Net Sentence wrote:
Lets not pretend Thad was getting paid like some All-Star either, he had a very team friendly contract that should have fetched much more than the #20 pick. Thad would be making 20 mil a year if he hit free agency this year instead of last. Thad is not a dime a dozen player. If he were, Marks would have easily replaced him with something resembling an NBA starter. No Booker isnt that guy.
This trade poisoned the well in free agency. Ever since Marks got here, he has went out of his way to say the Nets were building around Lopez and THAD. The Nets often talked about how he was the first player to actually live in Brooklyn. Then he trades him on draft night right before free agency. That sent the wrong message to established vets IMO. It also didnt help us any with player agents. Things would have looked a lot different if we had Lopez and Thad and then quickly signed Lin. Having 3 starters locked up would have made us much more attractive to Mark's actual targets like Marvin WIlliams and Kent Bazemore. Instead Marks got played left and right by player agents using the Nets as leverage. You never want to be that team that gets used like that.
Say what you will about Billy King but he had very good relationships with agents and delivered on a lot of big names in the off season even if he had to overpay sometimes. People act like he was a trainwreck here but he has one of the best winning % of any GM for the Nets. I would much rather watch the Nets next year with a couple overpaid players who are actually good then to watch the slop we are going to be sending out there this year. Marks made us worst IMO and the teams around us got better. This is going to be a long, painful season.
You make it seem like making trades is easy, whilst I agree, it's still arguable that he should've fetched more than the 20th pick have you ever considered that:
A) Did teams actually need a player of Young's ilk and contract? Yes it's team friendly, but which team were actually there to trade with that had both the cap space and the willingness to give up a pick for him, please enlighten me.
B) Were teams actually wiling to trade their draft picks? Because the only other move that was made in the draft was the trade for Belinelli for Charlotte's pick (22nd), and Sacramento getting two picks for their no.8 from Phoenix and that big Orlando/OKC trade. The rest were mostly for the 2nd round.
How did it poison the well? That makes no sense, you actually think that's the reason why no player wanted to sign here? Not the fact that we have the worst outlook of the entire NBA with no draft picks, no sure prospects (injury risk, raw etc) and relying on a bunch of veteran minimum contracts to keep this team afloat because of the horrendous poker face of one Billy King (who for some reason you are praising despite him putting us in this clusterf****). That's the reason why Marks got played by agents, because we have NOTHING to offer FA's except money and playing time (which is why TJ and Crabbe signed their offer sheets), that's all we had as leverage and this whole off-season you've been up for giving albatross contracts to the likes of Bazemore and Marvin Williams (considering the amount of money they got paid you actually think an extra $1 or $2 million would help? Laughable).
I can't believe you're actually praising King, you do realise that he didn't just overpay, but he literally sold the entire house for a packet of gummy bears. You remember the Wallace trade? The KG/PP trade? Heck even the JJ trade? I'm all for overpaying especially this year, but that's just giving away free assets for no reason whatsoever. You're also seriously basing this on win %, by that logic Byron Scott was the best HC the Nets has ever seen, and PJ was the best coach ever since we moved to Brooklyn.
You say Marks made us worse but for some reason you can't see that that's not the case, this is just the after effects of Billy King severely overpaying for a few years in the limelights. Many of us in these boards saw this coming from a mile away, and like you said it is going to be a painful season because of that troll GM. Blame Marks all you want and I'm not saying I'm pleased with how this offseason has transpired, but no other GM could've done a better job than him given the cards he's dealt.
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People seem to be OK with the way Marks is just throwing this season away with no reason to do so. Everyone loves Marks plan but last time I checked, King is the guy who got us RHJ and CMC. The Marks plan is based on taking credit for what King did and set in place. Unless LeVert turns into a stud (doubt it) Marks has fallen on his face.
Here's another one of your problems, you seem ready to always discredit Marks despite this being his FIRST, I repeat FIRST offseason. You have your complaints about LeVert and that's cool but let's not pretend that RHJ and CmC are sure things here too, so I find it hilarious that you're complimenting King for RHJ and CmC but severely discrediting Marks for LeVert.
