Good article to read for the Kidd supporters...

[netsforever]

Hey guy's, I have been following this board for quite some time now and I think I Know how most of you guy's think. Yes some new guy's have said some silly things and if the big E was still around he would of tore these rooks a new one. But we are all entitled to our opinion. I don't see the need to bash JKIDD I have already said that he won't win his ring in Dallas and I'll leave it at that. All you guy's who say they have been Nets fans for ages must have real short memories. This is JKIDD's THIRD trade request. All this starts and ends with one person. RATNER. He was the one who came with the Donald Sterling attitude and he made Thorn slash payroll. So we lose Kmart for draft picks, we lose Special K for draft picks.
Now, I'm the first person to say that Kmart was not worth the deal he got from Denver. But if Thorn didn't have to slash payroll we could of got a better player in return. But the point is JKIDD wanted out then and Ratner changed his mind Thorn brings in VC and JKIDD is miracously healed from his knee injury. No VC and JKIDD shuts it down.

JKIDD is a great player his legacy to basketball and this franchise should not and never will be forgotten. But to whinge about him and they way he left is a bad case of sour grapes. As much as I wanted him to retire a net something always told me he would be traded. We got a great deal for 35 year old point guard who while as great a player as he is/was sometimes showed the maturity of a 12 year old.

The very reason we are a classy board is because we don't air our dirty laundry but we still respect each others opinions.

Lets put the past behind us and look forward to a prosperous future.
We can always look back and remember the good ol days and thank JKIDD for putting this franchise on the map and making other players want to play here.

Remember it wasn't to long a go that players thought of being drafted here as a prison sentence and FA's would rather play in Europe than be associated with the laughing stock of the NBA.


CHEERS!!!


GO NETS!!!

Speaking of which, where is E?

[aussienet]

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Of course you had to follow JJ with that +1 remark... (kiss ***)

Why bring up the Raptor thing or the wifebeater thing when nobody else was talking about it here in this thread. THAT WAS NOT THE TOPIC. And what the **** is with this BAN thing, like we're going to jail or something? Stop threatening people instead make a smart post and quit making negative remarks all the time. It's not gonna help the situation.

See, that was unclassy. Why are we beating each other up over this? JKIDD is gone. The issue is dead. Lets count down the hours till Devon makes his debut.

[aussienet]

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Speaking of which, where is E?

I reckon E is reading these posts and his blood is boiling.

I for one can't wait until i see the Thread "I'm Back" ala michael jordan. Then I can sit back and watch the big E pay out on some of these silly comments being made.

I'm gunna do what Magic did.

I'm beggin ya E come back, on my hands and knees baggin ya. Come Back.


CHEERS!!!

GO NETS!!!!

[jeff1624]

Sorry to tell you Aussie but Enetric is currently a survivor of crash 815 and is stuck on a island so he won't be posting anytime soon. Matter of fact I found a picture of him with the rest of the survivors..

[60cent]

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See, that was unclassy. Why are we beating each other up over this? JKIDD is gone. The issue is dead. Lets count down the hours till Devon makes his debut.

I think you got the wrong person buddy. Unclassy is when you always try to be on the other side of whoever made the thread and post with sarcasm, just being a smart ass.

I dont post a lot but i read a lot. I know who is the smart ass here. Just the other day i've read this thread by ragtime and this fool was being sarcastic to him. Who cares if ragtime loves Swift? We all know, even ragtime, that Swift is not gonna bring us a RING but he has the right for his own opinion and to idolize someone.

Aussie, you're new here thats probably why you dont understand. So please dont get in the middle of this. I dont have any beef with you so leave me alone. I only have a few posts but i've been reading this site for a LONG time.

E is the man here, i know that. And i know that he hasn't been posting for some reason so dont try to replace him.

LOL at you for denying the kissing part. As i have been saying... i always read, as in everday, so i know how badly you want to be a MODERATOR here...

and dont deny this one... talk about being classy...

[jeff1624]

^^dude why would I want to be a MOD.... Does it give me financial security??no...

Hell I post more on the media lounge then I do on the nets board so I don't really get this whole want to be a mod...

And the whole ratime thing is different. I couldn't careless if he's a swift fan but he crosses the line when he semi compared him to bill russell...

lol I'm still laughing at the whole want to be a mod thing, trust me that's the last thing I want and need right now...

[Crizlassic]

Why can't we be fans,
Why cant we be fans?
( to the tune of "Why Can't We Be Friends" by WAR.)

[Rich Rane]

I don't understand rich...you really need to relax dude. You're the one who told me about this being a classy board and i appreciate that, yet, you seem to react towards me with venom when i am civil with you. We're all net fans here....i won't refer to you as a fool, i'd appreciate the same kind of respect, otherwise you weren't being totally honest about how this board is.

