***Official 2021 Nets Offseason Thread***

[NyCeEvO]

Mike D'Antoni is out

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Amen! Fantastic news!

I have no issue with MDA the person and I wish him the best for whatever he does in the future. (And I hope he’s not doing so for health reasons.) But as a coach I wanted him out asap. After he lost out on the Blazers opportunity I thought we’d be stuck with him for the season. The fact that he voluntarily stepped down is GREAT news.

It was no secret how I felt about him. I disliked much about our offensive strategy and thought we could get so much more out of a team that possesses arguably the greatest collection of individual offensive talent in league history. I was appalled that the guy who helped revolutionize NBA offenses with SSOL had us constantly running basic ISOs in the playoffs with occasional variation, consequently making us so easy to defend.

I don’t know if it’s true but I heard that he doesn’t want the expectations that come along with being an assistant coach and that he’ll only really entertain head coaching positions. So in other words, he doesn’t want to do the grunt work that is commonly associated with assistant coaching. I could only speculate that he wasn’t fully invested in being a (hardworking) assistant coach, but now we have confirmation. No wonder why he always sat so calmly on the sidelines as if there was nothing to do…he didn’t want to do the job!

Depending on if we replace him and with whom, I honestly believe our offense can be even more efficient and lethal, especially when it matters most against elite competition.

I hope this also means that our offensive strategy will better complement our defensive strategy by seeking to achieve a better balance of offense and defense in our lineups. Udoka had a good defensive track record before coming to us but I honestly couldn’t get a vibe for what he brought to us, considering how often our lineups favored 5-out offense.

I look forward to seeing what Vanterpool can do (since he doesn’t have to contend with the privilege given to MDA’s seniority) and who will replace MDA. I pray it’s a younger, hungry offensive coach.

[Prokorov]

Mike D'Antoni is out

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Thank god. Hopefully nash is gone by the 1st quarter mark of the season and whoever replaces dantoni calls nash out for being hot garbage

[Prokorov]

If we are going to trade Shamet, we need to bring in JJ Reddick

Yup. if we move shamet, we need a second shooter in place. Cant rely on just harris and TLC has too much negative to play. cant rely on a rookie shooter when we have 1-2 years of championship window left.

reddick makes shamet super expandable. without that shooter, cant move shamet without going through some real bad struggles with guys like TLC

[Prokorov]

Not sure what the Lakers could offer beyond their pick. Same with Dallas.

I’d take Jax Hayes or NAW + a pick for Shamet, 27.

would love jaxson hayes, and his recent arrest may make that more realistic. they also just added val.

[HardenGoat]

I think pelicans will work with us. They are desperate for shooters to put with Zion and get to the playoffs. They don’t needs more rookies either.

[NyCeEvO]

If we are going to trade Shamet, we need to bring in JJ Reddick

Yup. if we move shamet, we need a second shooter in place. Cant rely on just harris and TLC has too much negative to play. cant rely on a rookie shooter when we have 1-2 years of championship window left.

reddick makes shamet super expandable. without that shooter, cant move shamet without going through some real bad struggles with guys like TLC

Yes. I was fine with the Shamet trade because having a second 3pt marksman is a luxury. We’d have the ability to replace Harris with Shamet if Joe is cold or have them play together and watch the defense struggle to adequately defend both.

If we’re going to lose Shamet, we better be replacing him with another shooter like Redick so we can retain that luxury.

If Shamet does end up being traded, I’ll feel a little sorry for him. I thought he could’ve/would’ve been even more lethal last year, but IMO he often looked like he was trying to do too much on the offensive end. He was very aggressive coming off side screens, especially on the right side of the floor. He’s run really hard off the screen and try to stop on a dime to take the 3. It seemed like he was often moving sideways while shooting because his momentum coming off the screens was so great that he couldn’t keep himself completely straight on his jumpshot. I honestly wonder if he would’ve made more corner 3s if he simply slowed down a half step and took a little more time to get into a more balanced and comfortable shooting pose.

Also, while Shamet isn’t a defender, he’s taller and longer than someone like Redick. Any team that would target Shamet as a defender would definitely target someone like Redick probably even more so given his size and lack of defensive agility.

Off the top of my head, an ideal replacement for Shamet could be a Morris twin. With one of them, we’d still have a 3pt shooter but we’d also gain with their added height ability to adequately defend most wings. Although I’d imagine that they might be too expensive to acquire unless they’re free agents.

[gigantes]

The Teflon approach to our public relations has finally worn thin. I believe that there are far deeper power struggles within our organization than the surface shows. D'Antoni probably knew he has zero authority in the war room, and bounced."

Wait... what? Really?
C'est vrai?

