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Kevin Durant needs to either honor his contract or retire

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Should the Nets tell Durant to put up or shut up?

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Re: Kevin Durant needs to either honor his contract or retire 

Post#21 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 6, 2022 1:54 pm

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Claud wrote:Leaning more and more towards calling KD's bluff and trading Kyrie for more pieces.

**** what they want.

We did everything they wanted for the last 3 season and we got jack **** to show for it.(Even gave DJ 40 **** million $)

Unless we get exactly what we want, no trade.
As a fan of a team who's forum has produced a record amount of posts in a period of just three days, I've come to the conclusion after meditating on this that its best for the league short and long term that the Nets do precisely what you suggest.

Its not good for the image of the NBA that teams let this go on. And as much as I want KD, he's a tainted player who has an unpredictable nature that just rubs you the wrong way.

I'm genuinely sorry you guys are going through this but at some point you have to stand your ground and simply refuse (in the most polite and cordial way anyone can).


Agreed. The Nets have to hold Durant to account.
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Re: Kevin Durant needs to either honor his contract or retire 

Post#22 » by gigantes » Wed Jul 6, 2022 2:59 pm

NetsWorld wrote:
Rastas wrote:I really like how the Roster is shaping up and thinking if both stay the Nets are looking good.
Then I start thinking the locker room with these two guy's still in it is a big problem.
Also on the floor I envision them being more and more selfish.
Make the Trade Marks , the team will be fine without these cancers.
Also well done on the last few signings.

??????

The idea is to keep them happy and show them the Nets want to compete for a championship and Marks will do what he can to help them. It's up to them to maintain a positive attitude and spirit.

Excusez mon français, but F--K 'keeping them happy.'

That ship sailed, Holmes. That ship sailed when Kyrie couldn't even take a two-year max to stick to the plan, then KD spazzed out about that.

Not saying we're quite there yet, but the policy of non-negotiation with terrorists is becoming increasingly apt, here. Or better yet-- act like a child, get treated like a child.

Paradise wrote:Lol Retire? That’s dramatic and unnecessary.

Yet somehow it fits.

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Post#23 » by unicron5 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 4:31 pm

I rarely post on these boards any more but I feel the same way 100%.

Tell them both they either show up to training camp and play or they sit out for the full year and lose millions of dollars.

They are both under contract and neither has an incentive to waste a year of their career at this point, even Kyrie needs to put up a strong season to get paid next year, Durant doesn't have many more prime years left.

If they want to behave like babies, so be it, but don't cave of capitulate. You're not going to get a great package for Durant on the open market because any team taking him is going to want an "easy championship", which means you're not getting anyone great back any how.

Let the two of them pout it out for the next few months like toddlers in time out. They have more than enough talent here to go somewhere in the playoffs if they really want to, this isn't like Kobe Bryant wanting out of the Lakers pre-Gasol because he had trash to play with.

If I owned the Nets, I would say I'm not trading either of you, I expect a full season of KD + Kyrie + Simmons. If
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Post#24 » by NetsWorld » Wed Jul 6, 2022 6:00 pm

The more and more I think about it, I like what the Pelicans have. If you can somehow trade Kyrie and KD BOTH to NOP, you can get CJ, Daniels, Ingram and a plethora of picks which will help us immensely. We would still field a very competitive team and you figure take on the next big free agent in a couple years. Tatum and Brown are bound to be free agents eventually; Everyone should pay attention to how Marks is structuring the salaries for the rest of the roster, one and two year deals; he is ready to clear the cap to sign future free agents.
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Re: Kevin Durant needs to either honor his contract or retire 

Post#25 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 6, 2022 6:14 pm

Paradise wrote:Lol Retire? That’s dramatic and unnecessary.


The Lakers told Kobe the same thing when he wanted to get traded to the Bulls with several years remaining on his contract. Kobe viewed the alternative and decided to honor his deal. I see no difference here.

What's dramatic and unnecessary is KD pulling this horsesh*t. Especially when the team is loaded with talent even more than the last two seasons.