Look it's just getting annoying how you're going out of your way to bash a player. Take a look at your last 100 or so posts here and I'm willing to bet 3/4 of them contain a post on "wifebeater Kidd", "Idiot Marcus", "Noki", etc. This is a classy board. I understand that you do respect Kidd and our current players, but there are times when you post like a ten-year-old kid who makes fun of our players with these stupid tags or an obsessed ex-girlfriend with these Kidd posts. Take a look at the title of this thread and it just makes it seem like you want everyone that has supported Kidd to forget him. There's absolutely no need to go out of your way to keep bringing this up.

I know you love to go on NetsDaily like we all do and I know they post every single bit of Nets news, but you don't have to do it here also. Most of RealGM Nets Board Off The Court stuff talk during the season is minimal and is played into a future move, but basically What's On the Court, Possible Future Moves, and Scrubs is what's discussed here. During the offseason is usually Draft Talk and Move Evaluations...and Scrubs.

A difference of opinions is "trolling"?

Trolling in its basic entirety is going to another board for the sole purpose of disrupting with a possible suspension being the result. Certain posters from the Toronto Board have been doing this since the VC trade.

Of course you had to follow JJ with that +1 remark... (kiss ***)

Or if you read the board as much as you claimed, you'd know he has been saying the same exact thing for the last two weeks.

Why bring up the Raptor thing or the wifebeater thing when nobody else was talking about it here in this thread. THAT WAS NOT THE TOPIC. And what the **** is with this BAN thing, like we're going to jail or something? Stop threatening people instead make a smart post and quit making negative remarks all the time. It's not gonna help the situation.

How does it not tie in? Star player leaves organization after asking for trade. Fans piss and moan (Some Raptor fans to this day). After taking one look at the trolls that have been coming here since the VC trade, do you honestly want the board filled with posters like those?

[NetsForce]

I wish we never traded for Kidd the wifebeater no good quitter. The Stephon Marbury era was so much better =|

Every player has their flaws and scuffles with management, it's just part of a business that when a high profile player leaves a team that his flaws are put under the microscope.

[TheGrowth]

So let me get this straight Rich. You don't think Kidd is liable to being criticized. He did a lot of good things for the team no doubt, but this isn't a one way street. They also put up with a lot of his crap.

How many teams in the league have protected their superstar as much as the Nets did with all the offcourt stunts that Jason has pulled. Him demanding this trade, and sitting out during the season makes him look like a spoiled prima donna and I haven't even started mentioning all the offcourt issues either

[netsforever]

So let me get this straight Rich. You don't think Kidd is liable to being criticized. He did a lot of good things for the team no doubt, but this isn't a one way street. They also put up with a lot of his crap.

How many teams in the league have protected their superstar as much as the Nets did with all the offcourt stunts that Jason has pulled. Him demanding this trade, and sitting out during the season makes him look like a spoiled prima donna and I haven't even started mentioning all the offcourt issues either

Look, I don't think anyone here is saying that Kidd doesn't deserve some criticsm.

If you look in my post history, you'll see that I said we should put Kidd at the end of the bench if he doesn't want to play for this team anymore.

However, Kidd is gone. And while yes, his trade demand and his decision to stop trying to compete for this team is probably the lowest point of his tenure here, Jason Kidd's run in New Jersey is without a question the high point of this franchise since the merger into the ABA.

And while I would have loved to win it all with Kidd, it was evident to everyone here that it wasn't going to happen. Place the blame on RJ's or Nenad's injuries, or on the inability of Thorn to bring in any of the power forwards that this board beat to death in discussing... the Kidd-VC-RJ trio was clearly not built for a title.

Apparently moving Kidd became easier than moving VC or RJ for a 4. That wasn't a Kidd decision, that was a Thorn decision.

And when you consider that we got the BEST value for Kidd of ANY of the star trades in the past few years.... it's hard for me to be too bitter about Jason's departure.

Consider this. If we hadn't made the Kidd-Marbury trade in 2001, where would this team be today? Would we be able to trade Stephon Marbury today for the package we got from Dallas?

The Nets saw a net (yes, I know, hilarious) gain with the Kidd departure. Let's leave it that.

I, for one, will be very happy to see Kidd succeed in Dallas, and wish him nothing but the best.

[EFF]

This did not start as a kidd bashing thread AT ALL. Did the creator write the article? No. Even if he did, was the article even disparaging? No. It reported what went on. With that DollarBills just says, "something to think about," not "Kidd is a !@#%#%&@ @#%@$^4 12#@$"

Guys are just a little over-sensitive about it (for some reason) right now

Now everyone calm down and focus all that negative energy on someone who relaly deserves the scorn...Frank.

