Official ALL THINGS "2022/23 NETS" Thread

[Papi_swav]

I don't think we really needed all of Patty, Seph AND Joe. I think Nets should of gotten someone else other than Patty. Seph does everything he does better and is younger, we could of got someone else that fits us better. I mean we can never have enough shooting but we have too many one dimensional guys here, if their 3 pt shot isn't falling then they're useless. I'll always love Joey Buckets tho

[GTR11]

Conley is most intriguing to me. We play better with a true PG. The problem with all of these guys is that I would not want to deal Seth or Joe for any of them.

mMLE (6m) still available and Bledso there to be had. Banking on Sumner who actually undersized poor man Giannis is not ideal. Need a veteran who played along stars.

[GTR11]

Read on Twitter

?s=20&t=5ggpgz0EhzJuqmq7zg27VQ

Read on Twitter

?s=20&t=5ggpgz0EhzJuqmq7zg27VQ

Read on Twitter

?s=20&t=5ggpgz0EhzJuqmq7zg27VQ

[Packers+NetsWIN]

I don't think we really needed all of Patty, Seph AND Joe. I think Nets should of gotten someone else other than Patty. Seph does everything he does better and is younger, we could of got someone else that fits us better. I mean we can never have enough shooting but we have too many one dimensional guys here, if their 3 pt shot isn't falling then they're useless. I'll always love Joey Buckets tho

I see your point. But I think Mills was re-signed for a lot of reasons that were not exactly related to his contributions on the court. They may have been more related to off-court things and intangibles:

1.) Mills and Simmons both being born in Australia. I'm sure Nets management though that Mills would be a great role model and mentor for Simmons as Mills is a consummate professional. When the trade of Harden first occurred, "I've got his back," said Nets guard and fellow Australian Patty Mills. "I've always had his back and now I have an opportunity to be with him.". Mills made good on that commitment.

2.) As I already mentioned, Mills is a consummate professional. Mills was the recipient of the Joe Dumars Trophy for winning the 2021-22 NBA Sportsmanship Award. The annual award is designed to honor a player who best represents the ideals of sportsmanship on the court. In a locker room with so many unique personalities, having as many guys with this kind of attitude can never be a bad thing.

3.) It did not require the mini mid-level to sign him and allowed them to save it for a different player when they ultimately use it. I agree with their decision as I would rather have two roster spots be dedicated to Mills and player on the mid-level instead of a player on a mid-level and a guy on a veteran minimum contract.

[MrDollarBills]

It's better to have too much shooting than going back to what we dealt with last year.

[Netaman]

a lot of forget-fullness here that the 1 series we actually needed Joe he blew chunks. For his career, Curry has a higher 3pt% in the postseason (he's 50% the last 2 years!!!) then the regular season and imo he's much more dynamic in having the ability to go to the basket and distribute a little bit.

The Nets needed just one.

If just one more of Joe Harris’ shots fell in the final five games of their second-round series against the Bucks, it could have been the Nets with a 3-2 series lead over the Suns in the NBA Finals right now.

But Harris shot 1-of-7 from deep in Game 3, a three-point loss in Milwaukee that could have helped give the Nets a commanding 3-0 series lead. He shot 2-of-6 the next game, 1-of-7 in the fifth game, 1-of-4 in Game 6 and 3-of-9 in the pivotal Game 7, which the Nets lost in overtime to punch their ticket to Cancun for the summer.

Harris’ development into a more complete basketball player has been well documented and was rewarded with a four-year, $75 million contract. It’s clear, however, there is still work to be done, as he conceded in his exit interview.

“Obviously I’m disappointed. I wish that I’d played better,” he said. “I think there’s a lot of things where you can go back, be a tough critic on yourself, be judgmental, but at the same time, I mean, you’ve got to bring more to the table than just one thing.”

That one thing — his three-point shooting on league-leading regular-season efficiency — failed him under pressure.

Harris shot 50.4% from three in the first round against the Celtics but shot just 31.2% from deep against the Bucks. Harris shot 8-of-16 from deep at home in the first two games of the second round, then shot 8-of-33 in Games 3 through 7, a poor 24.24% from downtown.

im trusting curry > harris big time personally.

[Tha King]

David Duke might be a better player than Cam

Think he is.

Marks continues to do a great job drafting. Wouldn't be surprised if Sharpe, Duke, Edwards, and Cam all end up being rotational players in this league. Gray and Alondes Williams have some potential too.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

i'm not trading Seth unless KD is gone and the season is over. That guy was a lights out shooter and in the playoffs if he was open it went in. he is a much better player than Harris. swap the 2 of them and we beat milwaukee 2 years ago.

