Belinelli

[Tommy Udo 6]

I don't think Anythony Morrow is legit, the Warriors can keep him.

I wouldn't mind getting Belinelli, if all it costs is Maurice Ager + a second round pick or something along those lines...

Morrow was superb in Summer League - then was invited to camp and made the team. he has had a number of good games.

Belinelli is being traded because the W's feel that Morrow is so much better that Marco will not get much playing time in future.

If Nets are involved, Warriors will probably want back the pick that they traded for Marcus Williams.

[vincecarter4pres]

Yeah the pick and Ager for salary purposes makes sense.

[delsol650]

Just wondering what in the world makes you NJ fans think we want Ager or Sean???????

We have duplicates of those guys better than those 2 even if we get rid of Belli. Seriously.

If there was anyone that the dubs would be actually intrested is VC. thats it. EVEN THOUGH at his point of his career that he's a HALFMAN/HALF INJURED.

We don't need anymore guards, we already have,
Ellis, Watson, Mags, Buke, Morrow, Williams, DNelson ( Dleague )- Why in the hell would we want another role player SG??

We have NO NEED for S.Williams, we have enough fowards already. All he can do is jump out of the court. Don Nelson won't have use for him.
Wright, Randolph, Jax, Hendrix (DLeague)

This whole rumor is probably being started by Belli's brother in europe.

[Preludepunk27]

Just wondering what in the world makes you NJ fans think we want Ager or Sean???????

We have duplicates of those guys better than those 2 even if we get rid of Belli. Seriously.

If there was anyone that the dubs would be actually intrested is VC. thats it. EVEN THOUGH at his point of his career that he's a HALFMAN/HALF INJURED.

We don't need anymore guards, we already have,
Ellis, Watson, Mags, Buke, Morrow, Williams, DNelson ( Dleague )- Why in the hell would we want another role player SG??

We have NO NEED for S.Williams, we have enough fowards already. All he can do is jump out of the court. Don Nelson won't have use for him.
Wright, Randolph, Jax, Hendrix (DLeague)

This whole rumor is probably being started by Belli's brother in europe.

The more I think about it, the more I been thinking that too. Vince makes the most sense for you guys.

However, like 99% of people who are not Nets fans, you're completely and utterly (Please Use More Appropriate Word) when it comes to Vince's durability. He has never missed significant time as a Net and even played on a bum ankle for most of last season and still put up decent stats. Get your fact straight before you cut a player down.

[St.Nick]

I don't want VC. We're paying enough money to our other swingmen Maggette and S-Jax. And quite frankly, as productive as VC can be, I don't think he would justify that salary of his on a young team like ours.

The only few guys I see us wanting in exchange for Marco are Dooling (we'd have to add salary filler to make it work) and Sean Williams. This is assuming that your rookies are off limites.

We'd take Sean because any deal with Marco likely means Harrington is on his way out as part of the package. I still think a Marco/Harrington for S.Swift/Dooling/S.Williams/returned pick deal make sense.

Anyways, I can guarantee you that we would not take Ager, a guy that plays the same position as Marco but is basically an NBA washout. I don't care if you throw in that conditional pick (which looks like it will be a 2012 2nd rounder anyways).

[Preludepunk27]

Our management is pretty committed to Keyon. I think that's unlikely. But I agree with you on Vince, it really wouldn't make sense for you guys. Besides since he just signed a new deal, isn't Keyon not allowed to be traded till December? I'd hate life if they dragged it out for that long lol.

As crappy as it sounds for you guys, here is the list of players you will probably get some combo of:

Bobby Simmons
Stromile Swift (exp)
Trenton Hassel (small buyout after season)
Maurice Ager (expiring cause we didn't pick up his option)
Josh Boone
Sean Williams

I personally don't know who the hell would fit into your team from that list, but management seems committed to everyone else on our roster, or they are recent signings that can't be traded till december.

[St.Nick]

Sean for Marco...back-to-back picks in the 2007 draft, lots of talent, playing on teams with too much depth at their position. Seems like a natural fit to me.

If you don't want to trade Keyon, would you do this deal:

Swift-S.Williams-CDR-returned pick
for
Harrington-Marco

I know that Nellie had a thing for CDR before the draft. Although I think he may find himself in Marco's situation, being the third SG (or SF) and without minutes.

I do think that Al next to Yi could be a good thing for the kid. What Al lacks in athleticism and ideal size he makes up for in toughness and savvy... with Yi its vice versa.

[Preludepunk27]

Not a chance you're pulling CDR from us.

I again really an not sure how this deal will go down, if at all.

[St.Nick]

We don't need Boone since we've got Biedrins and Turiaf. Perhaps swinging Boone to Memphis and sending Kyle Lowry our way would work.

[vincecarter4pres]

We don't need Boone since we've got Biedrins and Turiaf. Perhaps swinging Boone to Memphis and sending Kyle Lowry our way would work.

Not a bad idea.
We need the Marcus Williams pick to be guarenteed 1st rround though IMHO in any deal for Belinelli involving Boone or Sean Williams.

