How long is it gonna take

dacher · Post #21 » by **dacher** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 2:19 am

agree with nf.

I wouldn't look to the lottery. Bigs that can score are top 5 lottery picks. There's no way we're getting one of those. But, where we are drafting, we might be able to pick up a shooter.

Do whatever it takes to restore Krstic's game is our best chance of filling the need at center. Also need to see what he can do to make him a fair contract offer.

Some injuries take years to come back. Someone from another team posted a few months ago, that when one of their guys had an ACL injury like Krstic, it took 1 1/2 years for him to come back into form.

MrDollarBills · Post #22 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 2:19 am

correct. I just don't think Krstic has done enough since his return to warrant an outrageous extension. But i do think he deserves a chance and also some touches.

A shooter in the draft isthe #1 priority. I wouldn't mind seeing what we can get for RJ/Carter on the market and keep this current group of bigs we have.

Also, i'd like to mention that Lawrence Frank is an idiot

EFF · Post #23 » by **EFF** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 2:23 am

how do we average .5 plays per game for Curly? Especially for a coach trying to re-acquaint that player with the game. He is doing diddly to see that through. Just putting him out there to run around won't cut it because he needs to be involved in the game plan. He's not athletic enough to be effective by just being out there. Sean and stro on the other hand...

I guess you can say that Frank has enough on his plate with a new half of a team to figure out. But it's not like we saw more attention on Krstic's rehabilitation before the trades.

If you're not gonna make a concerted effort to make him effective, just bench him and prepare him for next season. Otherwise it's just a waste even if he plays.

SteveNets15 · Post #24 » by **SteveNets15** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:16 am

He doesn't deserve to start.We gave him a chance and he can't get it done.I was at the game 2nite and he was horrible bricking and airballs thats it.Diop should be r starting center alongside Boone and Sean needs more minutes cuz his confidence is going down.I even like what Swift is doing in his short time out there at least he impacts the game if Kristic can't make a wide open shot he's pretty much useless.

halfHAVOC · Post #25 » by **halfHAVOC** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:19 am

krstic plays like a pus, id rather a post banger that gets 15,

dude can't even rebound, and he doens't play good D.

RJ 24 · Post #26 » by **RJ 24** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:26 am

this doesn't sound like the same HalfHavoc that has been posting here for a while now. You should be ashamed of yourself for wishing harm on someone dying to get back so he can provide for this team.
:wavefinger:

netsforever · Post #27 » by **netsforever** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:26 am

halfHAVOC wrote:krstic plays like a pus, id rather a post banger that gets 15,

dude can't even rebound, and he doens't play good D.

What post banger are you talking about here?

What player are you suggesting we acquire?

Have you ever seen Krstic play when he's been healthy?

If you had, you would know that Krstic has never been considered soft, in fact possessing a very agressive game around the basket.

His rebounding totals were always low due to the fact that the Nets had three players around him in RJ/VC/JK with above average rebounding numbers for his position.

And no, he's not winning all-D awards anytime soon. That's why we played him with a Jason Collins, and that's why a guy like a Sean Williams or a Boone is so valuable.

Nenad Krstic is our most talented interior scorer, barring any serious roster moves.

So I ask you again. Where are we finding another player who has shown or that can be realistically expected to perform at Krstic's level?

Please watch some basketball before you make ill-informed comments. Euro does not always equal soft.

lurkingobeiscity · Post #28 » by **lurkingobeiscity** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 5:53 am

Ahhh... the ignore button. Even if this isn't the real half havoc, I don't think its a big loss for me.

netsforever · Post #29 » by **netsforever** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:08 am

lurkingobeiscity wrote:Ahhh... the ignore button. Even if this isn't the real half havoc, I don't think its a big loss for me.

Is he normally this dumb?

lurkingobeiscity · Post #30 » by **lurkingobeiscity** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:40 am

netsforever wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Is he normally this dumb?