I wouldn't want to trade Curry either. But if the Nets did move one of Harris or Curry, I disagree with you. I would much rather have Joe Harris over Seth Curry if I was forced to pick one (I definitely want to keep both though). Harris is the better player. Curry is obviously a lights out shooter from three. But he isn't really a threat attacking the basket. And on defense, he is a liability. Not this last season, but the season before, according to FiveThirtyEight, Curry had the 27th worst Defensive Raptor rating in the NBA last season (I don't know what his rating this past season). And it was obvious watching this past Nets-Celtics playoff series, he was being constantly targeted by the Celtics offense.
I know a lot of players have trouble defending Tatum and Brown but it was glaringly obvious his defense was a killer Harris isn't a lockdown defender either but his size gives him a huge advance over curry on that size of the court.

Read on Twitter

Shooters always in demand. Some GM going to give Seth 4 year 50+ mil and we'll lose him for nothing. Resigning Patty and Joe coming back, makes Seth expendable.

If some think going into this season with Nic and Sharpe is ok, than it'll explain a lot. Got huge problem here.

I'm sorry I'm not following your discussion here. Not trying to be rude, just looking for a little clarification.
In the original post you stated that you are "not trading Seth unless KD is gone and the season is over". So from this post it sounds like you want to keep Curry.

Then in your next post, you stated that a GM for another team is going to offer Curry a large contract and the Nets will lose him for nothing next off-season, making him expendable. So from this post it sounds like you want to trade Curry.

So do you think the Nets should trade him or try to keep him? And if they do keep him this season, do they give him an extension?

Just for completeness purposes my stance was that I wouldn't want to trade Curry, as I said I in previous post. Like Mr. Dollarbills posted - you can never have enough shooters. However, if the Nets were able to find a trade that netted them a solid big-man or a ball-handling point guard, I would have no issue moving Curry for that player. No reason to trade Curry unless a good deal is found.

[Netaman]

I wouldn't want to trade Curry either. But if the Nets did move one of Harris or Curry, I disagree with you. I would much rather have Joe Harris over Seth Curry if I was forced to pick one (I definitely want to keep both though). Harris is the better player. Curry is obviously a lights out shooter from three. But he isn't really a threat attacking the basket. And on defense, he is a liability. Not this last season, but the season before, according to FiveThirtyEight, Curry had the 27th worst Defensive Raptor rating in the NBA last season (I don't know what his rating this past season). And it was obvious watching this past Nets-Celtics playoff series, he was being constantly targeted by the Celtics offense.
I know a lot of players have trouble defending Tatum and Brown but it was glaringly obvious his defense was a killer Harris isn't a lockdown defender either but his size gives him a huge advance over curry on that size of the court.

Read on Twitter

Shooters always in demand. Some GM going to give Seth 4 year 50+ mil and we'll lose him for nothing. Resigning Patty and Joe coming back, makes Seth expendable.

If some think going into this season with Nic and Sharpe is ok, than it'll explain a lot. Got huge problem here.

I'm sorry I'm not following your discussion here. Not trying to be rude, just looking for a little clarification.
In the original post you stated that you are "not trading Seth unless KD is gone and the season is over". So from this post it sounds like you want to keep Curry.

Then in your next post, you stated that a GM for another team is going to offer Curry a large contract and the Nets will lose him for nothing next off-season, making him expendable. So from this post it sounds like you want to trade Curry.

So do you think the Nets should trade him or try to keep him? And if they do keep him this season, do they give him an extension?

Just for completeness purposes my stance was that I wouldn't want to trade Curry, as I said I in previous post. Like Mr. Dollarbills posted - you can never have enough shooters. However, if the Nets were able to find a trade that netted them a solid big-man or a ball-handling point guard, I would have no issue moving Curry for that player. No reason to trade Curry unless a good deal is found.

the 3 posts you quoted were different posters which is i think why there are some contradicting views. i made the original post that i wouldnt get rid of curry unless KD was gone because to me if you are trying to win a championship there's no shooter i'd rather have than him. like i said in a followup post, i think harris cost us a championship so im certainly keeping Curry > Harris.

whether or not curry gets resigned or traded i think depends entirely on the circumstances of the team. If KD comes back and we are trying to win a title the next several years 100% extend him. If KD gets traded i'd still consider bringing him back but it would depend on how he fits with the new group. And if another team makes a good offer for him at the deadline (i think he'd bring back 1 FRP+ on the trade market at the deadline).

[Papi_swav]

It's better to have too much shooting than going back to what we dealt with last year.

