the new new era 2.0 - post deadline discussion

[sashaturiaf]

I’m optimistic, can we say with certainty we are worse than before KD Kyrie trade ?
Spencer=Spencer
DAngelo - just got traded , Minnesota didn’t want to extend him
Levert - he is not the player most here was hyping him to be
Allen - yeah that’s the biggest loss but with Allen here I doubt Claxton would’ve develop or see the floor at all
Joe regressed

That’s all from Atkinson Nets , all remaining players are not even in the league anymore to name a few ( Demarre Carroll, Allen Crabbe , Creek , Faried , Kurucs , Musa , RHJ )
Pinson it’s a decoy for Mavs

That’s it , would you like to turn the clock and have them all back ? I don’t

Now most of you gonna say , but what’s about all the picks we forfeit to Houston ?

I only speak for myself , as European I like the relegation system way more compared to awarding teams with top picks for tanking , saying this I’ll avoid tanking giving Houston top unprotected picks , I rather hopefully watch Mavs or Suns implode in 2024-2025 and get top picks from them

I get all disappointment that we not contenders anymore but I don’t see how we are in any shape worse then we were in 2019

GO NETS !!!!

I know we're trying to stay optimistic and received a boost with the influx of young talent.

But we are not better than yesterday, not even close. You can't trade Durant and end up ahead. However the past is the past and we need to put it behind us, it's not like Nets fans haven't been through this before.

[Paradise]

I’m optimistic, can we say with certainty we are worse than before KD Kyrie trade ?
Spencer=Spencer
DAngelo - just got traded , Minnesota didn’t want to extend him
Levert - he is not the player most here was hyping him to be
Allen - yeah that’s the biggest loss but with Allen here I doubt Claxton would’ve develop or see the floor at all
Joe regressed

That’s all from Atkinson Nets , all remaining players are not even in the league anymore to name a few ( Demarre Carroll, Allen Crabbe , Creek , Faried , Kurucs , Musa , RHJ )
Pinson it’s a decoy for Mavs

That’s it , would you like to turn the clock and have them all back ? I don’t

Now most of you gonna say , but what’s about all the picks we forfeit to Houston ?

I only speak for myself , as European I like the relegation system way more compared to awarding teams with top picks for tanking , saying this I’ll avoid tanking giving Houston top unprotected picks , I rather hopefully watch Mavs or Suns implode in 2024-2025 and get top picks from them

I get all disappointment that we not contenders anymore but I don’t see how we are in any shape worse then we were in 2019

GO NETS !!!!

I know we're trying to stay optimistic and received a boost with the influx of young talent.

But we are not better than yesterday, not even close. You can't trade Durant and end up ahead. However the past is the past and we need to put it behind us, it's not like Nets fans haven't been through this before.

KD literally could’ve had an ACL tear and we would still be here. We got lucky it wasn’t worse. It was obvious whatever and how we dealt with Kyrie would effect KD since the summer. I’m shocked it didn’t happen sooner with the suspension with Kyrie tbh.

[ArksNetsSince99]

I’m optimistic, can we say with certainty we are worse than before KD Kyrie trade ?
Spencer=Spencer
DAngelo - just got traded , Minnesota didn’t want to extend him
Levert - he is not the player most here was hyping him to be
Allen - yeah that’s the biggest loss but with Allen here I doubt Claxton would’ve develop or see the floor at all
Joe regressed

That’s all from Atkinson Nets , all remaining players are not even in the league anymore to name a few ( Demarre Carroll, Allen Crabbe , Creek , Faried , Kurucs , Musa , RHJ )
Pinson it’s a decoy for Mavs

That’s it , would you like to turn the clock and have them all back ? I don’t

Now most of you gonna say , but what’s about all the picks we forfeit to Houston ?

I only speak for myself , as European I like the relegation system way more compared to awarding teams with top picks for tanking , saying this I’ll avoid tanking giving Houston top unprotected picks , I rather hopefully watch Mavs or Suns implode in 2024-2025 and get top picks from them

I get all disappointment that we not contenders anymore but I don’t see how we are in any shape worse then we were in 2019

GO NETS !!!!