Not usually this malevolent.

netsforever · Post #31 » by **netsforever** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:47 am

lurkingobeiscity wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Not usually this malevolent.

Fair enough

Post #32 » by **jerseyjac** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 1:26 pm

first of all...its a slow process...in spurts you see Nenad trying to regain his confidence and his old form...obviously we're nowhere close...

last night there was a particular play on the defensive end where Duncan was driving and Curly went straight up w/ him altering the shot...now that surprised the hell out of me...

his shot is definitey way off...but the Nets start him to try and get him off early...they're keeping him in a role that is familiar which they dont want to lose once he regains his old form...and they're fine with sacrificing some of those minutes to start and during the game to bring this guy back...u got to have patience...yeh its frustrating, but if anyone here wishes for a player to get hurt on this team or on any team, GO POST SOMEWHER ELSE...

the disrespect is absolutely intolerable...I was once an athlete...I was injured and have come back from injury while playing hurt or playing games through a rehab transition...its not easy, your not yourself...but hopefully every game is one step closer to that player becoming themselves again...or at least each game played will eventually add up to you getting back to where you once were...

think a little deeper...its not all that difficult to understand...

(note: official warning to all...you will be suspended with this type of trash talk...)

MrDollarBills · Post #33 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:29 pm

If Diop continues to be more effective on the floor, i'd rather he start, I agree that before Curly gets slapped on the bench he should get a chance to get some touches near the basket.

Its a shame about the tragic death of his jumpshot though, R.I.P.

EFF · Post #34 » by **EFF** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 7:44 pm

yeah you'd figure his shot would be the first thing to being to show. it hasn't.

How far do we take this rehabilitation thing before we give up on him? He may never come back to form so how long do we invest time in him at the expense of the team? I relaly didn't expect it to be so dramatic. But i guess not everyone can be jason kidd.

Serpo · Post #35 » by **Serpo** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 7:52 pm

A relatively cheap two year deal wouldn't hurt . Not much risk .

He's still if he ever recovers our best big by far and seeing him recover to his former self elsewhere would pain me .

MrDollarBills · Post #36 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:07 pm

I'm all for resigning Curly, but not for anything ridiculous and nothing past 2 years. The guy has yet to prove he can play at the level he was once at, but i don't think we should give up on him, but the contract has to be favorable to the franchsie so we can still make other moves. One of those moves is that I'm hoping Rod is able to resign Diop if some other team doesn't overpay, but seeing how (Please Use More Appropriate Word) some of these GMs are, i know someone will. Making a play for Elton Brand using RJ, Marcus, and one of the picks is also a must do. We need someone that can put points up in the paint.

netsforever · Post #37 » by **netsforever** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:26 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I'm all for resigning Curly, but not for anything ridiculous and nothing past 2 years. The guy has yet to prove he can play at the level he was once at, but i don't think we should give up on him, but the contract has to be favorable to the franchsie so we can still make other moves. One of those moves is that I'm hoping Rod is able to resign Diop if some other team doesn't overpay, but seeing how (Please Use More Appropriate Word) some of these GMs are, i know someone will. Making a play for Elton Brand using RJ, Marcus, and one of the picks is also a must do. We need someone that can put points up in the paint.

I'd give Nenad a 3 or 4 year deal at something like half of the MLE.

Low risk, high reward.

MrDollarBills · Post #38 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:20 pm

4 years? 2 at best with a team option for a 3rd sounds a lil better, we don't know what we'll even get out of him....poor Curly... :nonono:

netsforever · Post #39 » by **netsforever** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:28 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:4 years? 2 at best with a team option for a 3rd sounds a lil better, we don't know what we'll even get out of him....poor Curly...

Eh, 2 or 3 million dollars won't hurt us too much.

Besides, I think we'd have to add the years to keep him.

netsforever · Post #40 » by **netsforever** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 5:20 am

6 points and 10 rebounds on 3-6 shooting for Nenad tonight...