[Joseph17]

You guys would love Belinelli if you get him. Start him at sg with Carter at sf. I would take him over Sean Williams any day of the week and I've seen a lot of both players.

[St.Nick]

We don't need Boone since we've got Biedrins and Turiaf. Perhaps swinging Boone to Memphis and sending Kyle Lowry our way would work.

Not a bad idea.
We need the Marcus Williams pick to be guarenteed 1st rround though IMHO in any deal for Belinelli involving Boone or Sean Williams.

That's a shame, because that would immediately kill the deal. We would not give away a guy that would be a solid starter on many teams, a prospect from last year's draft, AND a 1st rd pick for Stro Swift, S.WIlliams and Kyle Lowry.

Harrington= Swift (at least)
Marco = S.Williams
Lowry does not equal a first round pick

Its more like, you give us the pick back then we'll send you a 2nd rounder.

[vincecarter4pres]

I thought you were talking about a straight up 3 team 3 player deal.
GS incoming Kyle Lowry
NJ incoming Marco Belinelli
Memphis incoming Sean Williams

I personally want zero to do with Al Harrington.

He will not get the minutes he thinks he deserves here, or possibly anywhere.
He does nothing for us either. If this team makes the playoffs with the current roster, great.
But we are not trading anyone to get a vet that might help us make the playoffs and then lose our lotto pick next season, all while sucking the life out of the lockerroom and taking away a lot of minutes that the young guys need.

[St.Nick]

I wasn't talking about that, but its not a bad idea.

Re: Harrington, if you have Bobby Simmons starting and playing 20mpg for you anyways, you might as well have Harrington, who might help mask a lot of Yi's weaknesses. Plus, the guy is expiring in two years anyways, so it won't cost you in that targeted 2010 FA class.

If he likes it there, he may give you guys a hometown discount to be your backup SF/PF after LeBron comes to town. Its not a bad thing trading Stro Swift for a guy like Al.

[vincecarter4pres]

I wasn't talking about that, but its not a bad idea.

Re: Harrington, if you have Bobby Simmons starting and playing 20mpg for you anyways, you might as well have Harrington, who might help mask a lot of Yi's weaknesses. Plus, the guy is expiring in two years anyways, so it won't cost you in that targeted 2010 FA class.

If he likes it there, he may give you guys a hometown discount to be your backup SF/PF after LeBron comes to town. Its not a bad thing trading Stro Swift for a guy like Al.

I just don't like the idea of Harrington.
He isn't quick enough to be a SF, yet he is allergic to defense and posting up and has something against being a good rebounder even though he has the ability to be.
With that being said, he could be a nice 25mpg guy on a contender in need of some offense.
The problem is, he is a legend in his own mind, so it seems he feels he dezerves at least 30 something mpg and a healthy chunk of the offense being focused on him.
He just isn't the answer to me.
If this team improves in a trade, we need to improve dramatically, literally to the point of being a contender in one trade, if not there is absolutely no point.
If we make a trade that makes us a mediocre 1st round playoff out for a high seeded team it actually hurts what we are trying to do. It costs the young guys valuable minutes and experience and sacrifices the lotto pick we would recieve if we missed the playoffs.
If the team as currently constructed or with the addition of a another young guy, such as a Belinelli, makes the playoffs, that is great, because then they have achieved success on their own, while picking up valuable experience on the way, along with the fact they will be forced to play big minutes in the playoffs by default, ala the hawks from last year.
I digress anyway, because IMO, Al Harr will actually make this team worse.
Keep him away.

[ChampionRed]

Well Netsdaily.com shot down this trade rumor. The warriors apparently wanted one of Boone of Sean for Belinelli.

[vincecarter4pres]

Well Netsdaily.com shot down this trade rumor. The warriors apparently wanted one of Boone of Sean for Belinelli.

I know Boone has more value then Belinelli, but I would have loved to see him go, for the simple fact it means Opie has to start Brook and give Swat, Anderson and co. more run.

Like I said, if we sent Boone I would have loved the deal as long as the conditional pick form the Marcus trade became a guarenteed 1st rounder, maybe just lotto protected this season, top 10 the following, etc.

[EFF]

id give boone in a hearbeat. I kind of question that decision, epsecially given how well we've played without boone. Not that his absence was the reason but we can clearly live without him and with jarvis hayes showing that he can go down at any second, I'd take a backup guard for insurance.

[jerseyjac]

id give boone in a hearbeat. I kind of question that decision, epsecially given how well we've played without boone. Not that his absence was the reason but we can clearly live without him and with jarvis hayes showing that he can go down at any second, I'd take a backup guard for insurance.

nahhh...I'm keeping Boone...and injuries set aside, I dont think the Nets jump at a trade like this, especially this early in the season...but as Thorn stated, I guarantee the chatter continues...I would still hold on to these guys to possbily package them come Feb...

[SpeedyG]

I thought there isn't much to this rumor, yet fell to the hype. The two teams just don't really "mix" well trade wise. Like I said, the best way for a deal to happen between these two teams was if GS somehow got crazy (hey, they do have Mullin) and wanted VC and the Nets make it to do a dump for the 2010 class.

Or a threeway trade, but those often complicates things.