Either we get the deal that we want, or KD stays a Net. if he doesn't want to show up, so be it. He can sit as long as it takes for someone to pony up a suitable offer.

I mean if you're fine with Durant walking all over this team and disrespecting fans, that's on you. Everyone is entitled to feel how they feel.
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Re: Kevin Durant needs to either honor his contract or retire 

Post#26 » by Whiskey Slick » Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:11 am

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The Lakers told Kobe the same thing when he wanted to get traded to the Bulls with several years remaining on his contract. Kobe viewed the alternative and decided to honor his deal. I see no difference here.

I always felt like the Nets made a colossal mistake when they allowed Kobe to blackmail them in the draft, threatening to play in Europe if they drafted him instead of trading him to the Lakers. His dream was to play in the NBA, not to dominate in Europe where nobody in America would give a sh*t. He wanted to be Michael Jordan, his hero, and that could ONLY HAPPEN in the NBA. So I would have drafted him and called his bluff. If he wanted to go play in obscurity in Europe, HAVE FUN, but if you wanna play in the NBA you're playing for the Nets. Now I would say the exact same thing to KD, unless some team blows us away with an offer we can't refuse.
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Post#27 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:23 am

**** that snake. I never want to see him in a Nets uniform again.

All he does is run, run, run. Had a perfectly good team here and wants a trade. The talent on this squad is enough to win a title.

Still, I either want Jaylen Brown or Ingram. If we get those guys I would drive the snake to the airport myself.

If not, then buckle up and get ready to play for the Brooklyn Nets until a team gets desperate and gives us a real offer.

I have little interest in actually running it back with this train wreck of a team. But we have no choice.
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Post#28 » by Jay555 » Thu Jul 7, 2022 4:51 am

KD has literally become a keyboard warrior...
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Post#29 » by ecuhus1981 » Sat Jul 9, 2022 3:32 pm

I answered yes to your question, though I do believe that eventually, it will be in everyone's best interests to trade both Kyrie and Kevin.


I do think that If Sean Marks can be patient enough, a legendary trade offer will come from we'll come for this legendary player. Until then, as the OP so eloquently states, Kevin needs to either put up or (at minimum) Shut up. Withdrawing his public trade request is the only way that we are ever going to get commensurate value for him in trade. If we're not trading him for superstar return, we might as well not trade him at all.
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Post#30 » by ecuhus1981 » Sat Jul 9, 2022 3:39 pm

I have to believe that Kevin Durant is just not a smart chess player at this point.

Making that trade request on the day that free agency starts may seem like a power move, but it was the weakest thing he could have done. He may have thought he was sticking the dagger in Brooklyn and, so that we could not attract free agents. He may have thought that we would clamor to trade him for spare parts. But in reality, without your star players fully invested in recruiting complementary free agents, we weren't going to get the cream of the crop anyway.

By demanding out, at the specific time he did, he Painted the team and himself into the same corner. Now, he's got to return, and our depth is not as strong as it might have been if he would have played the alpha role that he claims to want. Maybe that's why Barkley's criticism cuts him so deep. He knows he's not an alpha, he just wants to be treated as one.

If he didn't have sychophants, lackeys and hoopers in his circle of trust, somebody could have told him that this scenario was never going to play out any other way.
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Post#31 » by Netaman » Sat Jul 9, 2022 3:46 pm

I think Kevin Durant needs to either honor his contract or get his preferred destination to put their max offer on the table - just like he got the Nets to do adding Kyrie/Harden.

If he wants to play with Book and Cp3, and those guys want to win a championship together, then Phoenix needs to put their max offer on the table. I know people question Fischer but he said yesterday as of a few days ago Phoenix wasn't willing to trade Bridges and didn't even have all their picks on the table.

I'd tell KD you want Phoenix fine - but here's what the deal needs to be. If they allow Ayton to be out of play that's on them. Then he can get pre-mad at them and demand a trade out before he even gets there.
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Post#32 » by Paradise » Sat Jul 9, 2022 7:52 pm

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Paradise wrote:Lol Retire? That’s dramatic and unnecessary.


