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Post#221 » by Prokorov » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:32 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Lots of overreacting here. We did a lot of experimenting last night.

1. We played big at the front court. I think this would've worked with Jeff Green instead of Blake last season but Blake isn't good enough to play 4 against such a good defensive team. Maybe as a 2nd unit thing - it's fine. Milwaukee is too relentless flooding the paint. This needs to be Millsap in this spot - he's a much better shooter + a little more dynamic with the ball.

2. Claxton was guarding Middleton. This is the first time he's been a primary defender on a wing. It's an OK idea but I'm not a fan. He's not comfortable fighting over screens (no center is). His transition defense was a mess guarding a wing. He's great on switches because it's just 1v1. Having to play TEAM and off the ball defense as a perimeter player is a whole different story.

3. LMA. I'm not really a fan. I think the team is hoping he can a viable center against the big teams. There aren't many but Embiid + Giannis/Lopez + maybe the Lakers? LMA is our biggest player. Let's see how he does against Philly. Milwaukee's offense is too spread for him to defend. He's a bad fit with Harden too.

4. Bruce didn't play. I think the idea was to give James Johnson his minutes and see if he could hold his own against Giannis. I think the answer there was hell no. I don't think JJ is a rotation guy. He's too erratic.

5. People need to relax about the effort. It sucked for sure but this team got up for EVERY big game last year. We crushed teams over .500 and we crushed national TV games. I think this is just a fluke.

Overall, I respect the experiments. This is the time to do it. We need to see if a "big" lineup works against Giannis. Still though - we sacrificed too much of our overall identity trying to match up. I think we need to go:

Carter
Harden
Harris
KD
Claxton

Starting line up damn near every game. Elite spacing needs to be more of a priority without Kyrie around. Off the bench - Mills, Brown, Millsap, Blake - with some Bembry mixed in. LMA + Johnson need to be situational guys.


I agree on all of this. perfectly crafted and spot on. hopefully the staff is inline with this thinking. I know we have clifford as a "consultant" but marks may want to consider someone like lawrence frank to sit on the bench and run the Xs and Os like when Kidd was here. it didnt work then because of kidds ego but maybe nash wouldnt be so obtuse to it given he had dantoni here too
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Post#222 » by My2CentsR » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:36 pm

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Bro stop.

I like the Bulls but not as a serious contender in the East. No shot of beating the Nets or Bucks in a playoff series.


First of all, don't assume I'm a bro. I understand it's not likely, esp. when it comes to Bucks, but I could imagine many teams (no offense but Nets included) falling off the wagon as the season advances due to injuries (from age, luck, and injury history) and/or lack of cohesion. Who knows if things with Irving/Durant/Harden will ever be consistent enough to progress. We have youth on our side with the oldest player on our team, DeRozan, being 32, and obviously Zach LaVine is no scrub. I know that preseason is preseason, but we are undefeated which is noteworthy considering the major roster shakeup we've just had. If we get to the finals, we don't meet every team. If Hawks squeaked through and beat the Bucks last year, you guys would have likely been champs and Durant's toes wouldn't be trending, so you know well how match ups and injuries come into play after 90+ games.


you cant win in the playoffs if you dont make the playoffs. the bulls likely wont make the playoffs. youth is not an asset. preseason doesnt matter. bulls looked awful vs the worst team ni the league last night. Unless they trade vucevic, they will suck


You forgot to mention that we won last night. That means we've won every game so far. And how is youth not an asset unless all you have are rookies??? If I were to bet on it, CP3, Harden, Embiid, Anthony Davis, and, if he plays, Irving will all be injured at critical points in the playoffs. I obviously don't wish injuries on anyone, but the best predictor of the future is the past. I'm being particularly glass half full about winning with plenty of luck needed, but not making it to the playoffs sounds ridiculous based on Lavine + a much upgraded roster that has clicked quickly and doesn't foreshadow VIP locker drama. I'll give you the raised eyebrow on Vucevic. He averaged 21 ppg and 11 rebounds last year but it's cringeworthy to see him drive just to put up missed layups at his height. But I'll give him time, he's adjusting to a new roster and still continues to put up good numbers.
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Post#223 » by Prokorov » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:41 pm

My2CentsR wrote:You forgot to mention that we won last night.


you scraped by the worst team in the league. yawn.

That means we've won every game so far. And how is youth not an asset unless all you have are rookies??? If I were to bet on it, CP3, Harden, Embiid, Anthony Davis, and, if he plays, Irving will all be injured at critical points in the playoffs. I obviously don't wish injuries on anyone, but the best predictor of the future is the past.


those teams are still better then the bulls, even with injuries. the nets won 50+ with tons of injuries last year.

