2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[MrDollarBills]

Any word on McDaniels? Isn't today when Nets confirm?

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June 24 - Nets must inform K.J. McDaniels whether they will exercise his team option for 2017-18. If so, his $3,476,873 contract goes into effect on July 1.

June 29 - Nets must inform K.J. McDaniels whether they will exercise his team option for 2017-18. If so, his $3,476,873 contract goes into effect on July 1.

Then, on June 30 - Joe Harris and Sean Kilpatrick’s $1,051,245 guarantees for 2017-18 kick in. Team option on both.

Wouldn't be surprised if we don't pick up McDaniels option. I think its between him and Goodwin for the same spot, Goodwin has the advantage of being slightly younger and being more talented. I'm not sure if either of them have a future in the NBA.

I'd rather have McDaniels and Goodwin over Harris and Kilpatrick.

[MrDollarBills]

Don't know if this was already posted, but Sean marks did a radio interview on the Michael Kay show on Friday, discussing the draft. A great exchange near the end where Kay asks marks about benching his starters for the final game. Marks basically says FO, none of your business, and that the regular season is just as important as summer league and offseason development for our guys... I loved that last part.

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I heard this on the drive home, it was a great interview and Michael Kay was heaping tons of praise onto Marks and the Nets for the new approach.

I liked his answer to the question. I don't know why we're getting hell for resting guys in a meaningless game, if Miami wanted to make the playoffs so bad they should have won more games on their own time. The idea that the Nets owed it to anyone to deviate from their plan when numerous teams were resting guys is ludicrous.

The Warriors, Cavs, and Spurs burned fans repeatedly all year with some of their stunts. Literally ruined nationally televised games. Yet, everyone wants to bitch about the Nets...

Because some of these beat writers are pathetic homers. More than likely paid in sponge baths by 'Pat' Riley.


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what beat writers? who covers the Nets?

this was a radio interview, which was shocking to me because i didnt think we'd ever get that kind of coverage.

the NYC media is concerned with the Knicks.

[Paradise]

I heard this on the drive home, it was a great interview and Michael Kay was heaping tons of praise onto Marks and the Nets for the new approach.

I liked his answer to the question. I don't know why we're getting hell for resting guys in a meaningless game, if Miami wanted to make the playoffs so bad they should have won more games on their own time. The idea that the Nets owed it to anyone to deviate from their plan when numerous teams were resting guys is ludicrous.

The Warriors, Cavs, and Spurs burned fans repeatedly all year with some of their stunts. Literally ruined nationally televised games. Yet, everyone wants to bitch about the Nets...

Because some of these beat writers are pathetic homers. More than likely paid in sponge baths by 'Pat' Riley.


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what beat writers? who covers the Nets?

this was a radio interview, which was shocking to me because i didnt think we'd ever get that kind of coverage.

the NYC media is concerned with the Knicks.

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[DartboardT]

*yawns at Ira*

[NyCeEvO]

Don't know if this was already posted, but Sean marks did a radio interview on the Michael Kay show on Friday, discussing the draft. A great exchange near the end where Kay asks marks about benching his starters for the final game. Marks basically says FO, none of your business, and that the regular season is just as important as summer league and offseason development for our guys... I loved that last part.

Read on Twitter

I heard this on the drive home, it was a great interview and Michael Kay was heaping tons of praise onto Marks and the Nets for the new approach.

I liked his answer to the question. I don't know why we're getting hell for resting guys in a meaningless game, if Miami wanted to make the playoffs so bad they should have won more games on their own time. The idea that the Nets owed it to anyone to deviate from their plan when numerous teams were resting guys is ludicrous.

The Warriors, Cavs, and Spurs burned fans repeatedly all year with some of their stunts. Literally ruined nationally televised games. Yet, everyone wants to bitch about the Nets...

Because some of these beat writers are pathetic homers. More than likely paid in sponge baths by 'Pat' Riley.


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I don't waste energy or time getting mad at these people who love to take potshots at the Nets. Just keep tabs on them and when the Nets get better down the line, we can just go back and remind them of all of the nonsensical stuff they were saying before just to join in on the hatefest.

[NyCeEvO]

June 29 - Nets must inform K.J. McDaniels whether they will exercise his team option for 2017-18. If so, his $3,476,873 contract goes into effect on July 1.

Then, on June 30 - Joe Harris and Sean Kilpatrick’s $1,051,245 guarantees for 2017-18 kick in. Team option on both.

Wouldn't be surprised if we don't pick up McDaniels option. I think its between him and Goodwin for the same spot, Goodwin has the advantage of being slightly younger and being more talented. I'm not sure if either of them have a future in the NBA.

I'd rather have McDaniels and Goodwin over Harris and Kilpatrick.

I have to be honest. I don't get the KJ McDaniels love. Sure, he's an athletic guy but I don't see what's going to take him to the next level.

39% of his shots come from 3 and he shoots 30% from 3pt range. He's got no mid-range or long two game whatsoever so it's not like he just needs to extend his range (and proficiency) to become a great 3pt shooter. Everything else comes within the paint.