Disagree, I rather have 2 way players. We seen what happen against Boston, KD got locked down and seph and Patty was nowhere to be seen because they are so one dimensional. Once KD and Kyrie can't score we're doomed. Seph/ Patty can't defend or take anyone off the dribble, they're just spot up shooters. Boston did a great job in taking away our 3 pointers. Patty or Seph can't even guard me and I'm only 5'10.

[GTR11]

It's better to have too much shooting than going back to what we dealt with last year.

Seth expiring contract, he ain't coming back same way Tsai let Din walk. I'm not ok losing talent for nothing again.

[GTR11]

Read on Twitter

?s=20&t=OEqZDJAuanAlBL3f8KDpDA

not bad at all, he also priorotised being playmaker first. this should be last season for Steve Trash, thinking what Kenny could've done with this kid is criminal.

[GTR11]

It's better to have too much shooting than going back to what we dealt with last year.

Disagree, I rather have 2 way players. We seen what happen against Boston, KD got locked down and seph and Patty was nowhere to be seen because they are so one dimensional. Once KD and Kyrie can't score we're doomed. Seph/ Patty can't defend or take anyone off the dribble, they're just spot up shooters. Boston did a great job in taking away our 3 pointers. Patty or Seph can't even guard me and I'm only 5'10.

Sumner in his last year before getting hurt took 1.7 threes per game shooting 39%, career 33%. O'Neal takes 4.0 threes per game,
making them at 38% last year and career. thats without mentioning both net positive on D.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Cam, Kess, Duke and Sharpe all need to see time next year.

No more washed vets. Lets the young kids play. Give us fresh legs and energy!

[GTR11]

Read on Twitter

?s=20&t=OEqZDJAuanAlBL3f8KDpDA

something to watch for. Tsai most likely will let Marks go after this year. this is dumpsterfire season written all over it. my wild cards in KD and Kyrie ain't even started yet. for his own sake, Tsai better figure this out right.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

Shooters always in demand. Some GM going to give Seth 4 year 50+ mil and we'll lose him for nothing. Resigning Patty and Joe coming back, makes Seth expendable.

If some think going into this season with Nic and Sharpe is ok, than it'll explain a lot. Got huge problem here.

I'm sorry I'm not following your discussion here. Not trying to be rude, just looking for a little clarification.
In the original post you stated that you are "not trading Seth unless KD is gone and the season is over". So from this post it sounds like you want to keep Curry.

Then in your next post, you stated that a GM for another team is going to offer Curry a large contract and the Nets will lose him for nothing next off-season, making him expendable. So from this post it sounds like you want to trade Curry.

So do you think the Nets should trade him or try to keep him? And if they do keep him this season, do they give him an extension?

Just for completeness purposes my stance was that I wouldn't want to trade Curry, as I said I in previous post. Like Mr. Dollarbills posted - you can never have enough shooters. However, if the Nets were able to find a trade that netted them a solid big-man or a ball-handling point guard, I would have no issue moving Curry for that player. No reason to trade Curry unless a good deal is found.

the 3 posts you quoted were different posters which is i think why there are some contradicting views. i made the original post that i wouldnt get rid of curry unless KD was gone because to me if you are trying to win a championship there's no shooter i'd rather have than him. like i said in a followup post, i think harris cost us a championship so im certainly keeping Curry > Harris.

whether or not curry gets resigned or traded i think depends entirely on the circumstances of the team. If KD comes back and we are trying to win a title the next several years 100% extend him. If KD gets traded i'd still consider bringing him back but it would depend on how he fits with the new group. And if another team makes a good offer for him at the deadline (i think he'd bring back 1 FRP+ on the trade market at the deadline).

My mistake, different posters and I got mixed up on that. My bad dude, sorry about that. But I agree there are a lot of outside factors that go into resigning curry like the statuses of KD and Irving

[Netaman]

I'm sorry I'm not following your discussion here. Not trying to be rude, just looking for a little clarification.
In the original post you stated that you are "not trading Seth unless KD is gone and the season is over". So from this post it sounds like you want to keep Curry.

Then in your next post, you stated that a GM for another team is going to offer Curry a large contract and the Nets will lose him for nothing next off-season, making him expendable. So from this post it sounds like you want to trade Curry.

So do you think the Nets should trade him or try to keep him? And if they do keep him this season, do they give him an extension?

