Going forward to next season and beyond

[Mosdefinition]

Honestly I think having D'Antoni leaving and getting an offensive coach that can design an offense around what we have and not pigeon hole players into a system that always results in failure will do us a world of good.

Claxton should have been viable this series. When Brown was off the floor, Claxton should have been in, and vice versa. The obsession with 5 out basketball did this team no favors. I hope next year we can run a more balanced system with a lot more off ball movement and multiple screens. We should be forcing defenses to scramble to cover our guys, not have them sitting there watching KD, Kyrie and Harden dribble.

We should also be setting screens for KD off the ball and hitting him in his mid range sweet spots. Same with Kyrie.

Thank god MDA is out.

Claxton just looks lost out there sometimes. With harden unable to throw lobs it might have set him up to fail.

Game 7 was about a lot of things injuries lack of execution poor decision making too many attempts to draw fouls a bad rotation etc

[MrDollarBills]

Honestly I think having D'Antoni leaving and getting an offensive coach that can design an offense around what we have and not pigeon hole players into a system that always results in failure will do us a world of good.

Claxton should have been viable this series. When Brown was off the floor, Claxton should have been in, and vice versa. The obsession with 5 out basketball did this team no favors. I hope next year we can run a more balanced system with a lot more off ball movement and multiple screens. We should be forcing defenses to scramble to cover our guys, not have them sitting there watching KD, Kyrie and Harden dribble.

We should also be setting screens for KD off the ball and hitting him in his mid range sweet spots. Same with Kyrie.

Thank god MDA is out.

Claxton just looks lost out there sometimes. With harden unable to throw lobs it might have set him up to fail.

Game 7 was about a lot of things injuries lack of execution poor decision making too many attempts to draw fouls a bad rotation etc

Claxton definitely needs a healthy Harden who can create shots for him. However, I was thinking more about his defense.

Claxton needs to watch how Bruce Brown moves without the ball after he sets a screen.

[MrDollarBills]

We need to get a goon in FA that's not afraid to fight fire with fire. Giannis should be on crutches right now.

Speaking of that play where the ref thought brown pushed giannis and got a technical early in the game. That actually cost the nets the game with the extra freethrows.

I think Harrell would be a good pick up. He won't be back with the lakers more than likely.

The only bigs I think they can get a Myles Turner or God forbid Whiteside or cousins for the minimum.

Turner is a capable 3 point shooter

Harrell isn't a good defender, but we could use rebounding help.

Re: that play, I think the refs overreacted. I don't blame Brown for not allowing Giannis to get off a shot or and 1.

[Suwanee]

Honestly I think having D'Antoni leaving and getting an offensive coach that can design an offense around what we have and not pigeon hole players into a system that always results in failure will do us a world of good.

Claxton should have been viable this series. When Brown was off the floor, Claxton should have been in, and vice versa. The obsession with 5 out basketball did this team no favors. I hope next year we can run a more balanced system with a lot more off ball movement and multiple screens. We should be forcing defenses to scramble to cover our guys, not have them sitting there watching KD, Kyrie and Harden dribble.

We should also be setting screens for KD off the ball and hitting him in his mid range sweet spots. Same with Kyrie.

Thank god MDA is out.

Claxton just looks lost out there sometimes. With harden unable to throw lobs it might have set him up to fail.

Game 7 was about a lot of things injuries lack of execution poor decision making too many attempts to draw fouls a bad rotation etc

Claxton definitely needs a healthy Harden who can create shots for him. However, I was thinking more about his defense.

Claxton needs to watch how Bruce Brown moves without the ball after he sets a screen.

Difference is Brown has this nice little floater so he can shoot over the defender in the middle. Claxton does not have any post move except the hook shot which he misses more often than not.

[MrDollarBills]

Ok. We need to see if there's a team dumb enough to trade for Joe Harris.

[ecuhus1981]

Jim Carrey. I mean Rick Carlisle. We need to be quick before he got snatched up by some other team.