I know we're trying to stay optimistic and received a boost with the influx of young talent.

But we are not better than yesterday, not even close. You can't trade Durant and end up ahead. However the past is the past and we need to put it behind us, it's not like Nets fans haven't been through this before.

No man I never said we are better than yesterday, we’re not

I just compared us to 2019 Atkinson Nets , I think we are better positioned than the team from 2019

Our PR is fooocked up though , I’ll give you that

[sashaturiaf]

I’m optimistic, can we say with certainty we are worse than before KD Kyrie trade ?
Spencer=Spencer
DAngelo - just got traded , Minnesota didn’t want to extend him
Levert - he is not the player most here was hyping him to be
Allen - yeah that’s the biggest loss but with Allen here I doubt Claxton would’ve develop or see the floor at all
Joe regressed

That’s all from Atkinson Nets , all remaining players are not even in the league anymore to name a few ( Demarre Carroll, Allen Crabbe , Creek , Faried , Kurucs , Musa , RHJ )
Pinson it’s a decoy for Mavs

That’s it , would you like to turn the clock and have them all back ? I don’t

Now most of you gonna say , but what’s about all the picks we forfeit to Houston ?

I only speak for myself , as European I like the relegation system way more compared to awarding teams with top picks for tanking , saying this I’ll avoid tanking giving Houston top unprotected picks , I rather hopefully watch Mavs or Suns implode in 2024-2025 and get top picks from them

I get all disappointment that we not contenders anymore but I don’t see how we are in any shape worse then we were in 2019

GO NETS !!!!

I know we're trying to stay optimistic and received a boost with the influx of young talent.

But we are not better than yesterday, not even close. You can't trade Durant and end up ahead. However the past is the past and we need to put it behind us, it's not like Nets fans haven't been through this before.

No man I never said we are better than yesterday, we’re not

I just compared us to 2019 Atkinson Nets , I think we are better positioned than the team from 2019

Our PR is fooocked up though , I’ll give you that

Yes definitely better than post-King Nets, however still a disappointing spot to be given we pulled off one of the greatest FA hauls of all time by getting KD and Kyrie for nothing. If we got a title out of it different story...

And PR is definitely shot. Think Kyrie isn't telling everybody who will listen horror stories about his prosecution at the hand of the Nets?

[Netaman]

I’m optimistic, can we say with certainty we are worse than before KD Kyrie trade ?
Spencer=Spencer
DAngelo - just got traded , Minnesota didn’t want to extend him
Levert - he is not the player most here was hyping him to be
Allen - yeah that’s the biggest loss but with Allen here I doubt Claxton would’ve develop or see the floor at all
Joe regressed

That’s all from Atkinson Nets , all remaining players are not even in the league anymore to name a few ( Demarre Carroll, Allen Crabbe , Creek , Faried , Kurucs , Musa , RHJ )
Pinson it’s a decoy for Mavs

That’s it , would you like to turn the clock and have them all back ? I don’t

Now most of you gonna say , but what’s about all the picks we forfeit to Houston ?

I only speak for myself , as European I like the relegation system way more compared to awarding teams with top picks for tanking , saying this I’ll avoid tanking giving Houston top unprotected picks , I rather hopefully watch Mavs or Suns implode in 2024-2025 and get top picks from them

I get all disappointment that we not contenders anymore but I don’t see how we are in any shape worse then we were in 2019

GO NETS !!!!

this team is in way better shape than they were pre-KD.