The Lakers told Kobe the same thing when he wanted to get traded to the Bulls with several years remaining on his contract. Kobe viewed the alternative and decided to honor his deal. I see no difference here.

What's dramatic and unnecessary is KD pulling this horsesh*t. Especially when the team is loaded with talent even more than the last two seasons.

Either we get the deal that we want, or KD stays a Net. if he doesn't want to show up, so be it. He can sit as long as it takes for someone to pony up a suitable offer.

I mean if you're fine with Durant walking all over this team and disrespecting fans, that's on you. Everyone is entitled to feel how they feel.

This team hasn’t done **** to be telling a HOF and best player in the world to retire at any place. That’s one way to destroy what you built as an attractive destination. You choose to feel. I think and I know. That’s the difference between actual men and adult boys.

There’s absolutely no reason to compare this to Kobe. The Lakers sucked with no way of improving until fleecing Memphis. We are not in that position. We are the team potentially fleeced. Hoping to get a Marc Gasol like prospect in a trade.

We are about to suck with no way of improving. If the hold up over contract length is the issue, I’m fine with KD leaving and Kyrie leaving but that doesn’t mean I have to be fine with our franchise walking over opportunities to contend because they don’t trust Kyrie but they trust fans supporting another 5 years of picks swaps and prospects landing to another team.

If you want to relive the Celtics trade again, with a minimal return because you want to “feel” so much that we would trade Kyrie AND Joe, Curry for a **** sandwich that could hurt the team and franchise through 2030. You are also entitled to that.
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Post#33 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:32 pm

Paradise wrote:You choose to feel. I think and I know. That’s the difference between actual men and adult boys.



:lol: @ this clown sh*t.

Bro you constantly talk about how everyone else on here but you is emotional, but here you are lobbing insults at me because you disagree with me over what the Nets should do with KD. You're all in your feelings and you don't even realize it because your head is shoved too far up your own ass.

Do me a favor, take your misplaced anger at the world out on someone else.
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Post#34 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:40 am

Let's be clear on a couple of things:

1) Kevin Durant is not the best player in the world. He's barely top 10 in terms of regular season individual dominance, because he has to thin-slice his defensive effort so much. In the postseason, he's behind Giannis, Luka and now Steph IMO. I'm on the fence about LBJ and Kawhi, but the point is, he's not king of the hill, ultimate ace up the sleeve that he once was.

2) Kyrie has already ruined our reputation as a free agent destination, there is nothing we can do right or wrong with Kevin's trade request to change that.

Sucking with no way of improving would be a relief, compared to this protracted paper tiger fake contender status. I'm not wishing for it, I don't want us to pawn off our stars for pennies on the dollar. But I'm not afraid to stare into the abyss of NBA irrelevance for the next 5 years. These two petulant besties disabused me of that fear. Whatever Marks can get for them, let's turn the page.
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Post#35 » by Paradise » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:33 am

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Paradise wrote:You choose to feel. I think and I know. That’s the difference between actual men and adult boys.



:lol: @ this clown sh*t.

Bro you constantly talk about how everyone else on here but you is emotional, but here you are lobbing insults at me because you disagree with me over what the Nets should do with KD. You're all in your feelings and you don't even realize it because your head is shoved too far up your own ass.

Do me a favor, take your misplaced anger at the world out on someone else.

Do me a favor and formulate an actual sentence. I give an opinion like everyone else but I don’t go as far up the ass as you or anyone else crying daily. During the season or the off-season. You constantly bitch and moan. Go all over the place for no reason. Emotional takes for no reason. You cried so much before we landed KD that we couldn’t ever land a talent like that and now crying later when he wants to leave. We actually argued over the fact we could land someone like KD since the Joe Johnson trade and since the first Brooklyn struggle rebuild. You have no room to talk about clown ****

You truly are the last one to talk about head up someone’s ass when it’s been up there for years just like half of the board who ran away from the place. You really should learn to walk away when you have little to argue. Again, actual men know this.