He's a darn fine coach. I don't think we're in the market for a head coach though, and I doubt he'll take an assistant gig. If he doesn't land in Indiana or Portland, my guess is he'll take a year off or broadcast until the right opportunity comes along.

[Prokorov]

Shamet can take a hike. Trade him for a real shooter
.

Shamet shot 39% form three on 6 attemps a game... he did that despite:

- recovering from covid
- a new team
- 2 injuries
-yanked in and out of the lineup

he also shot 39% in the playoffs.

there isnt really anything better then shamet for a role playing shooter. every shooter has cold spells. and shamet defends and isnt just a stand still player.

[Prokorov]

Maybe Claxton can be our starting center next year. I’m assuming he continues to get better. Bringing back Dinwiddie is a priority. I’d like to bring back Blake, Green and Bruce. Keep Mike James as a 3rd PG, outside of that everyone else is expendable.

Claxton will never start at center with Nash as coach. he is strict 5-out with a shooting center. Claxton would need to drastically improve to get those minutes

[Prokorov]

I still feel like this team fits perfectly around the Big 3.

Like were blaming the roster for not doing things it wasn't supposed to do.

First, get Harris a mental therapist.

The only thing I would look at add is a true big. But I really don't think we would play anyone like that in a playoff series.

The biggest add would obviously be Dinwiddie. If we could get him back we could have won this series easily.

Keep Dinwiddie, Brown. Keep Green. Maybe add another big. Thats it.

I agree with this. the biggest issue to me was just not trusting some of those guys. Harris struggled... we have shamet and TJ on the bench, both very much capable of playing playoff minutes.

I think if you can get another jeff green type or a green upgrade that can play the 3,4 or 5, that would be helpful. otherwsie, i like our team.

PJ tucker would be the guy i target.

He clearly is friends with KD/Kyrie/Harden... is a FA, and then the bucks have no one to defend KD.

id give him our MLE

[Prokorov]

Ok. We need to see if there's a team dumb enough to trade for Joe Harris.

all 29 teams would line up to trade for him.

Joe was bad in the playoffs. but this is 100% a "grass is greener" thing. not many role guys around the league are hitting clutch shots or raising their play in the playoffs. even less do so vs. a good defensive team when 2 stars are out and they can focus more attention on you.

for as "bad" as joe harris was in these playoffs, he shot 40.2% from three on 7 attempts a game. He actually shot well the 1st 2 games of this series. he didnt really struggle until we went on the road (common) and Kyrie went down. he did still miss a ton of open shots late in this series. but again, that happens to alot of role guys in big games. that why stars are stars.

Trading joe harris would be really dumb in my opinion.

[Prokorov]

My plan:

1) I dont think we can keep dinwiddie all year. I think the tax bill will be too high. I do think you still try and bring him back and look to clear salary at the trade deadline, even if its trading dinwiddie for a pick and trade exception. but push comes to shove, i dont expect him back

2) Jeff Green wants to stay. he likely wont cost much. Bring him back, keep continuity. Brown would come down to money. if he wants the MLE, let him walk. id prefer to keep him for continuity, but that MLE needs to go to a taller 2-way player. Tyler Johnson probably gets more then we can pay him. Mike James seems like he will need to make alot to afford his buyout situation, i wouldnt count on him back. id hope to get 2 of those 3 back for near the minimum, but i think 1 is more realistic

3) Blake is tricky. id love to have him back, but it probably cost the MLE. and he can probably get more from another playoff team even if we want to keep him. if we do that, then we cant bring in another 2-way guy cause the MLE id gone. I'd love to keep blake and give the MLE to PJ Tucker, but that seems unlikely. I assume with Green back and claxton they would let blake take bigger money elsewhere, and look to add another shooting center like dedmond.

