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Post#221 » by Brooklyn91 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:58 am

One of those nights for everybody. So many things to point out that happened this game. One of the main things is Prince and Shamet. Shamet....whatever I’ll give him a chance but prince gets on my nerves. Solid on the ball defender but everything else with him is just....
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Post#222 » by Brooklyn91 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:58 am

Stone wrote:Graham’s got our number, he came with some big time plays.

I’m not upset over the no tech call. Jay was not thinking when he did that step over.

I believe part of our lackadaisical play can be blamed on the coaching staff. Call a time out and regroup. Shamu should have been yanked way sooner.

The Hornets played well on both ends and earned a hard fought W.

I appreciate the effort of our guys coming back from down 16 to almost stealing tonight game.

Hopefully Spencer injury is not serious.

Graham the same one that dropped bombs on us last season isn’t he?
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Re: GT: Nets @ Hornets - Sun, 12/27/20 | 7:00pm | YES & NBATV 

Post#223 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:03 am

Just a bad game. We underestimated our opponents.

It only matters if we dont learn from our mistakes next game.
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Post#224 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:06 am

To me Prince has to earn it, i recall a quote in the shortened offseason where he was asked, since he didn’t participate in the bubble, what did he do to maintain form or improve? His answer, and I paraphrase, was that of he hadn’t played basketball or touched that since April/March when the league was stopped.

Once I heard that, he was dead to me... can tell the guy stole money from Marks...
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Post#225 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:12 am

Born_Ready wrote:Welp. Hornets beat them in the paint all night long.

Yup, this was the critical piece. It starts with their "bigs", and I use the term loosely. All of their C's were giving up 2-3 inches in height and length to us, but made up for it with tenacity. You can't tell me that Bismack Biyombo and PJ Washington are better players, but they sure brought the fight to us.
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Post#226 » by therealbig3 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:49 am

Was just an annoying game honestly, because we had so many opportunities to win the game that we ultimately didn't capitalize on. It happens though, it's the NBA, and shooting slumps affect everyone. If the supporting cast could hit their open looks, or we played cleaner basketball and didn't turn it over so much, we probably win, but you could say that about a lot of games.

Great to see Kyrie and Durant still on their A game though. It's a long season, sometimes you drop games you should win, because of some uninspired play, which was the case today. We still pretty much erased their lead and had 2 opportunities to tie it up with the ball in the hands of 2 of the league's best scorers...I'll take that every time. Especially Durant's look, that shot has been money throughout his career, just rimmed out today.
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Post#227 » by Khashbaatar » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:49 am

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Born_Ready wrote:Welp. Hornets beat them in the paint all night long.

Yup, this was the critical piece. It starts with their "bigs", and I use the term loosely. All of their C's were giving up 2-3 inches in height and length to us, but made up for it with tenacity. You can't tell me that Bismack Biyombo and PJ Washington are better players, but they sure brought the fight to us.

Bismack Biyombo and PJ Washington were ultra physical, to the point where they seemed to have an intention to injure every opponent in their close vicinity.
We lacked inside presence, enforcer, goon who can handle such physical threat.
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Post#228 » by Khashbaatar » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:55 am

I hope HC Nash load-manages our 2 superstars back-end of b2b against Grizzlies.
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Post#229 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:01 am

It's one of 72. It's not an indictment, and honestly, it's probably not a lesson we'll learn the first time. Hopefully we don't have too many more of these games.

I was glad to see our Big 2 step up, they were ultra aggressive and still really efficient. I don't think they did it selfishly either, even though their assist totals were low. They should have each had a couple more done credited to them, our role players could not hit water from a boat. Not to belabor the point, Kev and Ky shot 19/32, 53%. The rest of the team shot 16/50, 32%. Take TLC's blistering 4-for-4 effort out of the equation, and our supporting cast shot 12/46, a putrid 26%.

You could just chalk it up to a fluke-y shooting performance, and a la Kevin Bacon in Animal House, scream, "ALL IS WELL!!!". But you'd be wrong. Get ready for a steady diet of this playbook from opposing teams. "They're soft, if you punch Brooklyn in the mouth, they'll shy away." That's our rep now, until we prove otherwise.

