Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread

[Prokorov]

Hello.
Yes I'm a Nets fan and some of y'all know me form ND. I've been banned from there and was searching for better blog for a while. I hate this format that why I've ignored it as long as I could. Long story short.

You are better off here. ND is great for news and updates but as a forum its homer ridden trash. welcome.

1- we ain't got no post game. Randle can provide that and he plays bully ball. We lack strength inside due to Allen being weak. JR also got talent offensivly that compliment our best player. D.LO is very good at P&R, his mid range game almost perfect. Just can't leave him open when he's rolling to the basket, floder, tear drops etc.

We mostly dont have a post game by choice. Nets analytics based approach values a post touch as a bad possession. its also why why dont double team or help on post ups defensively even when we are smaller and mismatched. Allen is weak, but he is 20. once he hits 22, 23, 24 he will start to fill out.

I like Randle, but he is a center here, not a wing/forward. And i dont think we can afford to pay a guy backing up allen 15+ Million and I think Allen is the perfect long term fit for out system at C as he is already an excllent pick and roll player.

2- Caris is my favorite player. Can he be trusted the way he plays? Also will benefit from JR because his mid range game... Just watch Philly playoff games.

I think Caris if fine, he has great chemistry with Allen

4- Harris great role player that got exposed. He will be THE MOST BENEFICIARY one's we get post game.

Harris didnt get exposed, he just missed a ton of wide open shots. something between jitters and cold on a small sample. he missed 15 wide open shots during the series.

5- Keep the cap space for Porzingis. Guy is build for our system. 7.3 Dirk in making
Sorry I don't believe ( and don't want Kyrie and KD ) they coming here. Even if we get them... why destroy this process. Me and VC for press had this argument on ND. He was all about D.Will while I wanted him traded for Westbrook. We could've had B.LO and Russ back in NJ. Let's keep this process right. Din, D.LO, Caris, Harris add Randle and hope we get Porzigis. Money won't be an issue with this owner's. That a chip imo.

Yeah I hate durant as much/more then anyone but you dont pass on durant for KP, thats just dumb. i do love KP though. although i worry where he fits. is he a center? a wing?

[GTR11]

Most lottery picks don't turn into a star and that's what some of you seem to be willing to trade up for.

most non-lotto picks dont turn into starters.

high picks > lower picks

unless you prrefer pinson to lebron

1- there where planty of busts in a past ten years. We had two top 3 picks here. Both were trash.

2- how much young talent can you have on your team and how much time and cap space you can spend.
3- D.LO, Caris, Kurucs, Allen, Dinwiddy, Musa and Harris. Sounds like planty of young talent to develop. It's not like we ain't got draft picks.

[GTR11]

1- I'm not sure Randle is 15 or more type of contract. His market will be limited. He's game fits our system great if you really look at it. Yes we are guard dominant team that thrive through drives and 3 pt shooting. However our lack of physicality and post game been exposed big time. Lay ups are very important come playoffs. Beside Caris and Din no one could score due to being system players, those two natural scorers.
2- Allen imo won't be a top paid C. Sorry he just average big who can be replaced. Mitch, Allen, Robin Lopez, Whiteside etc dime of dozens.
3- Porzigis is unique talent. He's 5 for sure come last 5 min and he's unstoppable. There's no one in this league that can check him, his jumper is cash. In this system with D.LO and Caris you trade all your assets to get him and Randle will be one of them if needed.

[GTR11]

Thx Prohorov. You Cap knowledge would really help me. We all Nets fans at the end of the day no matter how we look at the game and what our preference are.

[GTR11]

I also think LVE is Jimmy Butler in making, just a better scorer.

[MrDollarBills]

Would Nets fans be interested in the Hawks #10 pick for #17, #27 and #31?

sure, why not. we don't need to carry all three picks on the roster as is.

Those assets can be huge if used right. Crabbe is another one, will be even bigger come trade dead line. Unlike any other position shooters always have value no matter how contract looks like.

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I mean yeah if we need to attach prospects to dump Crabbe I understand, but I wouldn't mind moving up so that Marks can work his magic within the top 10.