4) I trade our pick this year for a future pick. that pick wont yield anyone good like last year with shamet, and we have no use for it now. deal it for a future lotto protected first, down the line, when it can be higher and we need it more

5) Sign PJ tucker. fits perfect and takes him away from the bucks. if that doesnt pan out, see if its enough for JJ reddick (this is the only situation where id move joe harris). if not, move on to someone like milsap, Rudy Gay, patty mills...

6) Sign dedmon, bring back garret temple, and the g-league guys: TLC/Chiozza/perry/alize. need a vet point guard, but not much out. cant afford caruso, likely need to settle for like jeff teague.

Harden | Kyrie | Harris | KD | Tucker
Teague | Shamet | Temple | Green| Calxton/Dedmon
Chiozza | TLC | Alize | Perry

[Paradise]

Ok. We need to see if there's a team dumb enough to trade for Joe Harris.

Unless it’s for someone like Robert Covington. We shouldn’t be discussing that.

I can’t see anyone helping us get a #1 seed next to the Big 3 that is capable of 40%+ three point shooting besides him. I know he’s not showing up in the postseason like he should but he ain’t Ben Simmons either.

[Gooner]

Ok. We need to see if there's a team dumb enough to trade for Joe Harris.

all 29 teams would line up to trade for him.

Joe was bad in the playoffs. but this is 100% a "grass is greener" thing. not many role guys around the league are hitting clutch shots or raising their play in the playoffs. even less do so vs. a good defensive team when 2 stars are out and they can focus more attention on you.

for as "bad" as joe harris was in these playoffs, he shot 40.2% from three on 7 attempts a game. He actually shot well the 1st 2 games of this series. he didnt really struggle until we went on the road (common) and Kyrie went down. he did still miss a ton of open shots late in this series. but again, that happens to alot of role guys in big games. that why stars are stars.

Trading joe harris would be really dumb in my opinion.

Expectations were too high on Harris with Kyrie out and Harden handicapped, he fell victim to that but there is no need to overreact, he is an elite role player.

[Gooner]

Maybe Claxton can be our starting center next year. I’m assuming he continues to get better. Bringing back Dinwiddie is a priority. I’d like to bring back Blake, Green and Bruce. Keep Mike James as a 3rd PG, outside of that everyone else is expendable.

Claxton will never start at center with Nash as coach. he is strict 5-out with a shooting center. Claxton would need to drastically improve to get those minutes

Capela started under D'Antoni, and he was the one in charge really, Nash just follows his lead, so there might be hope for Claxton starting.

[Prokorov]

Maybe Claxton can be our starting center next year. I’m assuming he continues to get better. Bringing back Dinwiddie is a priority. I’d like to bring back Blake, Green and Bruce. Keep Mike James as a 3rd PG, outside of that everyone else is expendable.

Claxton will never start at center with Nash as coach. he is strict 5-out with a shooting center. Claxton would need to drastically improve to get those minutes

Capela started under D'Antoni, and he was the one in charge really, Nash just follows his lead, so there might be hope for Claxton starting.

D'antoni then moved capella, after a career year, so he could start PJ tucker at center

nash is a moron. he isnt playing claxton he is going to parrot dantoni

nash thinks he did a great job this year. he isnt making changes

[Gooner]

Claxton will never start at center with Nash as coach. he is strict 5-out with a shooting center. Claxton would need to drastically improve to get those minutes

Capela started under D'Antoni, and he was the one in charge really, Nash just follows his lead, so there might be hope for Claxton starting.

D'antoni then moved capella, after a career year, so he could start PJ tucker at center

nash is a moron. he isnt playing claxton he is going to parrot dantoni

nash thinks he did a great job this year. he isnt making changes

They did that because of Westbrook, he needed all the spacing he could get, but you might be right, D'Antoni might think that this 5 out system is ideal, maybe Capela was just a hindrance anyway. Any change should start with Nash though, move him and the rest will fall in place. It's hard to win without a real coach because everything needs to go perfectly to overcome that, and it didn't happen this year. Even Durant going crazy wasn't enough to overcome Nash.

