The Official Should We Have Signed Thad Thread

[Prokorov]

Also, we know how much we tend to overpay in free agency.

My worst fear would be stuck with

Rondo - we need a PG, and I don't see Conley leaving Gasol and a contender in Memphis and the next best options are Jennings and Vasquez. I could see us giving hiM $20m
Derozen - the SG who can't shoot wanting $25m
R.Anderson - the oft injured PF who really isn't a good rebounder despite his rep and isn't much of a defender. Still seems like a $20m guy based upon rep and new CBA

Rondo / (Larkin)
Derozen / (Ellington)
RHJ / Bogs
Anderson / C.McC
Lopez / (Bargs)

yikes.
SadlyI think we would blow our wad all at once as our FO feels a need to be as good as possible to stay relevant in NY.

how would that be any different then if we kept thad? we would have the same team only with thad instead of anderson.

Much rather go for

Cheap FA* / (Larkin)
Batum / (Ellington)
RHJ / Bogs
Young / C.McC
Lopez / (Bargs)

* Going for RW, Curry, Teague, Holiday in 2017.

again, why cant we do that without thad? just sub in anderson or nene for thad.


this is what i dont get... people say if dont have thad we have to sign all these guys like derozan. but having thad will prevent that. how exactly? everything you can do with thad you can do without thad. we can still sign batum without thad. we can still get a cheap PG without thad. we can still go for westbrook without thad.

[Prokorov]

thad made brook lopez , he made the the team better, he fit in well here, he was paid a decent market price, demarre carroll makes more than him, he wanted to be here, he helped us make the playoffs, he can play multiple positions, he plays with a passion,

i dont see any positives in letting him go

Thad amde brook lopez? didnt brook put up the same/better numbers next to reggie evans? did brook not make an all-star team long before thad was here?

Thad di NOT make brook

[Prokorov]

this makes no sense, i still havent seen anyone comment on who the thad young alternatives were

It's like all of the dumb Knick fans who booed Porzingas. Ok. Who were the Knicks suppose to draft instead?

Dont like Thad. Ok. Who would you like at PF instead?

Dont like Jack. Ok. Who would you like at PG instead?

People live in this make believe world that just because we could have cap space next season that we will be in the running for multiple max players. NEWS FLASH: Durant is only leaving OKC for Washington. We probably arent in his top 3 options.

Trying to sell us Mirza or T-Rob as the starter without being absolutely terrible is not an answer. Thad might not be a top 10 PF but he is light years ahead of these 2.

how much better are with with thad vs. trob/mirza? you think we are some good team cause thad is back? how many wins do you see us having. i dont think us missing the playoffs is unlikely.

Also, we could ahve gone with someone like jordan hill. there are other avenues.

if thad young was a good player id be ok. but he is a mediocure nobody

[CalamityX12]

thad made brook lopez , he made the the team better, he fit in well here, he was paid a decent market price, demarre carroll makes more than him, he wanted to be here, he helped us make the playoffs, he can play multiple positions, he plays with a passion,

i dont see any positives in letting him go

Sorry I missed this but Thad was a zero in the playoffs...

he did made/make Lopez.

Demarre Carroll SHOULD make more than Young(a very good 3D guys is > than a PF tweener with no elite skill IMO)

He helped us for sure but boyy he was a deer in the headlights vs ATL.

[Trader_Joe]

Prok...Even though you said it you still don't get it...or admit to getting.

Nothing changed for 2016 by signing Thad.
If, if, if we need cap space....bye bye Thad, Brook or whoever opts in of our FAs.

What is gained?
Being a better team in 2015-16
Guaranteeing a decent PF as opposed to hoping we got one for the MLE or anytime here after.
Gaining an asset on the court, potentially off the court with his age and relationship with Lopez
Gaining/not losing for nothing a potential trade asset

Seems you admit the only real risk is him suffering a bad injury which you admit is not likely.

So yes....
If the stars come out, want to play together in Brooklyn and yet we can't sign because Thad has either regressed horribly at age 27 or suffers a major injury and thus can't move him, I will eat as much crow as you can serve me but I don't think that is at all likely. SAS didn't have to pass on LMA because of Splitter and I see no scenario where Thad cost us anything....outside of a 2% chance that I'm willing to take that he becomes an undesirable albatross requiring assets to move...and of course there is a realistic need to move him.

