The Official Lin Net Thread

[ChokeFasncists]

One thing tho, Lin has improved a lot since the time he was being waived. If he becomes totally comfortable with his new shot, that could completely change the equation.

PS* OP said "when Amare was hurt" I don't think he should be included except for fun.

[DartboardT]

http://brook-lin.com/linsanity-gone-long-live-jeremy-lin/
New article from former Knicks beat writer with recent quote from Lin's shooting coach re: changing his 3-pt shot during last yr's season and thoughts for this yr:
"The mechanics for that shot were put in place, but last year Lin didn’t have it in muscle memory. As a result, at times he was thinking too much about his form rather than just letting the ball fly." On July 13 this summer I emailed Doc in California and asked him how Lin was doing in his workouts. He wrote back: “Physically he looks strong. He’s fit and working hard at mastering his shooting. His shot looks great and I think you ll see a big jump in his shooting proficiency this year with Nets."

That's not entirely right. It was a combination of factors, the worst of which were some nagging injuries (especially the ankle, hence JLin/Cody Zeller's #AnkleBracesforLife inside joke), which I bet hurt shot form changes the most.

It was a small sample but JLin was shooting absolutely lights out in the preseason (which, of course, "doesn't matter"). Fatigue, injury, highly variable minutes + adjusting to the coach (I mean, Hornets started...PJ Hairston...) hurt, but only in spots, curiously enough. If anything, his overall FG% was more inconsistent than his 3-pointer, which was decent-or-better in every month EXCEPT November (Hornets were just horrible) and January (a Linjury phase).

Here's what I mean: [tweet]https://twitter.com/dartboard_trade/status/754429706242498560[/tweet]

[spaceballer]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/754440843029733376[/tweet]
https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/754440843029733376

[spaceballer]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Tvfh-AXP0[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Tvfh-AXP0

[Prokorov]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/754440843029733376[/tweet]
https://twitter.com/BrooklynNets/status/754440843029733376

thats awesome.

[DartboardT]

The Infamous JLin Double Ponytail. My eyes. They bleed.

[ChokeFasncists]

http://brook-lin.com/linsanity-gone-long-live-jeremy-lin/
New article from former Knicks beat writer with recent quote from Lin's shooting coach re: changing his 3-pt shot during last yr's season and thoughts for this yr:
"The mechanics for that shot were put in place, but last year Lin didn’t have it in muscle memory. As a result, at times he was thinking too much about his form rather than just letting the ball fly." On July 13 this summer I emailed Doc in California and asked him how Lin was doing in his workouts. He wrote back: “Physically he looks strong. He’s fit and working hard at mastering his shooting. His shot looks great and I think you ll see a big jump in his shooting proficiency this year with Nets."

Brook-Lin.com!!!

[spaceballer]

JLin playing with kids on his overseas trip this summer.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qojDgAcNUWU[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qojDgAcNUWU

[JohnStockton]

I wish Jeremy would do the majority of his shooting drills with an actual guy rebounding his shots, instead of that rebounding machine/gun thing he uses. Seems like he uses that machine more often than not.

Always felt like the gun was good for maximizing the number of shots taken, and instilling form + muscle memory, but I feel like if you always used it over traditional rebounding, you'd subconsciously train yourself to shoot with the machine's timing, and instead you'd never develop a natural shoot + catch rhythm where your eye is following the rebounder/passer and tracking the ball as it comes to you.

This irrationally bothers me. Or maybe not irrationally. I'M JUSTIFIED DAMMIT

[Lorenzomax7]

I think this Nets team is worse than the Linsanity lineup too. Mainly because...

“With Linsanity we had 11 games, if I’m not mistaken, where we were the No. 1 defensive team in the league (with Lin as the point guard),” D’Antoni says in response to a 790 AM question. “Nobody says that. Nobody says we were 10-1, or 9-1, with Lin.”

Rookie Shump & Tyson Chandler were two elite defenders. Fields/Jeffries were above-average defenders. Lin was below-average man-to-man, but playing with Chandler allowed him to gamble for steals in the passing lane. More importantly from a defensive point of view, all five of these guys had good defensive IQ. Great rotations, understood where the help should come from.

This Nets team doesn't have anywhere near the same kind of defensive ability. They don't have even one elite defender, unless you want to be generous and say that RHJ has potential to blossom into that, but until he performs at a high level consistently, he's not there yet either.

Also, prime Tyson Chandler was probably the greatest fit for Jeremy Lin ever. Elite screen setter + elite rolling big? There's literally nobody else except DeAndre Jordan that would pair up better with Lin, and I still think Tyson is a better fit, because his feel for the game is better.