[ecuhus1981]

D'Antoni will leave this offseason, and Nash will likely lose Ime and Jacque as well. He'll add other talented assistants for sure, but Steve had the most decorated staff in the history of the league. I know that each of those guys are better coaches than the sum of our parts, so I come to the conclusion that Nash simply didn't listen to or utilize them properly.

[Gooner]

D'Antoni will leave this offseason, and Nash will likely lose Ime and Jacque as well. He'll add other talented assistants for sure, but Steve had the most decorated staff in the history of the league. I know that each of those guys are better coaches than the sum of our parts, so I come to the conclusion that Nash simply didn't listen to or utilize them properly.

Either go all-in on this philosophy and appoint D'Antoni as a head coach, or find another coach with a different style, but Nash needs to go for sure. Nash listened to hias assistants, but he was always in the line of coummunication with the players and he was making the final call because he is a head coach on paper.

[MrDollarBills]

I still feel like this team fits perfectly around the Big 3.

Like were blaming the roster for not doing things it wasn't supposed to do.

First, get Harris a mental therapist.

The only thing I would look at add is a true big. But I really don't think we would play anyone like that in a playoff series.

The biggest add would obviously be Dinwiddie. If we could get him back we could have won this series easily.

Keep Dinwiddie, Brown. Keep Green. Maybe add another big. Thats it.

I agree with this. the biggest issue to me was just not trusting some of those guys. Harris struggled... we have shamet and TJ on the bench, both very much capable of playing playoff minutes.

I think if you can get another jeff green type or a green upgrade that can play the 3,4 or 5, that would be helpful. otherwsie, i like our team.

PJ tucker would be the guy i target.

He clearly is friends with KD/Kyrie/Harden... is a FA, and then the bucks have no one to defend KD.

id give him our MLE

Tucker admitted that he wanted to come here. I think KD needs to do some heavy recruiting.

[MrDollarBills]

My plan:

1) I dont think we can keep dinwiddie all year. I think the tax bill will be too high. I do think you still try and bring him back and look to clear salary at the trade deadline, even if its trading dinwiddie for a pick and trade exception. but push comes to shove, i dont expect him back

2) Jeff Green wants to stay. he likely wont cost much. Bring him back, keep continuity. Brown would come down to money. if he wants the MLE, let him walk. id prefer to keep him for continuity, but that MLE needs to go to a taller 2-way player. Tyler Johnson probably gets more then we can pay him. Mike James seems like he will need to make alot to afford his buyout situation, i wouldnt count on him back. id hope to get 2 of those 3 back for near the minimum, but i think 1 is more realistic

3) Blake is tricky. id love to have him back, but it probably cost the MLE. and he can probably get more from another playoff team even if we want to keep him. if we do that, then we cant bring in another 2-way guy cause the MLE id gone. I'd love to keep blake and give the MLE to PJ Tucker, but that seems unlikely. I assume with Green back and claxton they would let blake take bigger money elsewhere, and look to add another shooting center like dedmond.

4) I trade our pick this year for a future pick. that pick wont yield anyone good like last year with shamet, and we have no use for it now. deal it for a future lotto protected first, down the line, when it can be higher and we need it more

5) Sign PJ tucker. fits perfect and takes him away from the bucks. if that doesnt pan out, see if its enough for JJ reddick (this is the only situation where id move joe harris). if not, move on to someone like milsap, Rudy Gay, patty mills...

6) Sign dedmon, bring back garret temple, and the g-league guys: TLC/Chiozza/perry/alize. need a vet point guard, but not much out. cant afford caruso, likely need to settle for like jeff teague.

Harden | Kyrie | Harris | KD | Tucker
Teague | Shamet | Temple | Green| Calxton/Dedmon
Chiozza | TLC | Alize | Perry

Why would we pay Brown the MLE when we have his bird rights?