[GTR11]

Yeah I hate durant as much/more then anyone but you dont pass on durant for KP, thats just dumb. i do love KP though. although i worry where he fits. is he a center? a wing?[/quote]
Yes I will, I won't underestimate human nature. I agree with Barkley and many others that KD ain't build for this city. Not many build for this type of scrutiny that NY provide.

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah I hate durant as much/more then anyone but you dont pass on durant for KP, thats just dumb. i do love KP though. although i worry where he fits. is he a center? a wing?

Yes I will, I won't underestimate human nature. I agree with Barkley and many others that KD ain't build for this city. Not many build for this type of scrutiny that NY provide.[/quote]

Durant would be fine on the Nets imo.

[Prokorov]

1- there where planty of busts in a past ten years. We had two top 3 picks here. Both were trash.

There are significantly more busts picks 11-30 then there are are 1-10. I wouldnt call Kenyon Martin "trash".

2- how much young talent can you have on your team and how much time and cap space you can spend.

There is no league mandate on how much talent you can have.

The league salary cap is projected to be 108 million. This is a soft cap and depending how and when players are signed and in what order you can go significantly over that number

3- D.LO, Caris, Kurucs, Allen, Dinwiddy, Musa and Harris. Sounds like planty of young talent to develop. It's not like we ain't got draft picks.

I'm not sure what your point is? You would rather have less young talent then more young talent?

[Prokorov]

1- I'm not sure Randle is 15 or more type of contract. His market will be limited. He's game fits our system great if you really look at it. Yes we are guard dominant team that thrive through drives and 3 pt shooting. However our lack of physicality and post game been exposed big time. Lay ups are very important come playoffs. Beside Caris and Din no one could score due to being system players, those two natural scorers.

I can't see Randle making less then 15 million given his age, production this season, and the landscape with how many teams have money to spend. I think he is a good fit for us at Center, however, with Allen there it doesnt make sense to pay Randle

2- Allen imo won't be a top paid C. Sorry he just average big who can be replaced. Mitch, Allen, Robin Lopez, Whiteside etc dime of dozens.

I don't view this as a bad thing, I'd rather invest my money in Gaurds and Forwards then a Center. In Todays league you dont win with Centers.

3- Porzigis is unique talent. He's 5 for sure come last 5 min and he's unstoppable. There's no one in this league that can check him, his jumper is cash. In this system with D.LO and Caris you trade all your assets to get him and Randle will be one of them if needed.

KP i'd welcome. both of those guys i believe are free agents, so neither would require a trade. Id be happy with KP, i dont see it with Randle, no need to invest that kind of money at center when we have the ideal fit with Allen. a low usage big who excels in the Pick and roll and has big defensive upside

[NyCeEvO]

Regarding KP, what are the chances that DAL wouldn't match an offer sheet?

While I love KP's talent, I can't see the Mavs letting him go so soon after acquiring him.

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[Prokorov]

Regarding KP, what are the chances that DAL wouldn't match an offer sheet?

While I love KP's talent, I can't see the Mavs letting him go so soon after acquiring him.

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i guess it depends on how they do in free agency. similar situation to us with Dlo. KP has a 17M cap hold, so if he signs an offer sheet that really kills their flexibility.

[kamaze]

Randle would be a great addition. Chris Fleming ran the offense and he's in Chicago now so there will be a new offense one that utilizes a power forward down low.

[NyCeEvO]

Regarding KP, what are the chances that DAL wouldn't match an offer sheet?

While I love KP's talent, I can't see the Mavs letting him go so soon after acquiring him.

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i guess it depends on how they do in free agency. similar situation to us with Dlo. KP has a 17M cap hold, so if he signs an offer sheet that really kills their flexibility.

Not to deride Dallas but haven't they played the free agency game long enough to know that for whatever reason, big time free agents don't go there?

In fact, I think that's precisely why they traded for KP. They don't have to convince him to stay, since they already have the final say on his future.