Don't get it wrong, Brook will be a very good partner with Jeremy, but it won't be as good as it was with Tyson, because even though Brook is more skilled than Chandler was, he's also a complete gear slower. The Brook-Lin PnR will be more versatile, but it won't be as dynamic, and Brook's finishing ability off dives won't be elite as it was with Chandler, and his jumpshot doesn't have enough weight to offset that efficiency.

Annnnnnnnnd, he shot better FTs... WAY WAY better... Ppl could stop Lin+DAJ or Lin+ED with fouling.

[hollandog]

I wish Jeremy would do the majority of his shooting drills with an actual guy rebounding his shots, instead of that rebounding machine/gun thing he uses. Seems like he uses that machine more often than not.

Always felt like the gun was good for maximizing the number of shots taken, and instilling form + muscle memory, but I feel like if you always used it over traditional rebounding, you'd subconsciously train yourself to shoot with the machine's timing, and instead you'd never develop a natural shoot + catch rhythm where your eye is following the rebounder/passer and tracking the ball as it comes to you.

This irrationally bothers me. Or maybe not irrationally. I'M JUSTIFIED DAMMIT

Good point. I can be the rebounder. Text me Lin.

[jbeachboy]

its not always easy to find someone to rebound for you.

[Paradise]

His sneaker line looks pretty good.

[fafan]

His sneaker line looks pretty good.

Like the yellow colour one more.

[Manitoba]

I think this Nets team is worse than the Linsanity lineup too. Mainly because...

“With Linsanity we had 11 games, if I’m not mistaken, where we were the No. 1 defensive team in the league (with Lin as the point guard),” D’Antoni says in response to a 790 AM question. “Nobody says that. Nobody says we were 10-1, or 9-1, with Lin.”

Rookie Shump & Tyson Chandler were two elite defenders. Fields/Jeffries were above-average defenders. Lin was below-average man-to-man, but playing with Chandler allowed him to gamble for steals in the passing lane. More importantly from a defensive point of view, all five of these guys had good defensive IQ. Great rotations, understood where the help should come from.

This Nets team doesn't have anywhere near the same kind of defensive ability. They don't have even one elite defender, unless you want to be generous and say that RHJ has potential to blossom into that, but until he performs at a high level consistently, he's not there yet either.

Also, prime Tyson Chandler was probably the greatest fit for Jeremy Lin ever. Elite screen setter + elite rolling big? There's literally nobody else except DeAndre Jordan that would pair up better with Lin, and I still think Tyson is a better fit, because his feel for the game is better.

Don't get it wrong, Brook will be a very good partner with Jeremy, but it won't be as good as it was with Tyson, because even though Brook is more skilled than Chandler was, he's also a complete gear slower. The Brook-Lin PnR will be more versatile, but it won't be as dynamic, and Brook's finishing ability off dives won't be elite as it was with Chandler, and his jumpshot doesn't have enough weight to offset that efficiency.

Don't forget that Lin is a better defender than he was during Linsanity. With Lin and RHJ, a lot of nights Brook will have very little to do on D, and that'll be good. A Brook+modernLin combo might be almost as good at D as Tyson+youngLin.

As you say, Brook has it all over Tyson on O. One aspect of Brook's offensive game I'm especially looking forward to seeing is his passing ability. I think we can expect lots of give-and-gos between him and Lin, so many that the other team will go crazy. On offense, Brook+Lin >>> Tyson+Lin.

When you combine the Nets' potentially OK defense with a much improved offense, there's hope. While chemistry is not always predictable, I think there's a pretty good chance that the Nets may be as good as the Linsanity team.

Please don't misunderstand -- the team will likely not be able to sustain the Linsanity level of play all season, just as the actual Linsanity bunch probably wouldn't be able to sustain their improbably high win rate. But next year's Nets wil show good flashes, maybe very good flashes, and I will be happy.

[ChokeFasncists]

Linsanity was kinda like a Cinderella team in the NCAA tourney.

He had a great run, got drafted by Houston.

[Roy Tarpley]

Hmmm...well Booker and RHJ are good defenders. Lin is decent. I'm excited by the defensive potential.

[Prokorov]

Don't forget that Lin is a better defender than he was during Linsanity. With Lin and RHJ, a lot of nights Brook will have very little to do on D, and that'll be good. A Brook+modernLin combo might be almost as good at D as Tyson+youngLin.

Thats not how it works though. RHJ is an excellent defender, but when another team runs a 1-5 pick and roll, and RHJ's man is in the corner, there really is nothing he can do. Brooks biggest flaw defensively is pick and roll defense, and its one of the main reasons we are always one of the worst defensive teams vs. 3 point shooting. our wings are forced to pinch to prevent the roll man from an easy dunk, leaving the wing shooters open.