All in all the amount of time and effort complaining about a high unlikely scenario is mind boggling...especially as what's done is done and can't be undone.

[Net Sentence]

this makes no sense, i still havent seen anyone comment on who the thad young alternatives were

It's like all of the dumb Knick fans who booed Porzingas. Ok. Who were the Knicks suppose to draft instead?

Dont like Thad. Ok. Who would you like at PF instead?

Dont like Jack. Ok. Who would you like at PG instead?

People live in this make believe world that just because we could have cap space next season that we will be in the running for multiple max players. NEWS FLASH: Durant is only leaving OKC for Washington. We probably arent in his top 3 options.

Trying to sell us Mirza or T-Rob as the starter without being absolutely terrible is not an answer. Thad might not be a top 10 PF but he is light years ahead of these 2.

how much better are with with thad vs. trob/mirza? you think we are some good team cause thad is back? how many wins do you see us having. i dont think us missing the playoffs is unlikely.

Also, we could ahve gone with someone like jordan hill. there are other avenues.

if thad young was a good player id be ok. but he is a mediocure nobody

35-45 wins with Thad
20-25 without him.

Jordan Hill sucks. He is a career backup and is the equivalent of T-Rob.

You keep trying to paint Young as this scrub azz player but his addition is what turned the season around last year. When you have two leadfoots in the starting lineup at Center and SF you need a player like Thad who can be both the ball handler or the finisher in transition. And he is doing that from the 4. You keep saying how he is a terrible defender but he is always among the league leaders in steals.

Thad is a good shooter when he gets to play a secondary role offensively. He was forced into being a primary offensive player last year in Minny when Martin and Pekovic got hurt and his numbers suffered for it. His final season in Philly he was also forced into a primary offensive role and his shooting was down. The seasons he was allowed to play off good offensive players he has shot over 34% from 3. As we have seen from the Lopez/Pierce/Johnson/DWill/KG debacle, playing off the ball is a valuable skill. Guys who can score in secondary roles are valuable, especially on a team with ball dominate guys like Lopez, Johnson and Jack.

Thad usually has a huge advantage in mobility vs opposing PFs. His struggles in the playoffs can largely be attributed to him playing the better version of himself. Paul Milsap. Our depth was terrible at PF last season so we couldnt make an adjustment. Despite this we still took 2 games off the #1 seed.

I think we have a better team this year and we have much better chemistry now that we got rid of DWill.

At PG, Jack has done everything you want a leader to do and he played better then DWill did when he was the starter last year. The problems we had at PG when Jack started was Darrius Morris was backing him up. Larkin is an upgrade at PG over Morris and wont force us to play Jack 40+ minutes like we had to do last season.

SG was a revolving door last season. A good amount of our losses last season were because we couldnt defend SGs. It got so bad that we threw Markel in just to stop the bleeding. Im pretty sure RHJ is going to start at SG and do very well. He cant do any worse then Karasev, Bogs and Brown did. Ellington's addition also improves the position dramatically.

SF is our strongest position with JJ and Bogs holding the position down. I would expect a healthy JJ and Bogs 2nd year to play better then they did last season.

We didnt get Thad until the deadline and we saw how much he improved the position. Add T-Rob into the rotation at PF and we are much better then we were at the start of last season when we had to play KGs corpse and Teletobust at PF.

Center might be the only position we lost talent at but even that is arguable. 2015 healthy Lopez > 2014 gimp Lopez and Plumlee.

I dont know why everyone is predicting doom and gloom for this year. We still play in the worst division in the worst confrence in basketball.

- Toronto got Carroll but lost their best scorer (Lou Will) and defender (Amir Johnson).
- NY has gotten a lot better but still dont look great.
- Philly is still Philly
- I have no idea what Boston is doing with their roster. Im not really worried about Boston

Most of the teams who actually improved in the East are in the Central division and they will cannibalize each others W-L.

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah, Milsap was a nightmare match up for Thad, I'll chalk that one up as an L but overall Thad gave us some good production when he arrived and he opened a lot of eyes on here because he put forth max effort every night. I won't hold an ass kicking from a legit all star PF who is better than he is against him, overall he is a positive to this team.