KP supposedly had the Nets on his list. If that's true, that's awesome. Even though it wouldn't surprise me to see Dallas let Porzingis sign another team's offer sheet (they get to commit fewer years and overall money to him), I don't think Cuban is going to let Porzingis go. They're going to match any offer sheet.

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[NyCeEvO]

Randle would be a great addition. Chris Fleming ran the offense and he's in Chicago now so there will be a new offense one that utilizes a power forward down low.

I don't see that happening at all.

This offense helped the Nets blow past nearly everyone's expectations for the season. They're not going to forsake it just because Fleming is gone.

If anything, I expect Kenny to double-down and commit to it a la Houston (despite my misgivings about its potential to be handicapped in the playoffs).

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[IceManBK1]

if we don't sign any stars..i hope we escape with Hachimura@17 and KZ OKpala@27. Hachimura might drop for being half asian. And Joe Tsai can tap into that jap market $.

Dlo
Harris
Okpala
Hachimura
Allen

I'd like to see Randle reunited with Dlo though. Maybe trade Levert or DW+17 to either Cavs or Hawks for their top 10 pick and draft Deandre Hunter. Then sign Randle for 15mil/yr deals. And hope PJ WAshington drops to our other pick@27 so we have backup stretch 4.
Dlo
Harris
Deandre Hunter
Randle
Allen

[MrDollarBills]

if we don't sign any stars..i hope we escape with Hachimura@17 and KZ OKpala@27. Hachimura might drop for being half asian. And Joe Tsai can tap into that jap market $.

Dlo
Harris
Okpala
Hachimura
Allen

I'd like to see Randle reunited with Dlo though. Maybe trade Levert or DW+17 to either Cavs or Hawks for their top 10 pick and draft Deandre Hunter. Then sign Randle for 15mil/yr deals. And hope PJ WAshington drops to our other pick@27 so we have backup stretch 4.
Dlo
Harris
Deandre Hunter
Randle
Allen

Hachimura's ethnicity has nothing to do with him dropping.

Why he opted to skip the combine is questionable, but I'm assuming he may have gotten a promise. I would have loved to see what his measurements were for height and wing span.

[Prokorov]

Randle would be a great addition. Chris Fleming ran the offense and he's in Chicago now so there will be a new offense one that utilizes a power forward down low.

There will 100% not be a new offense.

[Prokorov]

if we don't sign any stars..i hope we escape with Hachimura@17 and KZ OKpala@27. Hachimura might drop for being half asian. And Joe Tsai can tap into that jap market $.

Dlo
Harris
Okpala
Hachimura
Allen

I'd like to see Randle reunited with Dlo though. Maybe trade Levert or DW+17 to either Cavs or Hawks for their top 10 pick and draft Deandre Hunter. Then sign Randle for 15mil/yr deals. And hope PJ WAshington drops to our other pick@27 so we have backup stretch 4.
Dlo
Harris
Deandre Hunter
Randle
Allen

Hachimura will go top 10. he is just too good a fit for modern NBA. id be ok trading up for him though. and of course i love hunter.

if we bring in randle, its more likely we trade allen then levet. would look more like

Dlo
Harris
Levert
Hunter/Hachimura
Randle

[MrDollarBills]

if we don't sign any stars..i hope we escape with Hachimura@17 and KZ OKpala@27. Hachimura might drop for being half asian. And Joe Tsai can tap into that jap market $.

Dlo
Harris
Okpala
Hachimura
Allen

I'd like to see Randle reunited with Dlo though. Maybe trade Levert or DW+17 to either Cavs or Hawks for their top 10 pick and draft Deandre Hunter. Then sign Randle for 15mil/yr deals. And hope PJ WAshington drops to our other pick@27 so we have backup stretch 4.
Dlo
Harris
Deandre Hunter
Randle
Allen

Hachimura will go top 10. he is just too good a fit for modern NBA. id be ok trading up for him though. and of course i love hunter.

if we bring in randle, its more likely we trade allen then levet. would look more like

Dlo
Harris
Levert
Hunter/Hachimura
Randle

That's a hard pass. I'd rather lock Allen in a gym and force feed him protein and carbs for the next three months.