Around the League 2020 Playoffs

[ecuhus1981]

Man, Denver has a squad. So many young legit stars, so much depth.

Michael Porter Jr. is the real deal

Shades of KD for real.

I don't mean to throw shade, whenever I see MPJ I think of the Knicks. I read an article that their FO thought that Porter's and Knox's talent levels we're the same, and health was the deciding factor. I'm sure lots of other teams regret passing on him now, but boy, was that error a doozy.

[Papi_swav]

Michael Porter Jr. is the real deal

Shades of KD for real.

I don't mean to throw shade, whenever I see MPJ I think of the Knicks. I read an article that their FO thought that Porter's and Knox's talent levels we're the same, and health was the deciding factor. I'm sure lots of other teams regret passing on him now, but boy, was that error a doozy.

I was high on Knox, the way Porter is playing now is what I though Knox would be doing especially after that first summer league stint.

[GTR11]

6's really have huge issues with Ben being out. He just does so much for them some clown azz haters won't admit.

[Papi_swav]

Embiid has to take more than 15 shots. He has to command the ball more and stop watching, get your a$$ in the paint and dominate like Shaq did. This is what Shaq and Barkley was saying at the beginning of the year. 23/11 ain't going to cut it. Does he want to be good or great? He has to average 32 plus points this series to win without Ben. He has the skills to do it.

[vincecarter4pres]

Embiid has to take more than 15 shots. He has to command the ball more and stop watching, get your a$$ in the paint and dominate like Shaq did. This is what Shaq and Barkley was saying at the beginning of the year. 23/11 ain't going to cut it. Does he want to be good or great? He has to average 32 plus points this series to win without Ben. He has the skills to do it.

And I’m going to keep saying it, but this is one of the main reasons I feel like he’s a darkhorse trade candidate for us.

Add his questionable fit with Simmons and his long term health concerns, but then consider they’re not going to look to full rebuild because it would be too hard to not win with the rest of their roster...

Something like Dinwiddie, Allen, Rodi, 3 1st round picks could be exactly what they’re looking for.

Sure a later lotto pick and a prospect looks better on paper, but how perfect are Dinwiddie and Allen next to Simmons, Harris and Horford?

Aside from a straight up trade for someone like McCollum and picks, there won’t be many better fit trades out there, plus the value of the picks, Rodi and the young age of the 2 main players coming back in comparison with Simmons and Harris.

[vincecarter4pres]

Tell you what, there’s only one player in the league I’d take over Doncic for the long term, that’s Giannis.

There’s only 4 others I’d currently take over him:

LeBron
Anthony Davis
Kawhi
Harden

If healthy I’d take KD and Curry too.

That’s it though. I’d take him over even Lillard and Kyrie as well.

[Papi_swav]

So they rejected Porzingis on a bogus technical foul. Hmmm IDK the fix might be in guys. Clippers vs Lakers WCF

[vincecarter4pres]

So they rejected Porzingis on a bogus technical foul. Hmmm IDK the fix might be in guys. Clippers vs Lakers WCF

ESPN has been out for me since the end of the halftime show smh...

[vincecarter4pres]

NBA has gone fukking soft man...

[Paradise]

So they rejected Porzingis on a bogus technical foul. Hmmm IDK the fix might be in guys. Clippers vs Lakers WCF

Bro, that was one of the softest set of technicals I’ve ever seen. Absolutely pathetic officiating.

[therealbig3]

Yeah Mavs would have won that game if KP didn't get thrown out. Such a shame. I think Dallas can potentially pull off the upset.

[therealbig3]

Tell you what, there’s only one player in the league I’d take over Doncic for the long term, that’s Giannis.

There’s only 4 others I’d currently take over him:

LeBron
Anthony Davis
Kawhi
Harden

If healthy I’d take KD and Curry too.

That’s it though. I’d take him over even Lillard and Kyrie as well.

My list currently would be LeBron, Giannis, and a healthy Curry. I think Luka, Harden, and Kawhi are on the same tier. KD is a legit question mark given the injury, so I really have to wait and see how he looks when he gets back.

I don't view AD as highly as you do.

[GTR11]

Tell you what, there’s only one player in the league I’d take over Doncic for the long term, that’s Giannis.

There’s only 4 others I’d currently take over him:

LeBron
Anthony Davis
Kawhi
Harden

If healthy I’d take KD and Curry too.

That’s it though. I’d take him over even Lillard and Kyrie as well.

VC4P saying VC4P things. I still remember how you were telling Russ ( Westbrook ) will never be the player D.Will is back in a days. How did that worked out?
Doncic reached untradable category as of last year. I would send Kyrie, KD and Caris for him in a heart beat without even thinking twice. If we had both Harden and LBJ i would send them with five first round picks along.

[GTR11]

Yeah Mavs would have won that game if KP didn't get thrown out. Such a shame. I think Dallas can potentially pull off the upset.

This Mavs team going to be dynasty. Only blind can't see that. They only couple role players away. Thank God they don't have money like that and Joe loves it here, otherwise I'd be really worried he'd bounce ( I would for sure ).

[GTR11]

So they rejected Porzingis on a bogus technical foul. Hmmm IDK the fix might be in guys. Clippers vs Lakers WCF

Bro, that was one of the softest set of technicals I’ve ever seen. Absolutely pathetic officiating.

I can't believe you guys still don't know the fact NBA will always rig games for money reasons. Mavs will have their time, it's just not right now. And yes they'll force feed us fat azz Zion as a next LBJ until they'll find someone legit ( Doncic and Greek not American born, they can't be face of the NBA. That's what Ramona fat joint Shelborn pretty much confirmed during her interview ).