And also, regardless of Thad getting manhandled, it wasn't his fault we lost that series. Had Williams and Johnson played remotely worth a damn for 75% of that series we could have pulled off an upset. Joe was pretty much done, and Williams dogged it. It is what it is.

[Prokorov]

35-45 wins with Thad
20-25 without him.

I find it absolutely absurd that you think Thad Young is worth 15-20 wins. that is like Lebron level impact.

Jordan Hill sucks. He is a career backup and is the equivalent of T-Rob.

I never claimed Jordan hill was great, but he certainly doesnt suck, and really isnt much worse if worse at all then thad. 12/8 on similar efficiency and with better defense.

You keep trying to paint Young as this scrub azz player but his addition is what turned the season around last year. When you have two leadfoots in the starting lineup at Center and SF you need a player like Thad who can be both the ball handler or the finisher in transition. And he is doing that from the 4. You keep saying how he is a terrible defender but he is always among the league leaders in steals.

Thad didnt turn as around. Lopez and Bogs did.

getting alot of steals doesnt make you a good defender. preventing the opponent from scoring makes you a good defender. obviously steals are great. so are blocks. but a 2 or 3 steals dont make anywhere near the impact of allowing the opponent ot get easy scores. Thad is a below average to poor defender. there really is no way around that

Thad is a good shooter when he gets to play a secondary role offensively. He was forced into being a primary offensive player last year in Minny when Martin and Pekovic got hurt and his numbers suffered for it. His final season in Philly he was also forced into a primary offensive role and his shooting was down. The seasons he was allowed to play off good offensive players he has shot over 34% from 3. As we have seen from the Lopez/Pierce/Johnson/DWill/KG debacle, playing off the ball is a valuable skill. Guys who can score in secondary roles are valuable, especially on a team with ball dominate guys like Lopez, Johnson and Jack.

Thad was NOT a primary option in minnesota. In fact his role in minnesota was the same as it was here. in fact his usage here was acutally higher.

Thad usually has a huge advantage in mobility vs opposing PFs. His struggles in the playoffs can largely be attributed to him playing the better version of himself. Paul Milsap. Our depth was terrible at PF last season so we couldnt make an adjustment. Despite this we still took 2 games off the #1 seed.

and opposing PFs had a big advantage vs him on the other end because he isnt a good defender. and his offense really wasnt all that good outside of the stretch he was hitting 3s

I dont know why everyone is predicting doom and gloom for this year. We still play in the worst division in the worst confrence in basketball.

- Toronto got Carroll but lost their best scorer (Lou Will) and defender (Amir Johnson).
- NY has gotten a lot better but still dont look great.
- Philly is still Philly
- I have no idea what Boston is doing with their roster. Im not really worried about Boston

Most of the teams who actually improved in the East are in the Central division and they will cannibalize each others W-L.

Probably because we are starting a backup at PG, and low level starters at SG and PF. and our starting SF has been on a heavy decline and coming off a season of huge minutes turning 34 or 3 this year. we have 1 player who is top 15 at his position (lopez) we probably have one of the 3 worst shooting teams in the NBA.

[Prokorov]

Yeah, Milsap was a nightmare match up for Thad, I'll chalk that one up as an L but overall Thad gave us some good production when he arrived and he opened a lot of eyes on here because he put forth max effort every night. I won't hold an ass kicking from a legit all star PF who is better than he is against him, overall he is a positive to this team.

What about Thad playing poor defense during the regular season? from a statistical standpoint he was on of the worst starting PFs in the league. He was 30th among PFs in Defensive RAPM. 20 among starting PFs in defensive RAPM in the regular season. with the nets in the regular season he had a negative defensive RAPM (-0.05) It wasnt just the atlanta series.

And also, regardless of Thad getting manhandled, it wasn't his fault we lost that series. Had Williams and Johnson played remotely worth a damn for 75% of that series we could have pulled off an upset. Joe was pretty much done, and Williams dogged it. It is what it is.

Williams and Johnson playing poorly isnt an excuse for thad playing poorly. and i would easily list thad as a bigger reason we lost that series then joe. to me it was deron 1a and thad 1b for why we lost that series.