Man... dunno if you blokies seen it, but there's a pretty *wild* article circulating these days about why the Nets are so-closed doors.

[MrDollarBills]

While billionaire scum like Jeff Bezos and Richard Branson had a little dick measuring contest to see who could waste money flying up to the troposphere, Kyrie Irving is building solar centers for people in need to access clean water.

[MrDollarBills]

Mike D'Antoni is out

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Amen! Fantastic news!

I have no issue with MDA the person and I wish him the best for whatever he does in the future. (And I hope he’s not doing so for health reasons.) But as a coach I wanted him out asap. After he lost out on the Blazers opportunity I thought we’d be stuck with him for the season. The fact that he voluntarily stepped down is GREAT news.

It was no secret how I felt about him. I disliked much about our offensive strategy and thought we could get so much more out of a team that possesses arguably the greatest collection of individual offensive talent in league history. I was appalled that the guy who helped revolutionize NBA offenses with SSOL had us constantly running basic ISOs in the playoffs with occasional variation, consequently making us so easy to defend.

I don’t know if it’s true but I heard that he doesn’t want the expectations that come along with being an assistant coach and that he’ll only really entertain head coaching positions. So in other words, he doesn’t want to do the grunt work that is commonly associated with assistant coaching. I could only speculate that he wasn’t fully invested in being a (hardworking) assistant coach, but now we have confirmation. No wonder why he always sat so calmly on the sidelines as if there was nothing to do…he didn’t want to do the job!

Depending on if we replace him and with whom, I honestly believe our offense can be even more efficient and lethal, especially when it matters most against elite competition.

I hope this also means that our offensive strategy will better complement our defensive strategy by seeking to achieve a better balance of offense and defense in our lineups. Udoka had a good defensive track record before coming to us but I honestly couldn’t get a vibe for what he brought to us, considering how often our lineups favored 5-out offense.

I look forward to seeing what Vanterpool can do (since he doesn’t have to contend with the privilege given to MDA’s seniority) and who will replace MDA. I pray it’s a younger, hungry offensive coach.

Can we get back to pick and rolls and ball movement? And we don't need to play 5 out when we have three superstar talents on the floor that can shoot threes at an efficient rate. We need a wing defender and a big man that can rebound, defend, and finish with them

[Prokorov]

While billionaire scum like Jeff Bezos and Richard Branson had a little dick measuring contest to see who could waste money flying up to the troposphere, Kyrie Irving is building solar centers for people in need to access clean water.

but of course, no mention of this on the GB. instead its a 15 page thread bashing Kyrie for saying he had no input on the nike kyrie 8, its trash, and they moved forward with it without his consent.

people are like "oh its kyrie being a malcontent again and ignoring his contract"

he could end homlessness with how much realestate he owns in fans minds. especially the racist boston ones

[MrDollarBills]

The Teflon approach to our public relations has finally worn thin. I believe that there are far deeper power struggles within our organization than the surface shows. D'Antoni probably knew he has zero authority in the war room, and bounced."

Wait... what? Really?
C'est vrai?

Man... dunno if you blokies seen it, but there's a pretty *wild* article circulating these days about why the Nets are so-closed doors.

Which one is this? The one that tells the story about how KD was chilling with Lana Rhoades in Barclays and had another girl there at the same time as a spare date?

Listen. I know things get crazy behind the scenes. It's actually more common than you think, hell Shaq and Dwayne Wade both have said that the Miami Heat back in 06 were partying like animals every night during their championship run. I'm pretty sure James Harden's lifestyle hasn't adjusted too much since coming here. All I care about is guys locking in and winning games, which they did until injuries derailed us.

All I ask is Harden show up to camp in shape and the training staff get these 3 guys to next April relatively healthy. The rest will work itself out

[NyCeEvO]

Mike D'Antoni is out

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The Teflon approach to our public relations has finally worn thin. I believe that there are far deeper power struggles within our organization than the surface shows. D'Antoni probably knew he has zero authority in the war room, and bounced.

Even if there were power struggles within the organization, I highly doubt MDA would be concerned by them. He was Harden’s coach and everyone thought Harden set the tone and controlled everything in Houston. And yet MDA strongly advocated for Harden to come to Brooklyn.

To me, what was more likely and IMO was readily apparent is that MDA doesn’t want to do the work of being an assistant coach, let alone a top one. He just wants to oversee a team and have younger assistant coaches under him doing the grunt work.

He’s 70 years old. It’s either head coach or bust for him. He has paid his dues, so he has a right to feel that way.

