Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

[TheNetsFan]

Nobody is giving up a lottery pick for D-Lo. The Lakers tried getting that last season and couldn't.

Not happening guys.

Better to see if he can become an all-star caliber player.

If he can't then don't give him a big contract. Nobody else will give up big money anyway in this cap.

I don't recall the Lakers shopping DLo for a lottery pick and getting rebuffed. Got proof?

If Russell can put up pre-surgery numbers, he'd absolutely be valued at a mid lottery pick and potentially more. He's not netting top 6, but a win now team with a later lottery pick could be in play.

[MrDollarBills]

if you're fine with losing on purpose, by all means tune in for it. Right now we are losing not because the team isn't trying or is purposely tanking. I can deal with this season just like last season. if next season we win 30 games i'm fine with that too. but if we go from here to back to 12 win seasons praying that we draft the next Lebron James, I'm not supporting it.

I'm messing around cause Prokorov called me a fake fan for not wanting to see the team win 15 games next year.

I'm very anti-tank.

I wouldn't trade any of our core players (Dinwiddie, LeVert, RHJ, Allen, Russell) for picks. I will say if we bring back the same team and we're still in the 20-28 win range next year, the core is NOT good enough and we need to start looking into selling high on certain guys. Not saying we should be competing for a chip but with LeVert in his 3rd year, Dinwiddie/RHJ/Russell in their 4th year, Crabbe in his 6th year - we should be making some noise.

I agree. I think injuries have derailed us as of late. Russell missing 10 weeks hurt him badly and the team overall. RHJ being out this long has hurt the team. lets see how we do from all star break til next trading deadline. if we don't see an uptick, I agree we should look to make moves that will upgrade the roster.

[Prokorov]

Nobody is giving up a lottery pick for D-Lo. The Lakers tried getting that last season and couldn't.

Not happening guys.

Better to see if he can become an all-star caliber player.

If he can't then don't give him a big contract. Nobody else will give up big money anyway in this cap.

lakers wanted a lotto pick for Dlo AND dumping mozgov.....

im sure we could get a pick in the 8-14 range from someone for DLo

[Prokorov]

I agree. I think injuries have derailed us as of late. Russell missing 10 weeks hurt him badly and the team overall. RHJ being out this long has hurt the team. lets see how we do from all star break til next trading deadline. if we don't see an uptick, I agree we should look to make moves that will upgrade the roster.

Thats the thing... if you wait until next all-star break then you are selling guys for 50 cents on the dollar.

for Russell and RHJ, trading them now is their highest value because:

-They have 1 more full season under their rookie contract on the cheap.
-The team trading for them would retain their RFA rights
-the team trading for them would have a full year to decide if they are worth the max
-the team trading for them would be able to trade them at the deadline should it not work out

All that goes away if you wait until next years deadline to trade them. Who is going to give you value for Dlo/RHJ if they are just going to be an RFA in 2 months time? why not just make them an RFA offer instead and keep your assets?

For dinwiddie his value is the highest now because:

-He has 1 full year at league minimum left on his deal
-the team trading for them would be able to trade them at the deadline should it not work out
-the team trading for them would have a full year to decide if they are worth the max

Similar situaiton to the other 2 guys. why an i renting dinwiddie for 2 months right before he is going to be an UFA? im going to have ot throw a big deal at him anyway why not just wait 2 months and save my assets?

Trading these guys at the draft would give us 1st round picks, maybe a late lotto pick and not require taking debiliating contract back.

waiting til next years deadline you are getting crap offers.


im not saying trade all 3. im not saying trade any of them. but if you ARE going to trade one/some of them, the time is prior to next season.

and given our cap situation, and that 0 of these guys has shown for sure they are an all-star yet, id move 1 of them. this way you save 10-25 million in cap and get a first rounder.

keeping all 3 is really putting all your eggs in 1 basket. id move 1. and it would probably be russell since:

a) he would cost the most
b) he would fetch the most (probably?)
c) he is the most boom or bust

[IceManBK1]

If hawks waive Ersan Ilyasova we need to pick him up...6'10 of who can stretch the floor.

[IceManBK1]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-brook-lopez-buyout-candidate-prefer-remain-with-team-season/2018/02/09/

Bring back Brook!