[kamaze]

35-45 wins with Thad
20-25 without him.

I find it absolutely absurd that you think Thad Young is worth 15-20 wins. that is like Lebron level impact.

Jordan Hill sucks. He is a career backup and is the equivalent of T-Rob.

I never claimed Jordan hill was great, but he certainly doesnt suck, and really isnt much worse if worse at all then thad. 12/8 on similar efficiency and with better defense.

You keep trying to paint Young as this scrub azz player but his addition is what turned the season around last year. When you have two leadfoots in the starting lineup at Center and SF you need a player like Thad who can be both the ball handler or the finisher in transition. And he is doing that from the 4. You keep saying how he is a terrible defender but he is always among the league leaders in steals.

Thad didnt turn as around. Lopez and Bogs did.

getting alot of steals doesnt make you a good defender. preventing the opponent from scoring makes you a good defender. obviously steals are great. so are blocks. but a 2 or 3 steals dont make anywhere near the impact of allowing the opponent ot get easy scores. Thad is a below average to poor defender. there really is no way around that

Thad is a good shooter when he gets to play a secondary role offensively. He was forced into being a primary offensive player last year in Minny when Martin and Pekovic got hurt and his numbers suffered for it. His final season in Philly he was also forced into a primary offensive role and his shooting was down. The seasons he was allowed to play off good offensive players he has shot over 34% from 3. As we have seen from the Lopez/Pierce/Johnson/DWill/KG debacle, playing off the ball is a valuable skill. Guys who can score in secondary roles are valuable, especially on a team with ball dominate guys like Lopez, Johnson and Jack.

Thad was NOT a primary option in minnesota. In fact his role in minnesota was the same as it was here. in fact his usage here was acutally higher.

Thad usually has a huge advantage in mobility vs opposing PFs. His struggles in the playoffs can largely be attributed to him playing the better version of himself. Paul Milsap. Our depth was terrible at PF last season so we couldnt make an adjustment. Despite this we still took 2 games off the #1 seed.

and opposing PFs had a big advantage vs him on the other end because he isnt a good defender. and his offense really wasnt all that good outside of the stretch he was hitting 3s

I dont know why everyone is predicting doom and gloom for this year. We still play in the worst division in the worst confrence in basketball.

- Toronto got Carroll but lost their best scorer (Lou Will) and defender (Amir Johnson).
- NY has gotten a lot better but still dont look great.
- Philly is still Philly
- I have no idea what Boston is doing with their roster. Im not really worried about Boston

Most of the teams who actually improved in the East are in the Central division and they will cannibalize each others W-L.

Probably because we are starting a backup at PG, and low level starters at SG and PF. and our starting SF has been on a heavy decline and coming off a season of huge minutes turning 34 or 3 this year. we have 1 player who is top 15 at his position (lopez) we probably have one of the 3 worst shooting teams in the NBA.

It's a team sport Thad helped make the team better with his hustle and versatile game. He'll look even better this year surrounded by players that give a damn.

[kerry kittles]

Yeah, Milsap was a nightmare match up for Thad, I'll chalk that one up as an L but overall Thad gave us some good production when he arrived and he opened a lot of eyes on here because he put forth max effort every night. I won't hold an ass kicking from a legit all star PF who is better than he is against him, overall he is a positive to this team.

And also, regardless of Thad getting manhandled, it wasn't his fault we lost that series. Had Williams and Johnson played remotely worth a damn for 75% of that series we could have pulled off an upset. Joe was pretty much done, and Williams dogged it. It is what it is.

Joe and Thad both had their issues defensively in that series.

Joe Johnson 16.5 ppg on 47.3 TS%, 7.7 rpg, 4.8 apg, 1.2 TO
Thad Young: 10.5 ppg on 44.2 TS%, 7.2 rpg, 2.7 apg, 2.3 TO

Across the board there Joe was better than Thad and I cannot see the argument Thad was better.

Joe Johnson had the lowest turnover % in the entire playoffs. While his shot was off, his ability to help dictate tempo, limit turnovers was useful against a team like Atlanta.

[Prokorov]

35-45 wins with Thad
20-25 without him.