I don't condone violence, but contending teams MUST have a backbone. The opponent must respect that you will meet their aggression toe to toe. Charlotte did not respect us, and we showed we don't deserve their respect. They are a vastly inferior team from a talent standpoint, their X's and O's were weaker than ours as well IMO. But in between those lines, not gonna lie they had us in the first half. And the second half.
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Post#230 » by Khashbaatar » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:03 am

Old man David West and Zaza Pachulia were the absolute goons for the GSW in 2017.
No one dared to posterize KD without second thought, because on the very next play, offenders would be on the receiving end of hard fouls and life threats.
I hope DJ will embrace that role as the season goes on.
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Post#231 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:53 am

As others have said, a lot to point to for why we lost, but the bottom line was shooting. The shooters missed an absolute ton of wide open looks. You’re not going to win many games like that, doesn’t matter who you’re playing.

Hope Dinwiddie’s injury is minor though.
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Post#232 » by drchaos » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:16 pm

The good thing about not pulling out the win here is that now the players and coaches will have more reason to look at the film and figure out where they need to tighten things up.

With the back to back we will see some of the third string guys get more opportunities to show if Prince and some of the other second string players should get the hook sooner when they are having an off night.
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Post#233 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:52 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Was just an annoying game honestly, because we had so many opportunities to win the game that we ultimately didn't capitalize on. It happens though, it's the NBA, and shooting slumps affect everyone. If the supporting cast could hit their open looks, or we played cleaner basketball and didn't turn it over so much, we probably win, but you could say that about a lot of games.

Great to see Kyrie and Durant still on their A game though. It's a long season, sometimes you drop games you should win, because of some uninspired play, which was the case today. We still pretty much erased their lead and had 2 opportunities to tie it up with the ball in the hands of 2 of the league's best scorers...I'll take that every time. Especially Durant's look, that shot has been money throughout his career, just rimmed out today.


I dont feel like we played uninspired... i just feel like the bench laid an enormous egg. i thought Caris and Shamet brought their usually energy and swag, just bricked wide open shots. Prince usually is pretty even keel. but he typically hits open shots too. Allen played hard, he just struggled defensively. the bench really gave us absolutely 0 outside of the last few minutes when TLC came in, and when he did, we went on a 14-2 run.

Bench guys are gonna be inconsistent, even the best benches... especially on the road. but this wasnt just a bad night, it was comically bad shooting. 2-20 from three from your 3 best bench shooters/scorers on mostly open to uncontest looks is like ymca pickup game bad.
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Post#234 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:57 pm

ecuhus1981 wrote:It's one of 72. It's not an indictment, and honestly, it's probably not a lesson we'll learn the first time. Hopefully we don't have too many more of these games.

I was glad to see our Big 2 step up, they were ultra aggressive and still really efficient. I don't think they did it selfishly either, even though their assist totals were low. They should have each had a couple more done credited to them, our role players could not hit water from a boat. Not to belabor the point, Kev and Ky shot 19/32, 53%. The rest of the team shot 16/50, 32%. Take TLC's blistering 4-for-4 effort out of the equation, and our supporting cast shot 12/46, a putrid 26%.

You could just chalk it up to a fluke-y shooting performance, and a la Kevin Bacon in Animal House, scream, "ALL IS WELL!!!". But you'd be wrong. Get ready for a steady diet of this playbook from opposing teams. "They're soft, if you punch Brooklyn in the mouth, they'll shy away." That's our rep now, until we prove otherwise.

I don't condone violence, but contending teams MUST have a backbone. The opponent must respect that you will meet their aggression toe to toe. Charlotte did not respect us, and we showed we don't deserve their respect. They are a vastly inferior team from a talent standpoint, their X's and O's were weaker than ours as well IMO. But in between those lines, not gonna lie they had us in the first half. And the second half.



If we shoot bad instead of all time comically disgustingly awful we win by 10+

Like if we go 5-20 instead of 2-10 thats an extra 9 points in a game we lost by 2. then factor in they scored a big chunk of points in transition off missed threes. and this isnt like kurucs or jerimiah martin or allen shooting threes its a pair of elite 3-point shooters.

i dont think they punched us in the mouth and bullied us.... if anything maybe we were over confident that the shots would eventually fall and then it was too late for 7-11 to bail us out. but i mean, we objectively outplayed them in the fact we got a ton of open looks all night in the hands of great shooters and scored at will. our starters were +7. bench needs to make wide open looks at at least a poor rate instead of a terrible rate
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Post#235 » by Prokorov » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:58 pm

would be nice to see Nash sit Kyrie and KD and challenge the bench to make up for an off night. thats pop level coaching psychology
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Post#236 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:54 pm

I would exercise a bit of patience. Shamet's career %'s say to me that he will bounce back to form. It's only been 3 games.