Just for completeness purposes my stance was that I wouldn't want to trade Curry, as I said I in previous post. Like Mr. Dollarbills posted - you can never have enough shooters. However, if the Nets were able to find a trade that netted them a solid big-man or a ball-handling point guard, I would have no issue moving Curry for that player. No reason to trade Curry unless a good deal is found.

the 3 posts you quoted were different posters which is i think why there are some contradicting views. i made the original post that i wouldnt get rid of curry unless KD was gone because to me if you are trying to win a championship there's no shooter i'd rather have than him. like i said in a followup post, i think harris cost us a championship so im certainly keeping Curry > Harris.

whether or not curry gets resigned or traded i think depends entirely on the circumstances of the team. If KD comes back and we are trying to win a title the next several years 100% extend him. If KD gets traded i'd still consider bringing him back but it would depend on how he fits with the new group. And if another team makes a good offer for him at the deadline (i think he'd bring back 1 FRP+ on the trade market at the deadline).

My mistake, different posters and I got mixed up on that. My bad dude, sorry about that. But I agree there are a lot of outside factors that go into resigning curry like the statuses of KD and Irving

all good, and i agree. im confident marks knows well enough that curry isn't just a throw in and that he's a real rotation player on a championship team. but the right path to take with him may depend on whether or not we are a legitimate championship contender or not.

[gigantes]

a lot of forget-fullness here that the 1 series we actually needed Joe he blew chunks. For his career, Curry has a higher 3pt% in the postseason (he's 50% the last 2 years!!!) then the regular season and imo he's much more dynamic in having the ability to go to the basket and distribute a little bit.

The Nets needed just one.

If just one more of Joe Harris’ shots fell in the final five games of their second-round series against the Bucks, it could have been the Nets with a 3-2 series lead over the Suns in the NBA Finals right now.

But Harris shot 1-of-7 from deep in Game 3, a three-point loss in Milwaukee that could have helped give the Nets a commanding 3-0 series lead. He shot 2-of-6 the next game, 1-of-7 in the fifth game, 1-of-4 in Game 6 and 3-of-9 in the pivotal Game 7, which the Nets lost in overtime to punch their ticket to Cancun for the summer.

Harris’ development into a more complete basketball player has been well documented and was rewarded with a four-year, $75 million contract. It’s clear, however, there is still work to be done, as he conceded in his exit interview.

“Obviously I’m disappointed. I wish that I’d played better,” he said. “I think there’s a lot of things where you can go back, be a tough critic on yourself, be judgmental, but at the same time, I mean, you’ve got to bring more to the table than just one thing.”

That one thing — his three-point shooting on league-leading regular-season efficiency — failed him under pressure.

Harris shot 50.4% from three in the first round against the Celtics but shot just 31.2% from deep against the Bucks. Harris shot 8-of-16 from deep at home in the first two games of the second round, then shot 8-of-33 in Games 3 through 7, a poor 24.24% from downtown.

im trusting curry > harris big time personally.

I've said this before, so not trying to beat this drum too much, but I think most of these arguments against Joe really whoosh on some key points.

- To me he's a hustle player with ~average NBA athleticism who works hard for absolutely everything. Guys like that are typically good for a set number of minutes to keep them fresh (like 30mpg in his case), and Nash wound up playing him something like 5-6 extra minutes per game in the playoffs. That to me is a predictable, avoidable failure right there, you could see it playing out in game after game, and furthermore, it fits in to Nash's tendency to overplay starters and not keep key bench guys as fresh as they could be.

- Harris is maybe a #3 offensive threat at best, and both series he underperformed, I believe he had to carry too much of the load due to injuries to the top guns, and predictably got gameplanned in to irrelevance. He's not a master of footwork and dribbling like Steph, who can manufacturer clean looks out of almost thin air.

I'll just leave it at that, I guess. Point is, I don't think the idea that 'Joe simply sh-t the bed for no good reason' is valid, and it's annoying seeing so many fans stick to that trope.

As for what to do with Joe, he'll be 31 to start this season, and I wouldn't be surprised if a hustle guy like him starts to slow down a bit or get injured more often. He's got one more season after this one at $20mil, and I have to think that if the right deal comes along to a club in need, Marks might want to pull the trigger, particularly in the wake of trades involving KD&KI.

Joe's done just about as much as he possibly could to develop himself IMO, but there are reasons he was only drafted at #33, even after averaging ~41% on 5 attempts a game in college. I think fans need to stop ragging on him and imagining that he's more gifted than the actual blue-collar player that he really is.

[Papi_swav]

Did LMA retire? He was so great for us and would of been huge for us had he not always been hurt. His mid range shot was automatic ! I don't want him back because he misses too many games and we could of used him in the playoffs. had he been healthy he would of been an awesome fit here. Ah well

[Whiskey Slick]

David Duke might be a better player than Cam

Impressive young player, but if I was him I might consider a legal name change , at least my first name.

How bout Earl?

Earl Duke

Watch on YouTube