[jerseyjac]

OKAY...first of all...jeff and 60 cent kiss and make up...I know you read a lot 60...you visit frequently...but I think your jumping the gun...at the very most jeff is over-protective...and he knows he's not becoming a mod here whether he wanted to or not...there are obvious reasons to that and it has nothing to do w/ him or how he acts here...

so drop the bickering...and looking deeper into things than you actually should...

[jerseyjac]

A difference of opinions is "trolling"?

Wow. Hey Mods, could you lock this thread please? I see where this is headed, that wasn't my intention.

My apologizes to all.

no not at all...different opinions are why we're here...its what makes things interesting...and all perspectives are welcome here...

However, there is balance everone should have with their opinions and recognizing others or the opposite side of things...

I have no problem and have stated if your upset with the way Kidd handle things by all means post your disappointment...but again, balance is key...lets not have our disappointment blind us from what Kidd really accomplished here...( though I know you have stated both...)

I dont understand what is happening here. Why cant we balance the situation for what it is instead of getting all extreme?

Kidd turned this franchise around..thanks for that.

Kidd left the franchise on a sour/controversial note.

It's a legacy, but not an untainted one. If you become a raptor-esque fan about it, you're an ignorant ingrate. But if you blindly maintain he's the man no matter what, you're in denial.

It's been said about him for year: Great player. questionable character. you dont have to hate him for his character flaws much like you dont have to love him for being a great player.

everyone calm down. Noone's going toronto on Kidd.

again, there is a balance here every Nets fan should have in regards to the Kidd situation...and a lot of what EFF said is a good basis for this...and I find the over-reaction laughable ...lets not get our feathers ruffled over nothing...

you better believe no one is going Toronto on this situation...that would be pathetic...

Hey guy's, I have been following this board for quite some time now and I think I Know how most of you guy's think. Yes some new guy's have said some silly things and if the big E was still around he would of tore these rooks a new one. But we are all entitled to our opinion. I don't see the need to bash JKIDD I have already said that he won't win his ring in Dallas and I'll leave it at that. All you guy's who say they have been Nets fans for ages must have real short memories. This is JKIDD's THIRD trade request. All this starts and ends with one person. RATNER. He was the one who came with the Donald Sterling attitude and he made Thorn slash payroll. So we lose Kmart for draft picks, we lose Special K for draft picks.
Now, I'm the first person to say that Kmart was not worth the deal he got from Denver. But if Thorn didn't have to slash payroll we could of got a better player in return. But the point is JKIDD wanted out then and Ratner changed his mind Thorn brings in VC and JKIDD is miracously healed from his knee injury. No VC and JKIDD shuts it down.

JKIDD is a great player his legacy to basketball and this franchise should not and never will be forgotten. But to whinge about him and they way he left is a bad case of sour grapes. As much as I wanted him to retire a net something always told me he would be traded. We got a great deal for 35 year old point guard who while as great a player as he is/was sometimes showed the maturity of a 12 year old.

The very reason we are a classy board is because we don't air our dirty laundry but we still respect each others opinions.

Lets put the past behind us and look forward to a prosperous future.
We can always look back and remember the good ol days and thank JKIDD for putting this franchise on the map and making other players want to play here.

Remember it wasn't to long a go that players thought of being drafted here as a prison sentence and FA's would rather play in Europe than be associated with the laughing stock of the NBA.


CHEERS!!!


GO NETS!!!

there's my mate...well said...thats exactly how I've been expressing my outlook on the Kidd trade...its pretty simple...when there is more good (the success Kidd brought to the Nets and what we got in return when he departed) than bad (sour grapes and the fact the Front Office and team had to deal with it, adversely affecting us for while)...

fact is, Kidd would of walked in a year anyway...

fact is, its called getting something, rather than nothing...

fact is, Thorn wasn't going to make a trade to appease Jason Kidd, he was ONLY going to make one that made sense for the Nets and our future...

[MrDollarBills]

Jersey Jac or any other Nets mod(is there others?),

Could you please heed my request to close this thread? I don't see anything positive about this staying open, i'd rather forget this ever happened. I apologize for even posting the article...i didn't realize the sensitivity level of some of the posters here in regards to Kidd. Jason Kidd is God, Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, etc, sorry for ever saying anything bad about -the way he left here-. Some of you guys need to calm down, i'm just quite sarcastic, i like to have fun, and i don't take this as seriously as some of you do....but for people to accuse me of trolling, wish for someone name E "rip me a new one", and threaten me with bans for just posting an article and stating my opinion about the way things is ridiculous. I'm sorry, sheesh!! Please close this.