Allen is the only loss out of all the guys you mentioned and Claxton makes that kind of meaningless. I don't know which of the 2 i'd pick right now if i could only have 1 but the recency bias would have me trend toward Clax. Like you said Dinwiddie is Dinwiddie so at the 1 and 5 they are the same.

beyond that there's nothing comparable. more picks. more shooters. more athletes. bridges, cam j, dfs, and oneale are legitimate multi-year contributors or starters on playoff teams. maybe russell/levert were a little more established than cam t at this point but his upside is higher and they do still have curry, who is an established 15 ppg starter on a playoff teams if given minutes.

and now obviously more unprotected picks that we dont even need to suck for them to end up being lotto picks since they are from other teams.

[Riconet]

The Nets are rebuilding, but they have a ton of assets -- good draft picks and quality players with tradeable contracts. I also think JV is a pretty good coach and pretty well-liked by players around the league.

They'll need to get rid of Simmons, whom I don't think is salvageable. It will cost them some assets to get someone to take him. Then they'll also have cap space to work with.

IMHO the biggest question now is whether Marks will get the chance to run the rebuild. I'd keep him, but I can see it going either way.

[Netaman]

I know we're trying to stay optimistic and received a boost with the influx of young talent.

But we are not better than yesterday, not even close. You can't trade Durant and end up ahead. However the past is the past and we need to put it behind us, it's not like Nets fans haven't been through this before.

No man I never said we are better than yesterday, we’re not

I just compared us to 2019 Atkinson Nets , I think we are better positioned than the team from 2019

Our PR is fooocked up though , I’ll give you that

Yes definitely better than post-King Nets, however still a disappointing spot to be given we pulled off one of the greatest FA hauls of all time by getting KD and Kyrie for nothing. If we got a title out of it different story...

And PR is definitely shot. Think Kyrie isn't telling everybody who will listen horror stories about his prosecution at the hand of the Nets?

who cares what kyrie says?

there's a reason he had 0 interest last year on the FA market.
and a reason he didnt get the extension he wanted.
or traded to the team he wanted.
and lost 10's of millions the last few years.
what do you think Harden says about him?
or anyone who played with him in boston?
or cleveland?

anyone who takes advice from him does so at their own peril.

what happens on the court is always going to be what drives the narrative. for kyrie, kd, and the nets franchise going forward.

[MrDollarBills]

"Seth and Joe should be out of the rotation altogether" 100%

this is the way

Seth and Joe should have been traded

[Netaman]

"Seth and Joe should be out of the rotation altogether" 100%

this is the way

Seth and Joe should have been traded

joe's contract is just as bad as bens so i think that's the main issue.

seth im surprised they didnt move but approaching fa they can always just buy him out if they want. or maybe they just like him because you can never have enough elite shooting.

[Lachiebkn]

Bridges to become the new kawhi Leonard for nets?

[vincecarter4pres]

We are actually too deep at this point.

This roster is loaded with good to very good players and almost everyone of them is young with further legitimate potential.

I think you’re going to see an attempt at a consolidation trade for a young star this summer.

With good health, this is a roster that will at absolute minimum be a play-in team for the next 4 years, without a big trade or big free agent signing. Most of our own picks are gone, but we’ll still have multiple shots at high lottery beginning in 2025 as well.

I do not think they’ll make a trade just to make one, but if a big move that makes sense is there, they’re going to spring into action.

Something like trading up for a can’t miss prospect like Dallas did for Doncic, or maybe SGA becomes available, Jamal Murray, KAT, or something real crazy like Ja Morant, or say Brandon Ingram.

[Wolves21]

Ya no star or all star player on the roster but by far the deepest team in the league and legit is 12 or more deep.They'll still make the playoffs this season and have the pieces to make a move in the off season to land a all-star player or make moves to sign one.

Right now they have 3/5 of a great starting line up long term with Thomas,Bridges & Claxton and also have Johnson who was one of the better 6th men last season.That's the core they should build around going forward,you have those going and add and all-star to the mix and now your cooking and should be a top 6 team in the east.

this is a rebuild but really a retool,they won't be tanking at all and will continue to make the roster into a playoff contender and theirs zero reason to tank without their own picks.

[Netaman]

We are actually too deep at this point.

This roster is loaded with good to very good players and almost everyone of them is young with further legitimate potential.

