Stromile Swift's player option

[rag-time4]

^ Ha, you have switched over to the Nets board!

Anyway, I think that the Nets got Stro a little late. They could have used his athletic presence with a Jason Kidd. That is really the only situation under which I can see him thriving.

Yessir, I'm a loyal fan!

I think Swift is the best big on the team, I don't think Boone and Krstic should be playing over Swift. Harris and Swift seemed to play very well together, btw...

[jman3134]

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Yessir, I'm a loyal fan!

I think Swift is the best big on the team, I don't think Boone and Krstic should be playing over Swift. Harris and Swift seemed to play very well together, btw...

Man I want some of what you have....

Or I don't if I want to realistically judge a player's ability relative to other's.

[Preludepunk27]

I view Stro as an expiring contract and nothing more. I agree he does has some solid ability and I still think he has an upside. He's got all the athleticism in the world, but it is actually hard to teach bball IQ. I think him and Sean are similar players and would rather invest my time in Williams.

This is the first year where we have legitimate poker chips thanks to the expirings of Stro, Hassel and KVH (if we dont' buy him out/trade him this offseason). Still if KVH isn't on the roster game 1, we have 10 mill in expirings and 3 first rounders over the next 2 seasons and some young talent teams may be interested in (The Williams', Boone, Krstic still has a little value). If teams don't want RJ, I'm fine keeping him and packaging some of these guys with Stro/Hassel/some picks and getting a legit player. Of course, it is a pipe dream. Just because we have some decent expirings doesn't mean we can move them. But I think Stro's contract is valuable to us rather than himself being a solid contributor to our team. The direction I believe we're going, I don't see our staff taking the time to help him out.

[G_MoNeY]

I'm honestly starting to think rag-time4 is actually Stromile Swift...

Anyone else?

[Serpo]

Maybe his brother ?

[stro4swift]

If rag-time4 is Stromile then who am I?

Seriously though, i'm glad Stro picked up his player option but it's no surprise really. There is a good chance that he's going to be dealt before the trade deadline next season but he's in NJ now and I want him to perform there. Like Rag said, Stro played pretty well with Harris and I think he should get more minutes playing with a good PG next year.

[jman3134]

^ Taylor Swift?

[jman3134]

Could he potentially be thrown in a sign and trade in order to match salaries? I see this as a likelihood.

[Preludepunk27]

Could he potentially be thrown in a sign and trade in order to match salaries? I see this as a likelihood.

Unless something weird happens, I don't expect both Swift and Hassel to be on our team by the end of this upcoming season.

[kamaze]

Anyway, I think that the Nets got Stro a little late. They could have used his athletic presence with a Jason Kidd. That is really the only situation under which I can see him thriving.

You're right they got him to appease Kidd but it didn't matter he wanted out.
Stroshow's talented for a cheap price no complaints from me.

[Rich Rane]

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Unless something weird happens, I don't expect both Swift and Hassel to be on our team by the end of this upcoming season.

Hassell's got a player option after this season he'll likely pick up. I don't expect Ager to be on this team beyond next season.

You're right they got him to appease Kidd but it didn't matter he wanted out.
Stroshow's talented for a cheap price no complaints from me.

Well, it didn't matter how badly Kidd wanted out. It was a matter how much Dallas wanted him and finding the right deal. You're right that Swift was a backup plan if Dallas couldn't find the right pieces.

[SD2042]

Could he potentially be thrown in a sign and trade in order to match salaries? I see this as a likelihood.

It's a big possibility due to the logjam that Stro finds himself in. Here are some potential teams Stro could fit in with.

Denver
NOH
GSW
Washington
Detroit

The first 4 teams fit Stro's athleticism skills as they thrive in transition offense. Run and gun style is the best fit for Stro. Only reason why Detroit is on the list is b/c they need frontcourt help with the ages of Sheed and Dice creepin on them. It is a cardinal sin to trade within the same conference so a trade with Wash and Detroit less likely to form.

[kamaze]

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Well, it didn't matter how badly Kidd wanted out. It was a matter how much Dallas wanted him and finding the right deal. You're right that Swift was a backup plan if Dallas couldn't find the right pieces.

I thought Kidd played a couple of games w/ Stroshow??

[Rich Rane]

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I thought Kidd played a couple of games w/ Stroshow??

With the amount of seconds they played together, no one could tell if Kidd could or couldn't have helped Swift. The point was that Thorn traded for Swift to try and appease Kidd to make it seem he was trying to please his star if Dallas didn't get the right pieces together. We didn't need to trade Collins (As bad as that may sound). Both of their contracts expire the same year.