I find it absolutely absurd that you think Thad Young is worth 15-20 wins. that is like Lebron level impact.

Jordan Hill sucks. He is a career backup and is the equivalent of T-Rob.

I never claimed Jordan hill was great, but he certainly doesnt suck, and really isnt much worse if worse at all then thad. 12/8 on similar efficiency and with better defense.

You keep trying to paint Young as this scrub azz player but his addition is what turned the season around last year. When you have two leadfoots in the starting lineup at Center and SF you need a player like Thad who can be both the ball handler or the finisher in transition. And he is doing that from the 4. You keep saying how he is a terrible defender but he is always among the league leaders in steals.

Thad didnt turn as around. Lopez and Bogs did.

getting alot of steals doesnt make you a good defender. preventing the opponent from scoring makes you a good defender. obviously steals are great. so are blocks. but a 2 or 3 steals dont make anywhere near the impact of allowing the opponent ot get easy scores. Thad is a below average to poor defender. there really is no way around that

Thad is a good shooter when he gets to play a secondary role offensively. He was forced into being a primary offensive player last year in Minny when Martin and Pekovic got hurt and his numbers suffered for it. His final season in Philly he was also forced into a primary offensive role and his shooting was down. The seasons he was allowed to play off good offensive players he has shot over 34% from 3. As we have seen from the Lopez/Pierce/Johnson/DWill/KG debacle, playing off the ball is a valuable skill. Guys who can score in secondary roles are valuable, especially on a team with ball dominate guys like Lopez, Johnson and Jack.

Thad was NOT a primary option in minnesota. In fact his role in minnesota was the same as it was here. in fact his usage here was acutally higher.

Thad usually has a huge advantage in mobility vs opposing PFs. His struggles in the playoffs can largely be attributed to him playing the better version of himself. Paul Milsap. Our depth was terrible at PF last season so we couldnt make an adjustment. Despite this we still took 2 games off the #1 seed.

and opposing PFs had a big advantage vs him on the other end because he isnt a good defender. and his offense really wasnt all that good outside of the stretch he was hitting 3s

I dont know why everyone is predicting doom and gloom for this year. We still play in the worst division in the worst confrence in basketball.

- Toronto got Carroll but lost their best scorer (Lou Will) and defender (Amir Johnson).
- NY has gotten a lot better but still dont look great.
- Philly is still Philly
- I have no idea what Boston is doing with their roster. Im not really worried about Boston

Most of the teams who actually improved in the East are in the Central division and they will cannibalize each others W-L.

Probably because we are starting a backup at PG, and low level starters at SG and PF. and our starting SF has been on a heavy decline and coming off a season of huge minutes turning 34 or 3 this year. we have 1 player who is top 15 at his position (lopez) we probably have one of the 3 worst shooting teams in the NBA.

It's a team sport Thad helped make the team better with his hustle and versatile game. He'll look even better this year surrounded by players that give a damn.

Thad makes us better. but to think he makes us 15-20 games better is pretty absurd.

im not sure we are better this year, id think we would be worse. im not sure anyone we added offsets what we lost. i think it will be similar to last season, probably slightly worse with how our PG situation looks

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah, Milsap was a nightmare match up for Thad, I'll chalk that one up as an L but overall Thad gave us some good production when he arrived and he opened a lot of eyes on here because he put forth max effort every night. I won't hold an ass kicking from a legit all star PF who is better than he is against him, overall he is a positive to this team.

What about Thad playing poor defense during the regular season? from a statistical standpoint he was on of the worst starting PFs in the league. He was 30th among PFs in Defensive RAPM. 20 among starting PFs in defensive RAPM in the regular season. with the nets in the regular season he had a negative defensive RAPM (-0.05) It wasnt just the atlanta series.

And also, regardless of Thad getting manhandled, it wasn't his fault we lost that series. Had Williams and Johnson played remotely worth a damn for 75% of that series we could have pulled off an upset. Joe was pretty much done, and Williams dogged it. It is what it is.

Williams and Johnson playing poorly isnt an excuse for thad playing poorly. and i would easily list thad as a bigger reason we lost that series then joe. to me it was deron 1a and thad 1b for why we lost that series.

Fair enough although I put Joe's putrid shooting %'s as a massive reason why we lost as well.

