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Post#21 » by JoseRizal » Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:27 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:Another underrated part is our passing. It just flows so much better.

While Cam is commendable in being a backup PG, my only complain is he still tends to miss open shooters. There were a lot of instances where Seth is wide open, but Cam decides to go the other way.


Cams tunnel vision does need to improved upon but overall I think he's still a positive since his offensive creation is something we just don't have without Kyrie out there.

Defensive consistency is where I'd like to see him focus on since if he's playing consistent D with being Cam on offense that's a good player.


We sure need Cam as a shot maker as outside of KD & Kyrie, we only have him and TJ (when he comes backs) as capable creators.
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Post#22 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:32 am

I know Kyrie would never agree but if he would come of the bench we could build something here , often I got an impression when him and KD together on the floor we got to much ISO and not enough ball movement, we are way to predictable
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Post#23 » by KnixtapeH20 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:48 am

Can't say good game but lol homeless Durant still got it
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Post#24 » by JoseRizal » Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:00 am

https://fb.watch/gIfvqp7zQF/

The mood in the locker room is fire. Love KD's gesture...
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Post#25 » by MGrand15 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:04 am

I almost forgot what a decent coach looked like. Almost fell off my chair when Vaughn called a timeout after a 5-0 run 1 minute into the 3rd quarter. Everytime the Knicks had some momentum, he called a time out.

Claxton has been amazing. He's not playing that much because Ben is the backup center but I just love his game right now. He's stronger. His conditioning is A1. He's bringing the energy every game. Making smart plays. Love it.

Ben looked better today. Still not good enough though. We're surrounding him with 4 shooters. He's being guarded by Hartenstein. He needs to be able to drive to the rim and get a layup or dunk. He hasn't gotten close to doing that all season. Until he does, I'm fine with this role he's in now.

Kyrie being out clearly changes the offense but the biggest positive i see is on defense. Kyrie usually plays hard defensively but he free lances a lot and doesn't like fighting through screens. You can tell it confuses his teammates. And Kyrie is tiny out there so guys don't really feel him. Sumner is longer, plays with more effort, and doesn't make many mistakes. Man, the vibes are SO much better with him out.

I was never high on Vaughn but I've been happy with the job he's done. It actually feels like he cares about winning. Spacing feels like a priority. The defensive effort and execution is just on another planet. I like his energy on the sidelines and he's a likeable guy off the court. Hope we keep it up.
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Post#26 » by MGrand15 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:06 am

KnixtapeH20 wrote:Can't say good game but lol homeless Durant still got it


:lol:

You talk a lot of **** but I like your energy
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Post#27 » by KnixtapeH20 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:11 am

JoseRizal wrote:https://fb.watch/gIfvqp7zQF/

The mood in the locker room is fire. Love KD's gesture...

Good for Vaughn seems like a great cat, great to see another minority get a head coaching opportunity. Hopefully they respect him n are able to take accountability n let him coach.

Hopefully we can fire Thibs n let Johnnie Bryant get a shot. Love to see that from KD, just get rid of Kyrie n let this man coach
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Post#28 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:27 am

This was a great game for the Nets on both ends of the floor. Have to give JV props as his game plan was spot on, the offense flowed(still some rough stretches) and he knows when to call timeouts and places emphasis on defending and rebounding.

That said, the Knicks are so bad. How/why they didn't trade for Mitchell or commit to a tank is beyond me. Brunson is a good player but does not move the needle at all. That team is the definition of mid.
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Post#29 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:27 am

We need to take the ball from Durant hands.. a pg driven point would be super helpful, gets people into their spots
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Post#30 » by KnixtapeH20 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:51 am

3pt_chucker wrote:This was a great game for the Nets on both ends of the floor. Have to give JV props as his game plan was spot on, the offense flowed(still some rough stretches) and he knows when to call timeouts and places emphasis on defending and rebounding.

That said, the Knicks are so bad. How/why they didn't trade for Mitchell or commit to a tank is beyond me. Brunson is a good player but does not move the needle at all. That team is the definition of mid.

Mitchell wasn't it especially not from Ainge. The rest I echoed the same
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Post#31 » by KnixtapeH20 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:48 am

Yall got a good young player in sumner.... 6'6 guard that's great upsize for a guard. Did his thing tn
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Post#32 » by GTR11 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:51 am

Did a lot of trash talking in Applebee's for free drinks and food. Hope everyone enjoyed today :)
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Post#33 » by GTR11 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:55 am

CalamityX12 wrote:We need to take the ball from Durant hands.. a pg driven point would be super helpful, gets people into their spots

I'm still dumbfounded why this up and comers not watching CP3, J.Kidd, Glove etc players and try to emulate their games. True PG will always have longest career and consistent min anywhere.
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Post#34 » by GTR11 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:04 am

MGrand15 wrote:I almost forgot what a decent coach looked like. Almost fell off my chair when Vaughn called a timeout after a 5-0 run 1 minute into the 3rd quarter. Everytime the Knicks had some momentum, he called a time out.