[aussienet]

Guy's its pretty simple Stro has NATURAL athleticsm. You don't have to work hard when your body is naturaly programmed that way. He has picked up his player Option this year so that makes him a free agent after next season. Some one give him Austen Croshere's Number and he can tell Stro what to do and how to play, train, and conduct himself in a contract year. Just keep him the hell away from BOKI.

Seriously tho, Stro has been paid on potential and he hasn't lived upto it thus far. Heck if i were him i would sign up for summer league just to prove to Frank i was a changed man and all that baggage was un called for. But we know that that ain't gonna happen. People around him tell him he's good he believes he's good. So he just want's his.
This a contract year for Stro so he really needs to come into camp fit and raring to go.
Time will tell

[Preludepunk27]

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It's a big possibility due to the logjam that Stro finds himself in. Here are some potential teams Stro could fit in with.

Denver
NOH
GSW
Washington
Detroit

The first 4 teams fit Stro's athleticism skills as they thrive in transition offense. Run and gun style is the best fit for Stro. Only reason why Detroit is on the list is b/c they need frontcourt help with the ages of Sheed and Dice creepin on them. It is a cardinal sin to trade within the same conference so a trade with Wash and Detroit less likely to form.

I think he'd be in a logjam in Denver. If we could get Camby and Jr Smith for like Stro/Hassell/KVH, I'd love life, but he's gotta play next to K-Mart and Nene. He'd get decent time and probably would be relatively productive but wouldn't be a game changer.

Detroit is set with their boys for a while and are keeping their fingers crossed Amir Johnson doesn't turn into Stromile Swift

GSW could do it because they're all nuts. I think he'd be solid there.

Byron Scott I think would hate Stro personally.

Washington is gonna play Blatche over him every day of the week. He'd be lost behind him and Haywood and Twan when he plays the 4. They still have faith in Pechirov too.

[kamaze]

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With the amount of seconds they played together, no one could tell if Kidd could or couldn't have helped Swift. The point was that Thorn traded for Swift to try and appease Kidd to make it seem he was trying to please his star if Dallas didn't get the right pieces together. We didn't need to trade Collins (As bad as that may sound). Both of their contracts expire the same year.

Um Kidd makes everyone better if you've only watched him w/ the Nets as I he's done so year after year.

I'd think Thorn made the trade planning to keep Kidd it was also a good deal getting Stro.
The Kidd to the Mavs talk hadn't heated up yet I believe.

Yeah we did. I appreciated what Collins brought to the team but Swift has more talent and the Boone and SWAT were ready to produce.
Twin wasn't needed anymore he was in the way actually.

[Rich Rane]

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Um Kidd makes everyone better if you've only watched him w/ the Nets as I he's done so year after year.

Yes, I don't question that he does make certain players better, but there have been a few duds. Rodney Rogers, Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning, Zoran Planinic, nearly the entire '03-'04 team pre-VC trade, Jamaal Magloire, a regressing Collins...

I'd think Thorn made the trade planning to keep Kidd it was also a good deal getting Stro.
The Kidd to the Mavs talk hadn't heated up yet I believe.

It was heating up. It was before the Devean George fiasco, but Dallas was finding the pieces.

Yeah we did. I appreciated what Collins brought to the team but Swift has more talent and the Boone and SWAT were ready to produce.
Twin wasn't needed anymore he was in the way actually.

And Swift's All-Star production has made the team a contender. Look, I'm not questioning who would be a better fit for Kidd, but neither really put us in contention when it's all said and done. There are just some players Kidd can't make better. Take a look at his current team and their 1st round exit (With all due respect to the great team that is New Orleans Hornets).

[kamaze]

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Yes, I don't question that he does make certain players better, but there have been a few duds. Rodney Rogers, Dikembe Mutombo, Alonzo Mourning, Zoran Planinic, nearly the entire '03-'04 team pre-VC trade, Jamaal Magloire, a regressing Collins...

True he made Z better in my opinion, just played the wrong position he should've played off guard.

And Swift's All-Star production has made the team a contender. Look, I'm not questioning who would be a better fit for Kidd, but neither really put us in contention when it's all said and done. There are just some players Kidd can't make better. Take a look at his current team and their 1st round exit (With all due respect to the great team that is New Orleans Hornets).

No offense but you're argumentative it's cool I am too never said anything about "contender".

[MrDollarBills]

Swift is a bum but Collins had to go, so it was a win win for us either way because now we have an expiring contract to pawn off on other teams.