Hinkie is the king of asset management and Morey wants to stretch you into a 3&D player, yet both passed on him super quickly.

If the Nets are keying in on a better player on 1-2 year deal, I'd rather take that $3mil and use it on their contract than re-up with KJ. He reminds of many athletes who make SC Top 10 a few times over a few season (but then are inevitably forgotten) because they are capable of making athletic plays but don't possess much skill outside of that. I can easily see him overseas in Europe doing OK for himself in the CBA or EuroLeague.

[Prokorov]

June 29 - Nets must inform K.J. McDaniels whether they will exercise his team option for 2017-18. If so, his $3,476,873 contract goes into effect on July 1.

Then, on June 30 - Joe Harris and Sean Kilpatrick’s $1,051,245 guarantees for 2017-18 kick in. Team option on both.

Wouldn't be surprised if we don't pick up McDaniels option. I think its between him and Goodwin for the same spot, Goodwin has the advantage of being slightly younger and being more talented. I'm not sure if either of them have a future in the NBA.

I'd rather have McDaniels and Goodwin over Harris and Kilpatrick.

i like goodwin and KJ. but I think harris is a keeper. our best shooter last year and a guy who does it off screens and moves well without the ball. i think he stil has room to grow too. not alot of guys can shoot like him on the move

[Claud]

KJ is a goner IMHO. Jake Wiley is a carbon copy of KJ plus younger... don't think we pick up his option at the end of this month.

I read NI saying that we DO have interest in Porter come free agency... I'm not too mad about that since Porter fits this team's timeline age-wise and also fits skills-wise. It will come down to do you think Porter is a better haul at 25m or whatever rather than waiting for X team to dump X bad contract for a pick/player...

Can we get a better asset by being patient or should we spend our cap space on a young player who fits the team? Curious to see what happens next.

For a second Imagine this young team in 2-3 years time though: Russell-Levert-Otto-RHJ-Allen

[Keith Van Horn]

I'm all for retaining McDaniels because he provides something different from the other wings. One of Harris / Kilpatrick / Acy has to go though. They've all exceeded expectations but the Nets need some space for big man prospects!

I'd say Harris is odd man out of this group. I like Kilpatrick a lot.

[Ror1997]

Because some of these beat writers are pathetic homers. More than likely paid in sponge baths by 'Pat' Riley.


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what beat writers? who covers the Nets?

this was a radio interview, which was shocking to me because i didnt think we'd ever get that kind of coverage.

the NYC media is concerned with the Knicks.

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I know this isn't what angered you about the tweet, but how is Lopez still getting labeled injury prone?

Once I hear people Criticizing Brook for Health issues as if they're s recent thing, I immediately discount their opinion. He's been healthy for 3 straight seasons now. He's had 2 injuries that required major recovery time, but he proved He's not damaged goods. He's played more games over the last 3 years than KD, Jimmy Butler or Paul George, Blake Griffin, and CP3 yet they're the most coveted players of this off season.

And it Sucks because Brook is going to go over there, play 75-80 games and put up 20+ PPG, and everybody is going to be talking about how the Lakers got a steal and how great a player Brook is now that he's finally healthy and put it all together. Like no, he's been doing this for 3 years he just never got any respect.

[Keith Van Horn]

I'm fine letting KJ go, especially if the FO thinks we have a serious shot at getting someone in free agency who plays the same position.

[Keith Van Horn]

And it Sucks because Brook is going to go over there, play 75-80 games and put up 20+ PPG, and everybody is going to be talking about how the Lakers got a steal and how great a player Brook is now that he's finally healthy and put it all together. Like no, he's been doing this for 3 years he just never got any respect.

that's so true. You know that's going to happen. Top 5 center label will be bestowed upon him, while with the Nets he's "Brooke" who? Can this guy rebound? Will he ever play a full season?
Good for Brook though that he'll get the praise he deserves. I will actually follow the Lakers for a bit to see how he fairs. Even though Magic Johnson is a dumbass GM, he did get a solid, committed player in Brook.

(not-so-secretly... I'd love for Brook to come back on a much, much more cap friendly contract to be our big man off the bench)

[Ror1997]

KJ showed nothing but promise last year and was a part of that end of the season run.

I'd much rather let Skil walk. If we ever get to the point where Lin is a combo guard off the bench ( which realistically could happen next year) then Skils role becomes completely irrelevant.

Skil right now is a undersized backup SG who you can't give mins at PG because its too jammed up. There's just no room for him. Harris/KJ can at least play SG and SF.

And we know how important switching on defense is for Marks and KA. Skil is too small, Harris isn't a goof defender. KJ can guard 1-3

[Keith Van Horn]

KJ showed nothing but promise last year and was a part of that end of the season run.

I'd much rather let Skil walk. If we ever get to the point where Lin is a combo guard off the bench ( which realistically could happen next year) then Skils role becomes completely irrelevant.

Skil right now is a undersized backup SG who you can't give mins at PG because its too jammed up. There's just no room for him. Harris/KJ can at least play SG and SF.