I think that one thing I will fault Nash for last night is waiting too long to adjust to Heyward. We needed to force the ball out of his hands and play the percentages. As long as it wasn't Graham getting open three point shots I would have lived with it.

I'm glad that the Nets lost last night. We need to know that teams will be gunning for us and bring their A game. You can't play lax for a half and then expect KD and Kyrie to carry you to victory. We need 4 quarters of execution.
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Post#237 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:57 pm

Prokorov wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:It's one of 72. It's not an indictment, and honestly, it's probably not a lesson we'll learn the first time. Hopefully we don't have too many more of these games.

I was glad to see our Big 2 step up, they were ultra aggressive and still really efficient. I don't think they did it selfishly either, even though their assist totals were low. They should have each had a couple more done credited to them, our role players could not hit water from a boat. Not to belabor the point, Kev and Ky shot 19/32, 53%. The rest of the team shot 16/50, 32%. Take TLC's blistering 4-for-4 effort out of the equation, and our supporting cast shot 12/46, a putrid 26%.

You could just chalk it up to a fluke-y shooting performance, and a la Kevin Bacon in Animal House, scream, "ALL IS WELL!!!". But you'd be wrong. Get ready for a steady diet of this playbook from opposing teams. "They're soft, if you punch Brooklyn in the mouth, they'll shy away." That's our rep now, until we prove otherwise.

I don't condone violence, but contending teams MUST have a backbone. The opponent must respect that you will meet their aggression toe to toe. Charlotte did not respect us, and we showed we don't deserve their respect. They are a vastly inferior team from a talent standpoint, their X's and O's were weaker than ours as well IMO. But in between those lines, not gonna lie they had us in the first half. And the second half.



If we shoot bad instead of all time comically disgustingly awful we win by 10+

Like if we go 5-20 instead of 2-10 thats an extra 9 points in a game we lost by 2. then factor in they scored a big chunk of points in transition off missed threes. and this isnt like kurucs or jerimiah martin or allen shooting threes its a pair of elite 3-point shooters.

i dont think they punched us in the mouth and bullied us.... if anything maybe we were over confident that the shots would eventually fall and then it was too late for 7-11 to bail us out. but i mean, we objectively outplayed them in the fact we got a ton of open looks all night in the hands of great shooters and scored at will. our starters were +7. bench needs to make wide open looks at at least a poor rate instead of a terrible rate


We would have been up huge had we converted half of those open looks. I'm not even sweating this game, but I do think the defensive rebounding was poor last night and that needs to be cleaned up. Allen did his job on the glass, the others not so much.

Last night was not championship level basketball that we are capable of.
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Post#238 » by MGrand15 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:15 pm

My concern with Shamet is how bad he was post-All Star break last year. He hit a NASTY slump. He was bad in the playoffs. It's easy to just assume he'll turn it around but Clipper fans were totally fine with him gone.

He needs to turn it around quick. Going 0 for 8 on open 3s is mentally draining. He needs to be tough enough to bounce back and not lose his confidence.
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Post#239 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:18 pm

MGrand15 wrote:My concern with Shamet is how bad he was post-All Star break last year. He hit a NASTY slump. He was bad in the playoffs. It's easy to just assume he'll turn it around but Clipper fans were totally fine with him gone.

He needs to turn it around quick. Going 0 for 8 on open 3s is mentally draining. He needs to be tough enough to bounce back and not lose his confidence.


Well, with Spencer now gone, Shamet most likely gets put into the starting line up since we need LeVert in the 2nd unit. He'll have his chance.
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Post#240 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:34 pm

I feel bad for Dinwiddie, man this SUCKS. Whether we are able to keep him long term, this was supposed to be his year in the sun, finally! Instead, he continues to be the UGK of the NBA, most known unknown.

I'll be honest, I was not prepared for this. I didn't think it looked that bad. Shoot.
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