***Official 2022-23 Training Camp/Preseason Thread***

[NyCeEvO]

I mean if we're being honest, none of this stuff is new. I just don't understand why he wants to draw negative attention to himself. Like bro, we get it. You're a "free thinker" that feels that science, facts and data are irrelevant. Okay. Fine with me. Do you.

But for f*cks sake, can we just get one season where the focus is 100% hoops??? Just one. That's all I ask.

His sense of self-importance and grandeur prohibit him from NOT commenting on things EDIT: compel him to comment on things.

I'd bet that if someone asked Kyrie if he was a prophet or messenger of some sort, he'd say that he is.

He's a phenomenal basketball talent and the financial aid that he provides to certain causes is commendable. However, so much of it is clouded by his seeming desire to be an outspoken contrarian who thinks being different from others inherently means he's right. While that can been true at times, it is not an infallible ethic to live by.

The irony of him calling certain people pawns when he himself does not critically review some of the significant things he espouses is so palpable.

[Claud]

Here we go again smfh.

I know we have a talented roster, but we still have NASH as our coach + we have these two unpredictable/moody stars to deal with.

The other teams we are competing against have far better coaching + better player structure.

Unless some miracle happens, I just can't see it unless everyone REALLY buys in + we get better coaching.

[ecuhus1981]

Here we go again smfh.

I know we have a talented roster, but we still have NASH as our coach + we have these two unpredictable/moody stars to deal with.

The other teams we are competing against have far better coaching + better player structure.

Unless some miracle happens, I just can't see it unless everyone REALLY buys in + we get better coaching.

I always thought the canary in the coal mine with Nash was Dragic. Goran LOOOOOOOVES Steve, and he has ties to Drazen. He wanted to win here, for Petrovic's old team and playing under his old mentor. So, for him to leave for a smaller opportunity on a lesser team speaks volumes.

On the court, his loss won't mean much, if Irving, Mills and Curry are mostly healthy. But The Dragon knows this organization is mercurial AF due to their 2 biggest stars.

[TheNetsFan]

Here we go again smfh.

I know we have a talented roster, but we still have NASH as our coach + we have these two unpredictable/moody stars to deal with.

The other teams we are competing against have far better coaching + better player structure.

Unless some miracle happens, I just can't see it unless everyone REALLY buys in + we get better coaching.

I always thought the canary in the coal mine with Nash was Dragic. Goran LOOOOOOOVES Steve, and he has ties to Drazen. He wanted to win here, for Petrovic's old team and playing under his old mentor. So, for him to leave for a smaller opportunity on a lesser team speaks volumes.

On the court, his loss won't mean much, if Irving, Mills and Curry are mostly healthy. But The Dragon knows this organization is mercurial AF due to their 2 biggest stars.

Has Dragic ever left a place on good terms? He's never happy on his way out.

[Gooner]

Ben Simmons should be used as a point center this season. In a switching defense he is perfect for that position, and offensively it could be unstoppable. Imagine Simmons pushing the ball in the middle with KD, Kyrie, and Harris running with him. Huge potential. He can also be a screener and kill teams on a short roll with his passing, a la Draymond Green, or force them to switch. Kyrie, Harris,O'Neale, KD and Simmons, that should be the starting lineup. That team could win it all just based on offensive firepower.

[MrDollarBills]

Here we go again smfh.

I know we have a talented roster, but we still have NASH as our coach + we have these two unpredictable/moody stars to deal with.

The other teams we are competing against have far better coaching + better player structure.

Unless some miracle happens, I just can't see it unless everyone REALLY buys in + we get better coaching.

I always thought the canary in the coal mine with Nash was Dragic. Goran LOOOOOOOVES Steve, and he has ties to Drazen. He wanted to win here, for Petrovic's old team and playing under his old mentor. So, for him to leave for a smaller opportunity on a lesser team speaks volumes.

On the court, his loss won't mean much, if Irving, Mills and Curry are mostly healthy. But The Dragon knows this organization is mercurial AF due to their 2 biggest stars.

Has Dragic ever left a place on good terms? He's never happy on his way out.

Seeing how absolutely unprofessional this team was when he came on board, i think him being upset was warranted.

[ecuhus1981]

Ben Simmons should be used as a point center this season. In a switching defense he is perfect for that position, and offensively it could be unstoppable. Imagine Simmons pushing the ball in the middle with KD, Kyrie, and Harris running with him. Huge potential. He can also be a screener and kill teams on a short roll with his passing, a la Draymond Green, or force them to switch. Kyrie, Harris,O'Neale, KD and Simmons, that should be the starting lineup. That team could win it all just based on offensive firepower.

I agree that this starting lineup makes the most sense, BUT not with all of your rationale.

Ben can't be the true 5 for us, his back won't take the pounding of man defense on the low block. I think that we brought Royce here to be our new school 5. Despite his 6'4" height, he's a really good post defender. I think the idea will be for him to force an opposing center in the direction of Kevin or Ben, who can provide great help defense at the rim.

Also, I think we'll be better defensively with Joe at the 2 full time. He's had to guard up a position for the past 4 years, and give up size and length in the process. I tentatively hope this will be his best season by defensive metrics.

[Gooner]

Ben Simmons should be used as a point center this season. In a switching defense he is perfect for that position, and offensively it could be unstoppable. Imagine Simmons pushing the ball in the middle with KD, Kyrie, and Harris running with him. Huge potential. He can also be a screener and kill teams on a short roll with his passing, a la Draymond Green, or force them to switch. Kyrie, Harris,O'Neale, KD and Simmons, that should be the starting lineup. That team could win it all just based on offensive firepower.

I agree that this starting lineup makes the most sense, BUT not with all of your rationale.