Deron is 1a, 1b, and 1c. Thad getting whipped like a dog would be like reason 2c.

[Prokorov]

Yeah, Milsap was a nightmare match up for Thad, I'll chalk that one up as an L but overall Thad gave us some good production when he arrived and he opened a lot of eyes on here because he put forth max effort every night. I won't hold an ass kicking from a legit all star PF who is better than he is against him, overall he is a positive to this team.

What about Thad playing poor defense during the regular season? from a statistical standpoint he was on of the worst starting PFs in the league. He was 30th among PFs in Defensive RAPM. 20 among starting PFs in defensive RAPM in the regular season. with the nets in the regular season he had a negative defensive RAPM (-0.05) It wasnt just the atlanta series.

And also, regardless of Thad getting manhandled, it wasn't his fault we lost that series. Had Williams and Johnson played remotely worth a damn for 75% of that series we could have pulled off an upset. Joe was pretty much done, and Williams dogged it. It is what it is.

Williams and Johnson playing poorly isnt an excuse for thad playing poorly. and i would easily list thad as a bigger reason we lost that series then joe. to me it was deron 1a and thad 1b for why we lost that series.

Fair enough although I put Joe's putrid shooting %'s as a massive reason why we lost as well.

Deron is 1a, 1b, and 1c. Thad getting whipped like a dog would be like reason 2c.

im not letting joe off the hook, im just saying you cant excuse thad because others didnt play well. especially with thad being worse then joe, who is getting blame

[kamaze]

I find it absolutely absurd that you think Thad Young is worth 15-20 wins. that is like Lebron level impact.



I never claimed Jordan hill was great, but he certainly doesnt suck, and really isnt much worse if worse at all then thad. 12/8 on similar efficiency and with better defense.



Thad didnt turn as around. Lopez and Bogs did.

getting alot of steals doesnt make you a good defender. preventing the opponent from scoring makes you a good defender. obviously steals are great. so are blocks. but a 2 or 3 steals dont make anywhere near the impact of allowing the opponent ot get easy scores. Thad is a below average to poor defender. there really is no way around that


Thad was NOT a primary option in minnesota. In fact his role in minnesota was the same as it was here. in fact his usage here was acutally higher.


and opposing PFs had a big advantage vs him on the other end because he isnt a good defender. and his offense really wasnt all that good outside of the stretch he was hitting 3s




Probably because we are starting a backup at PG, and low level starters at SG and PF. and our starting SF has been on a heavy decline and coming off a season of huge minutes turning 34 or 3 this year. we have 1 player who is top 15 at his position (lopez) we probably have one of the 3 worst shooting teams in the NBA.

It's a team sport Thad helped make the team better with his hustle and versatile game. He'll look even better this year surrounded by players that give a damn.

Thad makes us better. but to think he makes us 15-20 games better is pretty absurd.

im not sure we are better this year, id think we would be worse. im not sure anyone we added offsets what we lost. i think it will be similar to last season, probably slightly worse with how our PG situation looks

We're a better defensive team the ball should move easier now think young Memphis with Thadeus Young instead of Zach Randolph.

[Kaiser30]

Seriously, Trader_Joe wrapped it up excellently and the vote shows an overwhelming majority that resigning Thad was a good at least solid move.

Seeing Prokorov still quoting everyone, disagreeing with everyone and forcing his opinion on everyone because Thad COULD get injured and therefore not be tradeable while LBJ and Durant COULD consider not only joining forces but also choosing the Nets is kind of annoying to me. Not disrespecting other opinions. But there has to be one point where you simply let it go and calm down. Especially as he has already signed a new contract.

[Prokorov]

We're a better defensive team the ball should move easier now think young Memphis with Thadeus Young instead of Zach Randolph.

I dont see how we are better/much better defensively. RHJ is good off the bench for D but we did lose anderson. Larkin might be better defensively the williams, but not by a large amount. Bogs/Thad/Lopez still have their defensive issues.

how are we anything like memphis?

Tony Allen is first team ALL-NBA defender. Gasol is a year removed from Defensive player of the year. Lee is a plus defender. Conley is one of the better defensive point gaurds.

Comparing thad young to zack randolf seems odd, other then both being lefty they are nothing alike.