Claxton has been amazing. He's not playing that much because Ben is the backup center but I just love his game right now. He's stronger. His conditioning is A1. He's bringing the energy every game. Making smart plays. Love it.

Ben looked better today. Still not good enough though. We're surrounding him with 4 shooters. He's being guarded by Hartenstein. He needs to be able to drive to the rim and get a layup or dunk. He hasn't gotten close to doing that all season. Until he does, I'm fine with this role he's in now.

Kyrie being out clearly changes the offense but the biggest positive i see is on defense. Kyrie usually plays hard defensively but he free lances a lot and doesn't like fighting through screens. You can tell it confuses his teammates. And Kyrie is tiny out there so guys don't really feel him. Sumner is longer, plays with more effort, and doesn't make many mistakes. Man, the vibes are SO much better with him out.

I was never high on Vaughn but I've been happy with the job he's done. It actually feels like he cares about winning. Spacing feels like a priority. The defensive effort and execution is just on another planet. I like his energy on the sidelines and he's a likeable guy off the court. Hope we keep it up.

This right here :curse:

If some didn't notice it pay close attention how it frustrates guys on the court. They'd start half ass'ng themselves and it's over from there. Only hope here is that Ben's, Royces and Nic's energy level on D can trump that and keep other guys accountable. Make no mistake, our D level picked up for a reason. KY is toxic in many ways. You need strong individual on the team to keep everyone in check and he has to have more authority. That's the only reason he was successful with LBJ.
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Post#35 » by JoseRizal » Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:30 am

I hope we can sustain this.

Points Allowed
First 8 games - 118.8
Last 4 games - 90.3

Opponent's FG%
First 8 games - 47.0
Last 4 games - 34.1

Opponent's 3PT%
First 8 games - 41.2
Last 4 games - 31.3
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Post#36 » by Gooner » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:02 am

Vaughn already transformed the defense. I think he will expose more and more how bad Nash was as a coach. All this team needs is solid defense and it's a contender.
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Post#37 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:42 am

With Nash gone, the team looks prepared to play, and the execution on both ends is much cleaner. Vaughn is actually coaching from the sidelines, and he understands game flow. Bringing Ben off the bench allows for maximum spacing in each line up.


With Kyrie gone, the ball moves more and everyone is involved. KD looks a lot more happier as the focal point of the offense. Everyone looks happy and engaged now that the toxicity is away from the team.

This is a clear case of addition by substraction. Both Nash and Kyrie held this team back a LOT.

Yes, we do need one more player that can create a shot when things stall out. No, it does not have to be Kyrie.

Toss the Chicago game out. Everything after Kyrie got booted has been much better, and we nearly beat Dallas. This season still looks salvageable now that we have an actual coach and KD looks like he's still engaged but Marks has to find a way to get us one more piece that can provide scoring so KD's minutes can hover around 32-34 a night.

The last thing you want is for Kyrie to come in here and start sabotaging Vaughn by ignoring playcalls. Send him to the Lakers for a bag of garbage idgaf
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Post#38 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:44 am

JoseRizal wrote:I hope we can sustain this.

Points Allowed
First 8 games - 118.8
Last 4 games - 90.3

Opponent's FG%
First 8 games - 47.0
Last 4 games - 34.1

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Last 4 games - 31.3


The rotations on defense are much cleaner, everyone seems to know where they need to be.
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Post#39 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:46 am

CalamityX12 wrote:We need to take the ball from Durant hands.. a pg driven point would be super helpful, gets people into their spots


I don't mind Durant running the offense in tbe high post or low post. It's the top of the key isolations that get him into trouble
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Post#40 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:47 am

MGrand15 wrote:I almost forgot what a decent coach looked like. Almost fell off my chair when Vaughn called a timeout after a 5-0 run 1 minute into the 3rd quarter. Everytime the Knicks had some momentum, he called a time out.

Claxton has been amazing. He's not playing that much because Ben is the backup center but I just love his game right now. He's stronger. His conditioning is A1. He's bringing the energy every game. Making smart plays. Love it.

Ben looked better today. Still not good enough though. We're surrounding him with 4 shooters. He's being guarded by Hartenstein. He needs to be able to drive to the rim and get a layup or dunk. He hasn't gotten close to doing that all season. Until he does, I'm fine with this role he's in now.

Kyrie being out clearly changes the offense but the biggest positive i see is on defense. Kyrie usually plays hard defensively but he free lances a lot and doesn't like fighting through screens. You can tell it confuses his teammates. And Kyrie is tiny out there so guys don't really feel him. Sumner is longer, plays with more effort, and doesn't make many mistakes. Man, the vibes are SO much better with him out.

I was never high on Vaughn but I've been happy with the job he's done. It actually feels like he cares about winning. Spacing feels like a priority. The defensive effort and execution is just on another planet. I like his energy on the sidelines and he's a likeable guy off the court. Hope we keep it up.


Last night was the best Ben has looked. He just needs to get more comfortable. Til then he just needs to focus on defense, rebounding, and pushing the tempo in transition
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