[Prokorov]

If hawks waive Ersan Ilyasova we need to pick him up...6'10 of who can stretch the floor.

I dont see why we would bring in ilyasova. He is 31, doesnt fit the long term, and short term doesnt do much for us. I'd rather look for someone younger who may stick. like the look we took at webb

[Prokorov]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-brook-lopez-buyout-candidate-prefer-remain-with-team-season/2018/02/09/

Bring back Brook!

After seeing how Allen looks why would you want to bring back brook lopez? We finally have a center who defends, isnt paid max money, and doesnt need the ball to score.

unless brook wants to play for 8 million and play 20 minutes off the bench i dont see it... and even if he would take that he doesnt really fit the long term vision and he would eat up basically all of our cap space (we only have 13.9 million and thats if we let everyone go)

[IceManBK1]

If hawks waive Ersan Ilyasova we need to pick him up...6'10 of who can stretch the floor.

I dont see why we would bring in ilyasova. He is 31, doesnt fit the long term, and short term doesnt do much for us. I'd rather look for someone younger who may stick. like the look we took at webb

He will turn 31 in May. And he's a UFA after this season. So we can just let him go if he doesn't perform. But he's a solid veteran who's shooting 46.2%fg and 36.5% on 3pters. We can just juse Lin's DPE to sign him.

As for Lopez, he's another candidate who might want to ride out the season with his ex team. So what if we have Allen. We can play 2 fters. Lopez will hang out in the 3 pt line and they can just rotate on the center position when Allen sits. Their games fit. Either Lopez or Ilyasova would be nice pickup for the DPE.

[LKIRNets]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-brook-lopez-buyout-candidate-prefer-remain-with-team-season/2018/02/09/

Bring back Brook!

What sense does this make?

he can't rebound
he can't defend the SnR

We have Jarrett Allen. The back ups are Okafor, Cunningham, Acy, Webb.

We don't need to give mins to another 31 yr. old. This just tells you how much we won that trade.

[Prokorov]

He will turn 31 in May. And he's a UFA after this season. So we can just let him go if he doesn't perform. But he's a solid veteran who's shooting 46.2%fg and 36.5% on 3pters. We can just juse Lin's DPE to sign him.

Logistically it all makes sense i just dont see why we would do it though? whats the upside? so we can maybe win 1 or 2 more games this year? I'd rather that roster spot be left for tryouts for 10-day contracts and G-league guys.

I cant see using the little cap space we have left to sign ilyasova once he expires at the end of the year since he would be 31 by then and not fit a rebuilding team.

As for Lopez, he's another candidate who might want to ride out the season with his ex team. So what if we have Allen. We can play 2 fters. Lopez will hang out in the 3 pt line and they can just rotate on the center position when Allen sits. Their games fit. Either Lopez or Ilyasova would be nice pickup for the DPE.

I get why Brook would want to, i just dont get why the nets would.

I disagree Lopez and Allen fit together. Your going to move a good defensive Center to PF where he wouldnt be as impactful on defense. you then move a great defensive PF to SF where his offense is much worse. Then you put brook at center where we had a good defensive center and now downgrade to brook

C - gets weaker defensive
PF - gets weaker offensively & defensively
SF - gets weaker offensively

the only way it makes sense is lopez off the bench and even then why are was wasting the little cap we have on a bench center?

Ilyasova just doesnt fit. we arent a win now team. if you want a stretch 4 go get a young one.

[Prokorov]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-brook-lopez-buyout-candidate-prefer-remain-with-team-season/2018/02/09/

Bring back Brook!

What sense does this make?

he can't rebound
he can't defend the SnR

We have Jarrett Allen. The back ups are Okafor, Cunningham, Acy, Webb.

We don't need to give mins to another 31 yr. old. This just tells you how much we won that trade.

Exactly. We have Okafor for go to scoring off the bench if we want and he is still super young. we have acy and cunningham to stretch the floor.

and we have our center of the future who has been crushing it as a starter in allen

[LKIRNets]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-brook-lopez-buyout-candidate-prefer-remain-with-team-season/2018/02/09/

Bring back Brook!

What sense does this make?

he can't rebound
he can't defend the SnR

We have Jarrett Allen. The back ups are Okafor, Cunningham, Acy, Webb.

We don't need to give mins to another 31 yr. old. This just tells you how much we won that trade.