[MrDollarBills]

Lillard is absolutely on the 2nd tier.

[vincecarter4pres]

Tell you what, there’s only one player in the league I’d take over Doncic for the long term, that’s Giannis.

There’s only 4 others I’d currently take over him:

LeBron
Anthony Davis
Kawhi
Harden

If healthy I’d take KD and Curry too.

That’s it though. I’d take him over even Lillard and Kyrie as well.

My list currently would be LeBron, Giannis, and a healthy Curry. I think Luka, Harden, and Kawhi are on the same tier. KD is a legit question mark given the injury, so I really have to wait and see how he looks when he gets back.

I don't view AD as highly as you do.

I thought about it some after posting that last night and almost edited it. Even currently I think I'd agree with you.

Luka's defense is underrated as well.

And it's not even just knee jerk to the bubble, I didn't even realize just how ridiculous his stats were for the entire season and his efficiency is crazy for a 30% 3 point shooter. His form and elevation is good as well, you can almost pencil in high 30's to 40 within a couple seasons.

And he just gets to his spots wherever he wants, whenever he wants. His breaking down of the D is sublime, as is his quarterbacking of the offense, he almost always seems to find his way to find his teammates in a position for success, even if only setting up the initial pass on a hockey assist.

Add to that his lack of athleticism was straight bunk. He might not jump out of the gym but his first step is lightning, he's super fast end to end, his laterals on D are above average and he moves very well without the ball.

I don't know that I've ever seen another player quite like him, he's like a create-a-player.

I'm with you, I'd only take the following over him:

LeBron
Giannis
Healthy KD or Curry
Maybe Kawhi, but probably not

[vincecarter4pres]

Tell you what, there’s only one player in the league I’d take over Doncic for the long term, that’s Giannis.

There’s only 4 others I’d currently take over him:

LeBron
Anthony Davis
Kawhi
Harden

If healthy I’d take KD and Curry too.

That’s it though. I’d take him over even Lillard and Kyrie as well.

VC4P saying VC4P things. I still remember how you were telling Russ ( Westbrook ) will never be the player D.Will is back in a days. How did that worked out?
Doncic reached untradable category as of last year. I would send Kyrie, KD and Caris for him in a heart beat without even thinking twice. If we had both Harden and LBJ i would send them with five first round picks along.

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean?

I gave him huge praise here.

And wow, my prediction on a player was wrong lol, bet you never got one wrong...

Plus for all of Westbrook's gawdy stats and swag, he's not a player you ever win a title with as a main piece. I'd still take Dwont's peak 3 years over any year of Westbrook if I had aspirations outside the 1st round.

[Stone]

Embiid has to take more than 15 shots. He has to command the ball more and stop watching, get your a$$ in the paint and dominate like Shaq did. This is what Shaq and Barkley was saying at the beginning of the year. 23/11 ain't going to cut it. Does he want to be good or great? He has to average 32 plus points this series to win without Ben. He has the skills to do it.

And I’m going to keep saying it, but this is one of the main reasons I feel like he’s a darkhorse trade candidate for us.

Add his questionable fit with Simmons and his long term health concerns, but then consider they’re not going to look to full rebuild because it would be too hard to not win with the rest of their roster...

Something like Dinwiddie, Allen, Rodi, 3 1st round picks could be exactly what they’re looking for.

Sure a later lotto pick and a prospect looks better on paper, but how perfect are Dinwiddie and Allen next to Simmons, Harris and Horford?

Aside from a straight up trade for someone like McCollum and picks, there won’t be many better fit trades out there, plus the value of the picks, Rodi and the young age of the 2 main players coming back in comparison with Simmons and Harris.

I would be against it.....

What are you really getting with Embidd? An extra 11 Points per game and 2 more rebounds than we get with J. Blocks are about the same, Embidd turns the ball over more. He has also missed a third of his career with injury's. Compared to J missing 10 games. Then add in Rodi and 3 first rounders?

[GTR11]

Tell you what, there’s only one player in the league I’d take over Doncic for the long term, that’s Giannis.

There’s only 4 others I’d currently take over him:

LeBron
Anthony Davis
Kawhi
Harden

If healthy I’d take KD and Curry too.

That’s it though. I’d take him over even Lillard and Kyrie as well.

VC4P saying VC4P things. I still remember how you were telling Russ ( Westbrook ) will never be the player D.Will is back in a days. How did that worked out?
Doncic reached untradable category as of last year. I would send Kyrie, KD and Caris for him in a heart beat without even thinking twice. If we had both Harden and LBJ i would send them with five first round picks along.

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean?

I gave him huge praise here.

And wow, my prediction on a player was wrong lol, bet you never got one wrong...

Plus for all of Westbrook's gawdy stats and swag, he's not a player you ever win a title with as a main piece. I'd still take Dwont's peak 3 years over any year of Westbrook if I had aspirations outside the 1st round.

What it means is how you evaluate players right now and moving forward. There's no way LBJ and Harden has more value than Luka to any team ( with all due respect to LBJ ). Davis would be watching games on his couch right now as he did In years past, Luka made history last night if you missed that fact.
Russ was smart and right direction to go to back than. Both B.LO and Russ would've attracted star players to NYC ( which is attractive in its own ) and we could've build something. Instead we took huge gamble and paid the price for it's failure. And if we being honest, better half of Nets fans flipped flopped in a blink of an eye with that decision. I questioned that decision, to be frank didn't like it. However I did like huge gamble because I wanted to go all in and to this day I think it was right decision to take a trade once D.Will was resigned.
Right now I believe we should take our time and see how things work out next year before we do anything. It'll logical and calculated move. If you consider everything right now, time is on our side.