I think you’re going to see an attempt at a consolidation trade for a young star this summer.

With good health, this is a roster that will at absolute minimum be a play-in team for the next 4 years, without a big trade or big free agent signing. Most of our own picks are gone, but we’ll still have multiple shots at high lottery beginning in 2025 as well.

I do not think they’ll make a trade just to make one, but if a big move that makes sense is there, they’re going to spring into action.

Something like trading up for a can’t miss prospect like Dallas did for Doncic, or maybe SGA becomes available, Jamal Murray, KAT, or something real crazy like Ja Morant, or say Brandon Ingram.

a Simmons, Cam, 3-4 FRP for Mitchell deal would have been pretty perfect had he not been traded last year.

but if there's one thing we've seen going all the way back to melo, there will always be another guy on the market.

with 2 FRP's in 2023 and so many others in the future id actually rather see marks finally able to trade up into the lotto for a higher end talent. remembering back to his early years mitchell, bridges, etc were all guys they supposedly loved and tried moving up for but didn't have the ammo.

[TheNetsFan]

Someone on Twitter responded vehemently against a tweet speculating that the Nets could be aggressive in their pursuit of a guy like Siakam, LaVine or Towns in the off-season. I wouldn't pursue the first two, but Towns could be a very interesting fit with all the defensive guys we have. I'd be up for making a pick heavy offer with guys like DFS and expirings like Harris to see if Minnesota bites.

[vincecarter4pres]

Someone on Twitter responded vehemently against a tweet speculating that the Nets could be aggressive in their pursuit of a guy like Siakam, LaVine or Towns in the off-season. I wouldn't pursue the first two, but Towns could be a very interesting fit with all the defensive guys we have. I'd be up for making a pick heavy offer with guys like DFS and expirings like Harris to see if Minnesota bites.

Imho, they’re very likely to pursue KAT. But he is a center through and through and it would probably take Clax, Cam, Simmons and 2 1sts.

Is he worth it at that point?

Like not only do they need to ask the question if he moves the needle enough on his own, but is he a guy who attracts a better free agent or a guy forcing his way here in trade? Because he’s not the best player on a title team, or really even a contender.

And centers are hard to build around no matter how good they are.

[TheNetsFan]

Someone on Twitter responded vehemently against a tweet speculating that the Nets could be aggressive in their pursuit of a guy like Siakam, LaVine or Towns in the off-season. I wouldn't pursue the first two, but Towns could be a very interesting fit with all the defensive guys we have. I'd be up for making a pick heavy offer with guys like DFS and expirings like Harris to see if Minnesota bites.

Imho, they’re very likely to pursue KAT. But he is a center through and through and it would probably take Clax, Cam, Simmons and 2 1sts.

Is he worth it at that point?

Like not only do they need to ask the question if he moves the needle enough on his own, but is he a guy who attracts a better free agent or a guy forcing his way here in trade? Because he’s not the best player on a title team, or really even a contender.

And centers are hard to build around no matter how good they are.

Minnesota has no need for Claxton with Gobert there. I doubt they'd want Simmons next to Gobert. The offer would probably be something like DFS+Royce+Harris+picks. Don't know if they bite, but I expect Marks to take another swing at a younger star.

[CalamityX12]

Yall saw the rumored offer from Minnesota for Bridges????

Wow

[sashaturiaf]

Yall saw the rumored offer from Minnesota for Bridges????

Wow

No but what can they offer? They have no picks left

[CalamityX12]

Yall saw the rumored offer from Minnesota for Bridges????

Wow

No but what can they offer? They have no picks left

Read on Twitter

I'm sorry idk where I saw minny. Minnesota not named

[TheNetsFan]

Yall saw the rumored offer from Minnesota for Bridges????

Wow

No but what can they offer? They have no picks left

Read on Twitter

I'm sorry idk where I saw minny. Minnesota not named

I think Memphis was the team that was most aggressive in trying to get him.