[DarkXaero]

Some of you have unrealistic expectations about what you want from this team in terms of offense. We already saw GOAT caliber offense (with efficiency) this season. I don't know how much more you can realistically get out of it. There were games where we literally saw perfect offense in the playoffs (game 2 against Boston, game 2 against Milwaukee). You're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you think that iso's won't be a major part of our offense in the future. We have 3 elite iso talents who love to iso, hence iso will always be a major part of team offense, especially in playoffs. It only becomes "easy" to defend against if team is down to 1 star.

[Paradise]

Some of you have unrealistic expectations about what you want from this team in terms of offense. We already saw GOAT caliber offense (with efficiency) this season. I don't know how much more you can realistically get out of it. There were games where we literally saw perfect offense in the playoffs (game 2 against Boston, game 2 against Milwaukee). You're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you think that iso's won't be a major part of our offense in the future. We have 3 elite iso talents who love to iso, hence iso will always be a major part of team offense, especially in playoffs. It only becomes "easy" to defend against if team is down to 1 star.

We need:

- Vet rim protection (Noel?)
- Dirty work wings (PJ Tucker)
- Backup sizeable PG
- More Youth like Clax
- Sizeable stretch 4


I wouldn’t say we can accomplish all that in one off-season but as the extension talks look like it’s going to happen, we should just flat out say those are the areas of need we will have to address as long as the Big 3 is here.

Our offense probably would look even better if we actually could rebound and get stops more often.

[MrDollarBills]

Some of you have unrealistic expectations about what you want from this team in terms of offense. We already saw GOAT caliber offense (with efficiency) this season. I don't know how much more you can realistically get out of it. There were games where we literally saw perfect offense in the playoffs (game 2 against Boston, game 2 against Milwaukee). You're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you think that iso's won't be a major part of our offense in the future. We have 3 elite iso talents who love to iso, hence iso will always be a major part of team offense, especially in playoffs. It only becomes "easy" to defend against if team is down to 1 star.

I have no problem with iso. Take the center, screen the on ball defender and force a switch or attack the drop back coverage.

I just want a tough wing defender that can hit threes and a big man that can rebound, finish and isn't a complete liability on defense.

[HardenGoat]

Some of you have unrealistic expectations about what you want from this team in terms of offense. We already saw GOAT caliber offense (with efficiency) this season. I don't know how much more you can realistically get out of it. There were games where we literally saw perfect offense in the playoffs (game 2 against Boston, game 2 against Milwaukee). You're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you think that iso's won't be a major part of our offense in the future. We have 3 elite iso talents who love to iso, hence iso will always be a major part of team offense, especially in playoffs. It only becomes "easy" to defend against if team is down to 1 star.

I agree with this. Our main obstacle is health and we have a gaping hole to fill at center from a defensive standpoint. If you watch playoff basketball you can see how role players are pretty much taken out the deeper you go. As the refs swallow their whistle the scoring becomes more relegated to those that can create their own shot or blow to the basket. Refs allow a more physical game and this especially affects the moving parts. Players that were hitting staggering 3 point percentages are designated as chokers. You simply can't rely on them or any similar players as a replacement. We have 3 of the best iso scorers in the league. What I propose is doing a trade for Myles Turner. Yes we lose Harris but Turner is a tremendous defender and rim protector and can also stretch the floor offensively. He immediately fixes our biggest problem and makes us a balanced team. We can get 3 point shooting from vets and buyouts like JJ Reddick and get a true 3-D wing with emphasis on defense. What do you guys think? I mean there is no reason to think Harris is really going to help us that much in the post season, I already saw what's behind that curtain.

[MrDollarBills]

Windrem and a few others on Twitter are saying that we may dump Jordan tonight at the cost of a 1st.

[3pt_chucker]

The Teflon approach to our public relations has finally worn thin. I believe that there are far deeper power struggles within our organization than the surface shows. D'Antoni probably knew he has zero authority in the war room, and bounced."

Wait... what? Really?
C'est vrai?

Man... dunno if you blokies seen it, but there's a pretty *wild* article circulating these days about why the Nets are so-closed doors.

Yeah. It mainly stems from a recently published book by Matt Sullivan that has crazy details about the level of control the players(mainly KD) has in the organization and all the stuff that was happening (mainly earlier in the season).

I personally don't really care too much about that kind of stuff tbh.

[3pt_chucker]

Windrem and a few others on Twitter are saying that we may dump Jordan tonight at the cost of a 1st.

I don't mind that as long as it means that we are angling to keep Bruce Brown/Din on the team.

[DarkXaero]

Windrem and a few others on Twitter are saying that we may dump Jordan tonight at the cost of a 1st.

I'm okay with that as long as we get a useful rotation player back or a trade exception that can be used to get a useful rotation player eventually. Terrence Ross' name is floating around out there in trade talks and that would be one of those useful rotation players.