Exactly. We have Okafor for go to scoring off the bench if we want and he is still super young. we have acy and cunningham to stretch the floor.

and we have our center of the future who has been crushing it as a starter in allen

Not only young but cheap. Like no one is going to be stupid enough to give him anything more than a MLE. And you have Acy and Cunningham to stretch.

Allen looks like a stud. He's developing quicker than Capela did.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Nobody is giving up a lottery pick for D-Lo. The Lakers tried getting that last season and couldn't.

Not happening guys.

Better to see if he can become an all-star caliber player.

If he can't then don't give him a big contract. Nobody else will give up big money anyway in this cap.

I don't recall the Lakers shopping DLo for a lottery pick and getting rebuffed. Got proof?

If Russell can put up pre-surgery numbers, he'd absolutely be valued at a mid lottery pick and potentially more. He's not netting top 6, but a win now team with a later lottery pick could be in play.

This was widely reported last summer.

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-l-a-offering-dangelo-russell-in-attempt-to-get-top-12-pick-in-nba-draft/2017/06/19/

Nobody is giving up a lottery pick for Russell. I don't care if he puts up those numbers again.

You don't understand the market if you think that.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Nobody is giving up a lottery pick for D-Lo. The Lakers tried getting that last season and couldn't.

Not happening guys.

Better to see if he can become an all-star caliber player.

If he can't then don't give him a big contract. Nobody else will give up big money anyway in this cap.

lakers wanted a lotto pick for Dlo AND dumping mozgov.....

im sure we could get a pick in the 8-14 range from someone for DLo

I'm not sure thats true. I think they were just trying to get a lottery pick and would have done something else to move Mozgov.

Either way we won't know the details.

But there is no way any team is giving up a lottery pick for Russell.

Go and ask fan bases of teams in the lottery if they would do that. They will laugh at you.

You are seriously overrating his value.

[Keith Van Horn]

I’d love to have brook back off the bench. He’s instantly better than Okafor, but we’re going all in on developing young talent, so it makes sense to stick with the Okafor project at the massive discount.

If I were brook anyway I’d want to see if a team like the Bucks, warriors, rockets, etc that really need bench big man shooting and is a contender


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[TheNetsFan]

Nobody is giving up a lottery pick for D-Lo. The Lakers tried getting that last season and couldn't.

Not happening guys.

Better to see if he can become an all-star caliber player.

If he can't then don't give him a big contract. Nobody else will give up big money anyway in this cap.

I don't recall the Lakers shopping DLo for a lottery pick and getting rebuffed. Got proof?

If Russell can put up pre-surgery numbers, he'd absolutely be valued at a mid lottery pick and potentially more. He's not netting top 6, but a win now team with a later lottery pick could be in play.

This was widely reported last summer.

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-l-a-offering-dangelo-russell-in-attempt-to-get-top-12-pick-in-nba-draft/2017/06/19/

Nobody is giving up a lottery pick for Russell. I don't care if he puts up those numbers again.

You don't understand the market if you think that.

Interesting article, especially the end...

However, the details of such a trade are not available, and it’s possible that there is more going on here than what is being reported. For example, hypothetically the Lakers could be hoping to unload the large contracts of Timofey Mozgov or Luol Deng in the deal in addition to obtaining a top-12 pick, which would open up future cap space for the team.

[LKIRNets]

I’d love to have brook back off the bench. He’s instantly better than Okafor, but we’re going all in on developing young talent, so it makes sense to stick with the Okafor project at the massive discount.

If I were brook anyway I’d want to see if a team like the Bucks, warriors, rockets, etc that really need bench big man shooting and is a contender


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Brook literally has no mobility. I think too many of us see, oh his 3, which isn't as great as advertised anymore. But he can stretch it.

Brook Lopez is shooting 33% from 3. Let's recognize this. The guy Sean Marks traded for recently in Dante Cunningham shoots 38% away from NOLA. And shot 39% last season. Brook's high was 34% as a Net.

Brook could not defend perimeter. Just can't. Slows down pace when he's on the floor. While he was killing us, the real guy no one was speaking about was Josh Hart. But it looked like Lopez was killing us b/c of 2 shots and a mismatch inside wit Carroll.

[LKIRNets]

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[School_Kid]

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