Around the NBA, 2017-18 Season thread

[Aussienet3]

I remember monitoring the NBA draft boards and Kyle Kuzma was nowhere to be seen as far as I can remember. And then he crushed the summer league and looks very polished already now. Gotta credit Magic for this pick. Kuzma's college stats weren't that impressive so maybe Magic used the eye test.

That's why I'm not salty about Kuzma. We wouldn't have taken him had we kept the pick.

I use the same analogy with the Wallace trade. I doubt we take Lillard when we already had DWon't.

[Ror1997]

I remember monitoring the NBA draft boards and Kyle Kuzma was nowhere to be seen as far as I can remember. And then he crushed the summer league and looks very polished already now. Gotta credit Magic for this pick. Kuzma's college stats weren't that impressive so maybe Magic used the eye test.

That's why I'm not salty about Kuzma. We wouldn't have taken him had we kept the pick.

I use the same analogy with the Wallace trade. I doubt we take Lillard when we already had DWon't.

That one was even better. We know that we would've drafted TRob, and we actually had TRob for a year. We know 100% he's a bust. So keeping the pick vs trading it is irrelevant. Story ends the same.

[MrDollarBills]

That's why I'm not salty about Kuzma. We wouldn't have taken him had we kept the pick.

I use the same analogy with the Wallace trade. I doubt we take Lillard when we already had DWon't.

That one was even better. We know that we would've drafted TRob, and we actually had TRob for a year. We know 100% he's a bust. So keeping the pick vs trading it is irrelevant. Story ends the same.

Not necessarily. We could have used the pick in a bid to trade for James Harden IIRC.

[Ror1997]

I use the same analogy with the Wallace trade. I doubt we take Lillard when we already had DWon't.

That one was even better. We know that we would've drafted TRob, and we actually had TRob for a year. We know 100% he's a bust. So keeping the pick vs trading it is irrelevant. Story ends the same.

Not necessarily. We could have used the pick in a bid to trade for James Harden IIRC.

We could've used assets from the Joe Johnson trade to grab Harden too. But had we of kept that pick, it would've been used on TRob. Billy King was in love with him.

[Aussienet3]

I use the same analogy with the Wallace trade. I doubt we take Lillard when we already had DWon't.

That one was even better. We know that we would've drafted TRob, and we actually had TRob for a year. We know 100% he's a bust. So keeping the pick vs trading it is irrelevant. Story ends the same.

Not necessarily. We could have used the pick in a bid to trade for James Harden IIRC.

A lot of people (including my close friends) Always say the trade for wallace cost us Lillard.

If we traded the pick for something other than Wallace, well, thats a different story. I was just saying that wallace didn't actually cost us Lillard. Knowing what we know about BK it probably cost us a lot more than Lillard! lol

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[Prokorov]

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great job by the suns getting a decent return for a guy they had to trade

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Is the worst outside the paint actually Caris?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leverca01/shooting/2018

In this shot type jumpshot split it has CLV shooting a putrid 17-72 .236

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Is the worst outside the paint actually Caris?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leverca01/shooting/2018

In this shot type jumpshot split it has CLV shooting a putrid 17-72 .236

Yep. I find it comical we’ve got folks who went to overlook how bad Caris is but micromanage Russell now, RHJ from last season, act like LeVert doesn’t have expectations himself. All this talk about possibly being the second best player on the team and he’s right up there with Lonzo as a awful shooter.

Yes, it’s early but let’s be real.

[MrDollarBills]

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Is the worst outside the paint actually Caris?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leverca01/shooting/2018

In this shot type jumpshot split it has CLV shooting a putrid 17-72 .236

Yep. I find it comical we’ve got folks who went to overlook how bad Caris is but micromanage Russell now, RHJ from last season, act like LeVert doesn’t have expectations himself. All this talk about possibly being the second best player on the team and he’s right up there with Lonzo as a awful shooter.

Yes, it’s early but let’s be real.

I've noticed this too. Caris is posting a PER of 8 and not a peep yet Russell gets destroyed after every game for not being perfect.

I'm glad folks are being patient with LeVert, because they should be. It's 11 games in. Too bad Russell, who is two years younger, isn't being afforded the same level of patience and understanding.

[CalamityX12]

OKC should never had traded for Melo...

[Karate Diop]

OKC should never had traded for Melo...

I think you hit the nail on the head, Melo isn't necessarily doing anything wrong it's just... Such an awkward fit for that team.

When the trade when down it instantly reminded me of the time the Dallas Mavericks added Antoine Walker and Antawn Jamison to their core of Nash, Dirk, Michael Finley for a season.

At the time people were going bonkers over the fact that Mavericks now had 4-5 legitimate 20-point scorers on their team, but that team never really clicked and was an easy first round out.

Sometimes adding more scoring talent is NOT the solution.

[CalamityX12]

OKC should never had traded for Melo...

I think you hit the nail on the head, Melo isn't necessarily doing anything wrong it's just... Such an awkward fit for that team.

When the trade when down it instantly reminded me of the time the Dallas Mavericks added Antoine Walker and Antawn Jamison to their core of Nash, Dirk, Michael Finley for a season.

At the time people were going bonkers over the fact that Mavericks now had 4-5 legitimate 20-point scorers on their team, but that team never really clicked and was an easy first round out.

Sometimes adding more scoring talent is NOT the solution.

They should've stayed with Westbrook and PG and run that, with the prior Thunder personnel, and see where that went. I feel it would've been much more smoother.

That Melo trade/move, that's something, IMO, should've been done(if needed to) at the deadline, not at the start of the season. They were too early and unnecessary IMO.

[Prokorov]

OKC should never had traded for Melo...

I think you hit the nail on the head, Melo isn't necessarily doing anything wrong it's just... Such an awkward fit for that team.

When the trade when down it instantly reminded me of the time the Dallas Mavericks added Antoine Walker and Antawn Jamison to their core of Nash, Dirk, Michael Finley for a season.

At the time people were going bonkers over the fact that Mavericks now had 4-5 legitimate 20-point scorers on their team, but that team never really clicked and was an easy first round out.

Sometimes adding more scoring talent is NOT the solution.

i think the poor fit is more paul george then carmello.... dont get me wrong, george is the better player, but carmello is much better off ball and much better in the post. george off ball/post is really not a great player. he needs his touches

[shakendfries]

Wide Open Eastern Conference Expected To Lead To More Trade Activity
"I think that's going to dictate, as we get closer to trade season, just the idea that with so many teams in the East especially thinking 'we have a chance', executives think there's going to be a lot of activity this year. As one said to me, 'you may see a lot more West to East deals where teams in the West who just don't think they can compete, whether they're getting salary off or trying to create flexibility for the summer. You may see some of these contenders in the East trying to load up and you may see that talent surge from East to West, you may see it come back this year." - Adrian Wojnarowski

Seems like a coded way of saying DeMarcus Cousins is likely to get traded if the Pels aren't in the playoff picture at the deadline. Randle is up for grabs. Could you envision any other Western Conference players on the move? Other than that, it doesn't look like any solid big men are likely to switch teams.

What ever happened to Boban?

[bws94]

OKC should never had traded for Melo...

I agree. He seems like a chemistry killer.

[bws94]

"Mighty" Cavs have fallen again. LBJ gets shot blocked at game's end. They need IT but LeBron admitted they still have a lot of holes.

[TheNetsFan]

"Mighty" Cavs have fallen again. LBJ gets shot blocked at game's end. They need IT but LeBron admitted they still have a lot of holes.

I guess Kyrie knew what he was doing when he forced his way out.

[MrDollarBills]

Haha they have the same record as us.