellow fans for help

[vincecarter4pres]

OT but does anyone know how to pm someone on here? I kind of have this serious issue(personal and school related) and I wanted to ask some fellow fans for help

Just click on anyone’s name and an option to pm them should be available to you.

[Godsplan]

OT but does anyone know how to pm someone on here? I kind of have this serious issue(personal and school related) and I wanted to ask some fellow fans for help

Just click on anyone’s name and an option to pm them should be available to you.

I still don’t see the option when I click your name it just sends me to your profile where the option is still not there

[vincecarter4pres]

OT but does anyone know how to pm someone on here? I kind of have this serious issue(personal and school related) and I wanted to ask some fellow fans for help

Just click on anyone’s name and an option to pm them should be available to you.

I still don’t see the option when I click your name it just sends me to your profile where the option is still not there

Aah, you are correct sir. I just tried clicking on yours, there must be a post count minimum to pm, you’re at 80. I’m guessing it’s 100 our 150.

Time to

[Captain Ballmer]

Scoop B is trash and almost always wrong. That trade doesn't work salary wise, and also seems like an overpay for expiring contract of Jrue. Dinwiddie obviously isn't anywhere near the defender that Jrue is, but he's a better offensive player than Jrue, and throwing in Allen on top of that (who I think is our most valuable asset after the untouchable pieces) shifts this in overpay territory.

But is he though?

And I'm imagining they workout some kind of extension or promise of one before any trade was finalized.

Yes

Dinwiddie vs Jrue


31.2 MPG - 34.7 MPG
20.6 PPG - 19.1 PPG
6.8 APG - 6.7 APG

Advanced
54.1 TS% - 53.7 TS%
2.7 OBPM - 1.6 OBPM
3.14 ORPM - 2.02 ORPM
2.68 O-PIPM - 1.25 O-PIPM
37.3% C&S3 - 36.4% C&S3

So not only is Dinwiddie a better scorer and facilitator in less minutes, he does it on better efficiency. Yes, on raw 3pt %, Dinwiddie shoots significantly worse than Jrue, but that has to do more with Dinwiddie being a poor pull-up 3pt shooter. On catch & shoot 3s, Dinwiddie shoots 37.3% on same volume as Jrue, who shoots 36.4%, and catch & shoot 3s become more valuable next to Kyrie & KD. Then you have other advanced stats which all indicate that Dinwiddie is the superior offensive impact player based on this season. In addition, according to advanced stats, Dinwiddie is one of the top P&R players in the league, and easily superior to Jrue there as well. Add in the fact that Dinwiddie is 3 years younger, and has been getting better each year. As I've constantly brought up Jrue on this thread, you know that I like Jrue a lot, and he is the better overall player than Dinwiddie, but he is not a better offensive player.

I'm sold. Dinwiddie is the scorer&playmaker my Clippers needs. We can't get you a lot but beg at least? Sympathy of second sons? Any of Beverley-Lou-morris-harrell enough to pull the trigger?
Seriously tough, hope you get it going on that East and make it to the Finals before Celtics.

[ecuhus1981]

I'm sold. Dinwiddie is the scorer&playmaker my Clippers needs. We can't get you a lot but beg at least? Sympathy of second sons? Any of Beverley-Lou-morris-harrell enough to pull the trigger?
Seriously tough, hope you get it going on that East and make it to the Finals before Celtics.

I agree, the Clippers are a playmaker away from being almost unstoppable. Spencer is a Cali guy and an iconoclast, his court vision could be that missing ingredient.

[Hello Brooklyn]

But is he though?

And I'm imagining they workout some kind of extension or promise of one before any trade was finalized.

Yes

Dinwiddie vs Jrue


31.2 MPG - 34.7 MPG
20.6 PPG - 19.1 PPG
6.8 APG - 6.7 APG

Advanced
54.1 TS% - 53.7 TS%
2.7 OBPM - 1.6 OBPM
3.14 ORPM - 2.02 ORPM
2.68 O-PIPM - 1.25 O-PIPM
37.3% C&S3 - 36.4% C&S3

So not only is Dinwiddie a better scorer and facilitator in less minutes, he does it on better efficiency. Yes, on raw 3pt %, Dinwiddie shoots significantly worse than Jrue, but that has to do more with Dinwiddie being a poor pull-up 3pt shooter. On catch & shoot 3s, Dinwiddie shoots 37.3% on same volume as Jrue, who shoots 36.4%, and catch & shoot 3s become more valuable next to Kyrie & KD. Then you have other advanced stats which all indicate that Dinwiddie is the superior offensive impact player based on this season. In addition, according to advanced stats, Dinwiddie is one of the top P&R players in the league, and easily superior to Jrue there as well. Add in the fact that Dinwiddie is 3 years younger, and has been getting better each year. As I've constantly brought up Jrue on this thread, you know that I like Jrue a lot, and he is the better overall player than Dinwiddie, but he is not a better offensive player.

I'm sold. Dinwiddie is the scorer&playmaker my Clippers needs. We can't get you a lot but beg at least? Sympathy of second sons? Any of Beverley-Lou-morris-harrell enough to pull the trigger?
Seriously tough, hope you get it going on that East and make it to the Finals before Celtics.

No lol.

But no harm in trying.