Ben can't be the true 5 for us, his back won't take the pounding of man defense on the low block. I think that we brought Royce here to be our new school 5. Despite his 6'4" height, he's a really good post defender. I think the idea will be for him to force an opposing center in the direction of Kevin or Ben, who can provide great help defense at the rim.

Also, I think we'll be better defensively with Joe at the 2 full time. He's had to guard up a position for the past 4 years, and give up size and length in the process. I tentatively hope this will be his best season by defensive metrics.

You don't have to play with the true 5, especially in this era. Force other teams to adjust, that's the way for this team. There aren't many post players these days, but for those kinds of matchups, you can throw Markieff Morris out there.

[MrDollarBills]

I think we should use Ben as a situational 5. Asking him to play 5 full time is just a non starter.

[Paradise]

I think we should use Ben as a situational 5. Asking him to play 5 full time is just a non starter.

It would honestly be a fireable offense to have a full time role for Simmons as a center straight off back surgery.

I think we will end up signing Dwight Howard.

[Gooner]

I think we should use Ben as a situational 5. Asking him to play 5 full time is just a non starter.

It would honestly be a fireable offense to have a full time role for Simmons as a center straight off back surgery.

I think we will end up signing Dwight Howard.

I haven't seen any evidence so far that Nash wants a traditional center. Nash uses switch defense, like most teams today, and Simmons is perfect for that. Only center today that would post Simmons up is Embiid, and that will be the biggest test for Nets small ball, but against all other teams, small ball will work for sure. Offensively, Simmons needs to be in the middle, he needs to be used as a playmaker and he needs spacing. A traditional center like Howard would be a waste of space.

[NetsWorld]

I hope Marks/Tsai are paying attention to the Udoka situation, if they get this guy a nice contract at least as an Assistant Coach, he would be the biggest pick up and upgrade of the off season. C'mon guys, we are so close to replicating the 20-21 unbeatable team again. We really need to pounce on this move and make it happen. Nash is not a championship caliber coach.....Yet.

[NyCeEvO]

I think we should use Ben as a situational 5. Asking him to play 5 full time is just a non starter.

It would honestly be a fireable offense to have a full time role for Simmons as a center straight off back surgery.

I think we will end up signing Dwight Howard.

We had KD be our primary defender and #1 scorer immediately after coming back from Achilles surgery.

How many "fireable offense" situations have we endured over the past few seasons only to realize that people aren't getting fired.

Nothing surprises me about this team anymore...nothing.

[MrDollarBills]

Media Day is tomorrow. Durant and Kyrie need to shut the f*ck up say little as possible, and smile for their team photos. Don't turn this into a sh*t show, they've already embarrassed this franchise and fanbase enough as is.

I don't need to hear Durant's reasons for asking for a trade, i don't need to hear conspiracy theories about vaccines. Just canned responses to gotcha questions and "I'm excited to start the season"

[Paradise]

I think we should use Ben as a situational 5. Asking him to play 5 full time is just a non starter.

It would honestly be a fireable offense to have a full time role for Simmons as a center straight off back surgery.

I think we will end up signing Dwight Howard.

We had KD be our primary defender and #1 scorer immediately after coming back from Achilles surgery.

How many "fireable offense" situations have we endured over the past few seasons only to realize that people aren't getting fired.

Nothing surprises me about this team anymore...nothing.

Yeah but look at the schedule. He’s going at Embiid and Bam in the first two preseason games at center? Lol

I honestly think it’s disrespectful to believe he will be Rudy Gobert for 48 minutes at Center and if this is truly what Nash and Marks expect. I truly get why KD wanted them fired.

I get we have a unique guy like Simmons who COULD play 1-5 but it doesn’t mean it’s a good idea for a starting lineup. The fact we haven’t added a Drummond replacement or 3 point shooting center is also scary to me.

[MrDollarBills]

It would honestly be a fireable offense to have a full time role for Simmons as a center straight off back surgery.

I think we will end up signing Dwight Howard.

We had KD be our primary defender and #1 scorer immediately after coming back from Achilles surgery.

How many "fireable offense" situations have we endured over the past few seasons only to realize that people aren't getting fired.

Nothing surprises me about this team anymore...nothing.

Yeah but look at the schedule. He’s going at Embiid and Bam in the first two preseason games at center? Lol

I honestly think it’s disrespectful to believe he will be Rudy Gobert for 48 minutes at Center and if this is truly what Nash and Marks expect. I truly get why KD wanted them fired.

I get we have a unique guy like Simmons who COULD play 1-5 but it doesn’t mean it’s a good idea for a starting lineup. The fact we haven’t added a Drummond replacement or 3 point shooting center is also scary to me.

Yeah I don't know what Marks is doing with the center position. I can live if we don't have a C that can shoot threes, but we do need someone with significant size for match up purposes.

[Paradise]

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[MGrand15]

I think the plan is to roll with Claxton at starting center. Dayron as backup C if the team is big. Morris at backup if the team is small. We just have to double big centers hard and hope that our length causes havoc.

KD and Ben would be the bigs if we want maximum offense against a small lineup in crunch time. Not a regular thing.

[3pt_chucker]

I think the plan is to roll with Claxton at starting center. Dayron as backup C if the team is big. Morris at backup if the team is small. We just have to double big centers hard and hope that our length causes havoc.

KD and Ben would be the bigs if we want maximum offense against a small lineup in crunch time. Not a regular thing.

Exactly this. Nets can probably get a bruising big at any point in the season if needed because of injuries.

The roster just fits really well. Yes, they are undersized at the C spot, but there are less than 5 teams that is an actual problem against. Teams will have to adjust to the Nets shooting, pace and versatility.

[MrDollarBills]

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Perfect answer. Also, there is no way in hell he could have looked at this roster on paper and found a more perfect situation for him.