As you say, Brook has it all over Tyson on O. One aspect of Brook's offensive game I'm especially looking forward to seeing is his passing ability. I think we can expect lots of give-and-gos between him and Lin, so many that the other team will go crazy. On offense, Brook+Lin >>> Tyson+Lin.

I wouldnt say that at all. the knicks version of tyson chandler was scoring 12 ppg on 70 TS%. thats elite for an scoring big who doesnt needs touches to score. id agree brook > chandler on offense, but not Brook >>> chandler. and i cant see anyway the Lin/Lopez pick and roll is better then the Lin/Chandler pick and roll was. not that it wont be good...

When you combine the Nets' potentially OK defense with a much improved offense, there's hope. While chemistry is not always predictable, I think there's a pretty good chance that the Nets may be as good as the Linsanity team.

the nets offense projects to be pretty awful.

[Manitoba]

Thats not how it works though. RHJ is an excellent defender, but when another team runs a 1-5 pick and roll, and RHJ's man is in the corner, there really is nothing he can do. Brooks biggest flaw defensively is pick and roll defense, and its one of the main reasons we are always one of the worst defensive teams vs. 3 point shooting. our wings are forced to pinch to prevent the roll man from an easy dunk, leaving the wing shooters open.

I wouldnt say that at all. the knicks version of tyson chandler was scoring 12 ppg on 70 TS%. thats elite for an scoring big who doesnt needs touches to score. id agree brook > chandler on offense, but not Brook >>> chandler. and i cant see anyway the Lin/Lopez pick and roll is better then the Lin/Chandler pick and roll was. not that it wont be good...

When you combine the Nets' potentially OK defense with a much improved offense, there's hope. While chemistry is not always predictable, I think there's a pretty good chance that the Nets may be as good as the Linsanity team.

the nets offense projects to be pretty awful.

There's no law that says RHJ has to cover the corner man; even Bog can do that.

I also notice that you slyly avoided mentioning Lin when you disputed that Brook > Tyson on offense. (I was saying that Brook+Lin >>> Tyson+Lin.) I know that you think Lin isn't worth a hunk of moldy bread, but the rest of the NBA strongly disagrees with you, if we can judge by the desperate defense they put on him whenever he was on the floor. Ask Tim Duncan and the Spurs (whom Lin has wrecked repeatedly) whether they think Jeremy is a significant factor.

I think the Nets' offense and defense will be much improved next year, mostly due to Lin, and there is reason to be optimistic for the season.

EDIT: fixed spelling of "Tyson".

[gafun]

Thats not how it works though. RHJ is an excellent defender, but when another team runs a 1-5 pick and roll, and RHJ's man is in the corner, there really is nothing he can do. Brooks biggest flaw defensively is pick and roll defense, and its one of the main reasons we are always one of the worst defensive teams vs. 3 point shooting. our wings are forced to pinch to prevent the roll man from an easy dunk, leaving the wing shooters open.

I wouldnt say that at all. the knicks version of tyson chandler was scoring 12 ppg on 70 TS%. thats elite for an scoring big who doesnt needs touches to score. id agree brook > chandler on offense, but not Brook >>> chandler. and i cant see anyway the Lin/Lopez pick and roll is better then the Lin/Chandler pick and roll was. not that it wont be good...

When you combine the Nets' potentially OK defense with a much improved offense, there's hope. While chemistry is not always predictable, I think there's a pretty good chance that the Nets may be as good as the Linsanity team.

the nets offense projects to be pretty awful.

There's no law that says RHJ has to cover the corner man; even Bog can do that.

I also notice that you slyly avoided mentioning Lin when you disputed that Brook > Tyson on offense. (I was saying that Brook+Lin >>> Tyson+Lin.) I know that you think Lin isn't worth a hunk of moldy bread, but the rest of the NBA strongly disagrees with you, if we can judge by the desperate defense they put on him whenever he was on the floor. Ask Tim Duncan and the Spurs (whom Lin has wrecked repeatedly) whether they think Jeremy is a significant factor.

I think the Nets' offense and defense will be much improved next year, mostly due to Lin, and there is reason to be optimistic for the season.
EDIT: fixed spelling of "Tyson".

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I wouldn't say Nets defense will be much improved due to Lin unless you tell me that the only defense issue Nets had last year was on the PG position. Lin did great on defense in many games last year. But it came with the prices with lowering his offense efficiency because he kept trying to defend multiple positions. It was not his fault because the coach used him more for covering Kamba's weak defense. I think Atkinson will make him focus more on offense and create scoring opportunities for others, guard his own man and do not overplay on the defense.
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