Rich,

Again, you claim this is a classy board, and from most of the posters here i'd believe it to be so, yet you continue to lob insults at me...that is far from what you're trying to depict here. I am not all serious and prudish, i am a person who likes to joke around and talk about NETS basketball, but apparently, you don't like to mix the two...my jabs at the players are not to be taken serious, or mean spiritied at that, they are just jokes!! I love Boki, I love Marcus, and when Kidd was here playing with heart i had love for him too. I'm not here to insult you, or any other Nets fan, or any poster on this site for that matter, and i have not...i think you need to relax a little, taking jokes about players for a team that we both love personally is a bit much. I apologize if i've offended you for making jokes about players on our team, but i find it a little strange for you say this board is classy when insults are coming from your direction. Take care man, lets just talk basketball.

[jerseyjac]

Jersey Jac or any other Nets mod(is there others?),

Could you please heed my request to close this thread? I don't see anything positive about this staying open, i'd rather forget this ever happened. I apologize for even posting the article...i didn't realize the sensitivity level of some of the posters here in regards to Kidd. Jason Kidd is God, Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, etc, sorry for ever saying anything bad about -the way he left here-. Some of you guys need to calm down, i'm just quite sarcastic, i like to have fun, and i don't take this as seriously as some of you do....but for people to accuse me of trolling, wish for someone name E "rip me a new one", and threaten me with bans for just posting an article and stating my opinion about the way things is ridiculous. I'm sorry, sheesh!! Please close this.

Rich,

Again, you claim this is a classy board, and from most of the posters here i'd believe it to be so, yet you continue to lob insults at me...that is far from what you're trying to depict here. I am not all serious and prudish, i am a person who likes to joke around and talk about NETS basketball, but apparently, you don't like to mix the two...my jabs at the players are not to be taken serious, or mean spiritied at that, they are just jokes!! I love Boki, I love Marcus, and when Kidd was here playing with heart i had love for him too. I'm not here to insult you, or any other Nets fan, or any poster on this site for that matter, and i have not...i think you need to relax a little, taking jokes about players for a team that we both love personally is a bit much. I apologize if i've offended you for making jokes about players on our team, but i find it a little strange for you say this board is classy when insults are coming from your direction. Take care man, lets just talk basketball.

no worries dollar bills...we're just having a debate...making some points...its all good..

[EFF]

I actually like this thread. trying to bring some of these lovers/haters back down to earth.

[jeff1624]

JJ i formally request a username change to:

Tryin-to-Be-A-Mod if you will...

[Stone]

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Which is why he pretty much single handedly lifted us over the Raptors last year, tried to ask for an extension, and nearly averaged a triple-double this year.

Where were you when K-Mart left and took money over this team? Where were you during the Derrick Coleman days?

I support Thorn's moves and based on that article, his actions and words. You're not going to make me disrepect Kidd's legacy here though and you're a fool to do it.

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Since this is a friendly debute. Here's why I respectfully diagree with the Rane-man.

Stats can be decieving. Think Jerry Stackhouse leading the league in scoring years ago. Now I'm not saying 100 triple doubles is a fluke. I do believe however stats can get inflated. Kidd basicly played however much he wanted. Opie bent over backwards for the guy. But to be fair lets see how many triple doubles he gets in Dallas.

J Kidd didn't just try for an extention. He demanded one. When he didn't get his way he acted extreemly unprofessionally. Having his agent threaten us by steering his clients elsewhere. By faking a headache and sitting out a game and by going public and lowering his value.

I also disagree with the K-Mart comparison. When it was time for K-Mart to re up he signed a contract with the team who payed him the most money. Kidd is not getting anymore money from Dallas then he would have got from us. With K-Mart it was all about money and I'm OK with that. K-Mart didn't pull any of the stuff Kidd did.

I was a Kidd supported right till the end. When Rich posted that J Kidd accomplishments thread about a mounth ago I nominated it for a sticky. But in the end I feel J Kidd did us wrong.

[jerseyjac]

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Since this is a friendly debute. Here's why I respectfully diagree with the Rane-man.

Stats can be decieving. Think Jerry Stackhouse leading the league in scoring years ago. Now I'm not saying 100 triple doubles is a fluke. I do believe however stats can get inflated. Kidd basicly played however much he wanted. Opie bent over backwards for the guy. But to be fair lets see how many triple doubles he gets in Dallas.

J Kidd didn't just try for an extention. He demanded one. When he didn't get his way he acted extreemly unprofessionally. Having his agent threaten us by steering his clients elsewhere. By faking a headache and sitting out a game and by going public and lowering his value.

I also disagree with the K-Mart comparison. When it was time for K-Mart to re up he signed a contract with the team who payed him the most money. Kidd is not getting anymore money from Dallas then he would have got from us. With K-Mart it was all about money and I'm OK with that. K-Mart didn't pull any of the stuff Kidd did.

I was a Kidd supported right till the end. When Rich posted that J Kidd accomplishments thread about a mounth ago I nominated it for a sticky. But in the end I feel J Kidd did us wrong.

he probably did us dirty...but he's still the best Nets player to ever wear the uniform...