Anyone who’s been around knows why I called the corny behavior out and it’s hilarious that you are so delusional you can’t even notice other boards are noticing it which is why they come here far more often and regulars do not. Look in the mirror like Sean Marks and Tsai needs too as well.

This package isn’t going to end well and I don’t want to hear any complaints about it since so many feel the need to roll the dice and start over with no comprehension of where it leads.
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Post#36 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 9, 2022 7:59 pm

Up.

If we don't get enough value back in return for him, he can either honor his contract, or consider himself effectively retired come this October. F*ck KD, f*ck his legacy, and at this point, f*ck whats left of his career.
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Post#37 » by Stone » Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:13 am

I can see us getting any decent return at this point. If we are lucky maybe the Celtics offer still stands. Joe Tsai is between a rock and a hard place.

But the bottom line is we were NOT winning anything with KD. It would be best if we went back to square one and rebuild a culture and brand that we can appreciate.
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Post#38 » by Paradise » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:15 pm

LMAO I think he legit reads this board at this point.

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Post#39 » by Crives » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:42 pm

Netaman wrote:I think Kevin Durant needs to either honor his contract or get his preferred destination to put their max offer on the table - just like he got the Nets to do adding Kyrie/Harden.

If he wants to play with Book and Cp3, and those guys want to win a championship together, then Phoenix needs to put their max offer on the table. I know people question Fischer but he said yesterday as of a few days ago Phoenix wasn't willing to trade Bridges and didn't even have all their picks on the table.

I'd tell KD you want Phoenix fine - but here's what the deal needs to be. If they allow Ayton to be out of play that's on them. Then he can get pre-mad at them and demand a trade out before he even gets there.


From phx perspective, I don’t see why phx would send bkn an offer including Mikal or Cam…. Why would phx put their names out as confirmed offers, and risk upsetting them? I would wait for Bkn to make official offer saying let’s do this specific deal, then phx can accept without risking upsetting their players.

I think this is exactly what is going on with other teams as well.. nobody is going to risk upsetting their players by making the offer to Bkn without knowing the trade gets accepted…. meanwhile the Nets need to know if said player would be interested in playing/extending for them before making an official offer for players on short deals like Siakam/Brown/OG… I think that’s why we have heard all of the bkn trade offers be so ridiculous (KAT + Edwards, Tatum + Brown)… they don’t want to limit market for KD, and in order to maximize return they need to get a bidding war going..
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Post#40 » by Netaman » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:01 am

Crives wrote:
Netaman wrote:I think Kevin Durant needs to either honor his contract or get his preferred destination to put their max offer on the table - just like he got the Nets to do adding Kyrie/Harden.

If he wants to play with Book and Cp3, and those guys want to win a championship together, then Phoenix needs to put their max offer on the table. I know people question Fischer but he said yesterday as of a few days ago Phoenix wasn't willing to trade Bridges and didn't even have all their picks on the table.

I'd tell KD you want Phoenix fine - but here's what the deal needs to be. If they allow Ayton to be out of play that's on them. Then he can get pre-mad at them and demand a trade out before he even gets there.


From phx perspective, I don’t see why phx would send bkn an offer including Mikal or Cam…. Why would phx put their names out as confirmed offers, and risk upsetting them? I would wait for Bkn to make official offer saying let’s do this specific deal, then phx can accept without risking upsetting their players.

I think this is exactly what is going on with other teams as well.. nobody is going to risk upsetting their players by making the offer to Bkn without knowing the trade gets accepted…. meanwhile the Nets need to know if said player would be interested in playing/extending for them before making an official offer for players on short deals like Siakam/Brown/OG… I think that’s why we have heard all of the bkn trade offers be so ridiculous (KAT + Edwards, Tatum + Brown)… they don’t want to limit market for KD, and in order to maximize return they need to get a bidding war going..


is this honestly a real question? if a team wants to get KD then they have to make an offer. it's pretty simple.

if you don't want to greatly improve your odds of winning a ring while CP3 is still a thing that's fine. The nets will wait until someone else has some urgency. whether he holds out or gets traded, without KD the nets aren't winning so there's no reason to take an offer they don't like, as they've shown so far.

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