Randolf score more, on better efficiency.

Randolf is an elite rebounder, Thad is a poor rebounder

Randolf gets to the FT line, thad doesnt

Randolf is a half couirt player, thad is more an open court player

we are nothing like memphis.

[Prokorov]

Seriously, Trader_Joe wrapped it up excellently and the vote shows an overwhelming majority that resigning Thad was a good at least solid move.

Seeing Prokorov still quoting everyone, disagreeing with everyone and forcing his opinion on everyone because Thad COULD get injured and therefore not be tradeable while LBJ and Durant COULD consider not only joining forces but also choosing the Nets is kind of annoying to me. Not disrespecting other opinions. But there has to be one point where you simply let it go and calm down. Especially as he has already signed a new contract.

I'm responding to others who have responded to me, giving my points and responding to their questions. im extremely calm, unlike some other posters who took to cursing, racial slurs, homophobic slurs, and name calling.

I take some offense to this post. if you disagree with something i said, let me know what it is an tell me why. dont generalize my post and dismiss it, that is kind of lazy and unfair.

Preferring not to sign thad is more then just because he could get injured. ive detailed my reason to pretty great extent. for you to boil it down to that is flat out wrong. and at all reflective of what ive stated. likewise, my suggested path for the nets was never "durant/lebron or bust" and ive stated several contingencies in the likely even we dont land those guys. yet you completely ignore those.

Again...

Not signing thad doesnt prevent us from doing any of the things others mention they want to do now that thad is here. if we dumped thad we could still develop the young guys, we could still look to go after westbrook down the road. we could still look to add guys to help in the interim. none of that comes off the table.

if we struck out on Lebron/durant there are another tier of players. if we struck out on those tiers, then we sign a Thad level player and end up in the same place anyway. To me, there isnt a huge risk and really no sacrafice to not signing thad. There is a huge potential upside on the small chance a couple superstars want to team up and play here. to me, that CHANCE is worth walking away from thad BECAUSE even if we swing and miss we still end up in basically the same place we are now having kept thad.

Keeping thad for 1 year and trying to trade im later to me seems like a bad idea. Why take on the risk/burden of having to move him when you can gaurantee that cap space by not signing him? I could undestand if we were like a 45-50 win team with thad, but that isnt the case.

if you DO believe we are a lock playoff 45+ win team with thad, then I can kind of see where you are coming from. i dont see us as a 45-50 win team.

But please, dont tell me to calm down when im responding with well thought out responses, addressing questions directly posed to me, giving reasons to why i think the way i do.... all the while there are curse ridden tirades all over the thread by other posters.

[Net Sentence]

Seriously, Trader_Joe wrapped it up excellently and the vote shows an overwhelming majority that resigning Thad was a good at least solid move.

Seeing Prokorov still quoting everyone, disagreeing with everyone and forcing his opinion on everyone because Thad COULD get injured and therefore not be tradeable while LBJ and Durant COULD consider not only joining forces but also choosing the Nets is kind of annoying to me. Not disrespecting other opinions. But there has to be one point where you simply let it go and calm down. Especially as he has already signed a new contract.

Didnt you know, this is Prokorov's mailbag. He is the only one who voted no and he is the only one who is still arguing this.

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We're a better defensive team the ball should move easier now think young Memphis with Thadeus Young instead of Zach Randolph.

I dont see how we are better/much better defensively. RHJ is good off the bench for D but we did lose anderson. Larkin might be better defensively the williams, but not by a large amount. Bogs/Thad/Lopez still have their defensive issues.

how are we anything like memphis?

Tony Allen is first team ALL-NBA defender. Gasol is a year removed from Defensive player of the year. Lee is a plus defender. Conley is one of the better defensive point gaurds.

Comparing thad young to zack randolf seems odd, other then both being lefty they are nothing alike.

Randolf score more, on better efficiency.

Randolf is an elite rebounder, Thad is a poor rebounder

Randolf gets to the FT line, thad doesnt

Randolf is a half couirt player, thad is more an open court player

we are nothing like memphis.

He'll also be a better play maker. Except with Brook Deron's passes were always off guys had to create their own shot.

Memphis-lite both Hollins styled rosters.