And we know how important switching on defense is for Marks and KA. Skil is too small, Harris isn't a goof defender. KJ can guard 1-3

I can see your point on KJ... especially if Lin down the road becomes the point guard off the bench. I just think Skil provides a great shooting punch off the bench right now.

[vincecarter4pres]

KJ showed nothing but promise last year and was a part of that end of the season run.

I'd much rather let Skil walk. If we ever get to the point where Lin is a combo guard off the bench ( which realistically could happen next year) then Skils role becomes completely irrelevant.

Skil right now is a undersized backup SG who you can't give mins at PG because its too jammed up. There's just no room for him. Harris/KJ can at least play SG and SF.

And we know how important switching on defense is for Marks and KA. Skil is too small, Harris isn't a goof defender. KJ can guard 1-3

Agreed. Skil is easily the odd man out here.

Probably followed my McDaniels because of his salary in relation to everyone else on min deals, though I personally liked what he showed when he got minutes.

[DeRoma]

I would love to get PJ Tucker on a short term contract similar to how we did Booker and Lin last season. Would be a good vet to have around plus a good player at the 3-4. Could be a cheaper/smarter option than maxing out Otto Porter.

I'm all for Tucker, been calling for him to be signed for awhile. He competes, doesn't take any mess. My kind of player.

We need tucker bad we desperately need shooters

[vincecarter4pres]

I would love to get PJ Tucker on a short term contract similar to how we did Booker and Lin last season. Would be a good vet to have around plus a good player at the 3-4. Could be a cheaper/smarter option than maxing out Otto Porter.

I'm all for Tucker, been calling for him to be signed for awhile. He competes, doesn't take any mess. My kind of player.

We need tucker bad we desperately need shooters

Tucker is a career 35% 3 point shooter, solid not great.

I like Tucker, but he's going to cost too much and his age doesn't fit in with this core.

Tucker is going to cost 4 full years and upwards of $50 to $60 million.

Why would he come to this team on the cheap when there will be 3, 4, 5... 6 playoff type teams lined up to give him their full 4 year MLE? MLE winds up like 4 years $37 million, likely residing in a place with a massively cheaper cost of living then the Tri-State.

If I'm him I only come here for 4 years and say $55 to $60 million, 4th season an ETO.

Yuck.

[Ror1997]

KJ showed nothing but promise last year and was a part of that end of the season run.

I'd much rather let Skil walk. If we ever get to the point where Lin is a combo guard off the bench ( which realistically could happen next year) then Skils role becomes completely irrelevant.

Skil right now is a undersized backup SG who you can't give mins at PG because its too jammed up. There's just no room for him. Harris/KJ can at least play SG and SF.

And we know how important switching on defense is for Marks and KA. Skil is too small, Harris isn't a goof defender. KJ can guard 1-3

I can see your point on KJ... especially if Lin down the road becomes the point guard off the bench. I just think Skil provides a great shooting punch off the bench right now.

You're absolutely right, Skil is a microwave scorer off the bench. But truth be told, he doesn't bring much else to the table. And if Lin is coming off the bench, I think he just assumes Skil role as being the scorer off the bench, while expanding on it.

If you're moving Lin, He's taking someone else's minutes, and most likely they would be Skils.
Then from there, how do you get Skils minutes? His only valuable skill is being a microwave scorer. All the other players have roles and Skil cant just step in and do what needs to be done.

At the end of the day, Skil is just a role player who can only audition for one role. And if that role is already filled then there's simply no room on the team for him.

[Keith Van Horn]

Don't know if this was already posted, but Sean marks did a radio interview on the Michael Kay show on Friday, discussing the draft. A great exchange near the end where Kay asks marks about benching his starters for the final game. Marks basically says FO, none of your business, and that the regular season is just as important as summer league and offseason development for our guys... I loved that last part.

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thanks for sharing that. I usually listen to TMKS every day, and all they talk about is what a mess the Knicks are. Why can't they give 10 minutes to the Nets every once in a while, get some fans to convert, or casual NBA fans to be more invested in Brooklyn? They sounded very flattering of Marks and to his credit, Marks sounds like he's got his **** together. I wish they would do more stuff on Knicks v Nets on a regular basis.

[DeRoma]

I'm all for Tucker, been calling for him to be signed for awhile. He competes, doesn't take any mess. My kind of player.

We need tucker bad we desperately need shooters

Tucker is a career 35% 3 point shooter, solid not great.

I like Tucker, but he's going to cost too much and his age doesn't fit in with this core.

Tucker is going to cost 4 full years and upwards of $50 to $60 million.

Why would he come to this team on the cheap when there will be 3, 4, 5... 6 playoff type teams lined up to give him their full 4 year MLE? MLE winds up like 4 years $37 million, likely residing in a place with a massively cheaper cost of living then the Tri-State.

If I'm him I only come here for 4 years and say $55 to $60 million, 4th season an ETO.

Yuck.

True, I don't think he'd cost that much. I'd say he'd get Booker type of deal. I don't think, teams will overpay as much as they did from last year that they lowered the salary cap this year.