I'm being particularly glass half full about winning with plenty of luck needed, but not making it to the playoffs sounds ridiculous based on Lavine + a much upgraded roster that has clicked quickly and doesn't foreshadow VIP locker drama. I'll give you the raised eyebrow on Vucevic. He averaged 21 ppg and 11 rebounds last year but it's cringeworthy to see him drive just to put up missed layups at his height. But I'll give him time, he's adjusting to a new roster and still continues to put up good numbers.


i dont view the roster as upgraded. vucevic is such a negative player too. you can "raise the eyebrow" all you want but bulls were worse last year after aquiring him and he is even bigger issue this year with derozan on the team. awful mix of players. Vucevic is the biggest empty stats player in the league

no one is worried about the bulls. and you being here is really unfortunate since alot of us like lavine and ball and williams but your going to make us hate on you with these chest thumping over a lotto team with awful construction and the league most empty stats player
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Post#224 » by NetsWorld » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:46 pm

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First of all, don't assume I'm a bro. I understand it's not likely, esp. when it comes to Bucks, but I could imagine many teams (no offense but Nets included) falling off the wagon as the season advances due to injuries (from age, luck, and injury history) and/or lack of cohesion. Who knows if things with Irving/Durant/Harden will ever be consistent enough to progress. We have youth on our side with the oldest player on our team, DeRozan, being 32, and obviously Zach LaVine is no scrub. I know that preseason is preseason, but we are undefeated which is noteworthy considering the major roster shakeup we've just had. If we get to the finals, we don't meet every team. If Hawks squeaked through and beat the Bucks last year, you guys would have likely been champs and Durant's toes wouldn't be trending, so you know well how match ups and injuries come into play after 90+ games.


you cant win in the playoffs if you dont make the playoffs. the bulls likely wont make the playoffs. youth is not an asset. preseason doesnt matter. bulls looked awful vs the worst team ni the league last night. Unless they trade vucevic, they will suck


You forgot to mention that we won last night. That means we've won every game so far. And how is youth not an asset unless all you have are rookies??? If I were to bet on it, CP3, Harden, Embiid, Anthony Davis, and, if he plays, Irving will all be injured at critical points in the playoffs. I obviously don't wish injuries on anyone, but the best predictor of the future is the past. I'm being particularly glass half full about winning with plenty of luck needed, but not making it to the playoffs sounds ridiculous based on Lavine + a much upgraded roster that has clicked quickly and doesn't foreshadow VIP locker drama. I'll give you the raised eyebrow on Vucevic. He averaged 21 ppg and 11 rebounds last year but it's cringeworthy to see him drive just to put up missed layups at his height. But I'll give him time, he's adjusting to a new roster and still continues to put up good numbers.



The East is deep and I don't think the Bulls will get by the top three in the East, hell even in the Sixers. Bucks, Heat, Nets and Sixers are the top four. While we do have to worry about Kyrie's future, we are the one's with KD/Harden, not the Bulls. Also, Lavine is a FA next year, do you not think he is paying attention to the Nets right now? Harden will opt out(and re-sign) and Kyrie will probably end up not renewing his contract so the Nets with KD will have space to sign him if that happens. Not saying it's a guarantee but I would be afraid of Lavine leaving the Bulls for the Nets; in today's league it is definitely possible. Just sayin'
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Post#225 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:12 pm

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My2CentsR wrote:
First of all, don't assume I'm a bro. I understand it's not likely, esp. when it comes to Bucks, but I could imagine many teams (no offense but Nets included) falling off the wagon as the season advances due to injuries (from age, luck, and injury history) and/or lack of cohesion. Who knows if things with Irving/Durant/Harden will ever be consistent enough to progress. We have youth on our side with the oldest player on our team, DeRozan, being 32, and obviously Zach LaVine is no scrub. I know that preseason is preseason, but we are undefeated which is noteworthy considering the major roster shakeup we've just had. If we get to the finals, we don't meet every team. If Hawks squeaked through and beat the Bucks last year, you guys would have likely been champs and Durant's toes wouldn't be trending, so you know well how match ups and injuries come into play after 90+ games.


you cant win in the playoffs if you dont make the playoffs. the bulls likely wont make the playoffs. youth is not an asset. preseason doesnt matter. bulls looked awful vs the worst team ni the league last night. Unless they trade vucevic, they will suck


You forgot to mention that we won last night. That means we've won every game so far. And how is youth not an asset unless all you have are rookies??? If I were to bet on it, CP3, Harden, Embiid, Anthony Davis, and, if he plays, Irving will all be injured at critical points in the playoffs. I obviously don't wish injuries on anyone, but the best predictor of the future is the past. I'm being particularly glass half full about winning with plenty of luck needed, but not making it to the playoffs sounds ridiculous based on Lavine + a much upgraded roster that has clicked quickly and doesn't foreshadow VIP locker drama. I'll give you the raised eyebrow on Vucevic. He averaged 21 ppg and 11 rebounds last year but it's cringeworthy to see him drive just to put up missed layups at his height. But I'll give him time, he's adjusting to a new roster and still continues to put up good numbers.


I don't even think that you guys are better than the Knicks, who I have at around at least the 5-6 seed at worst. No one cares about preseason wins and you guys barely beating a lottery team. Bulls aren't a bad team, but you guys are most likely a play in tourney team if anything.

Harden is also generally an iron man player, so I'm not sure why its a lock that he will be injured in the playoffs. Sounds more like wishful thinking to me.
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Post#226 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:13 pm

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you cant win in the playoffs if you dont make the playoffs. the bulls likely wont make the playoffs. youth is not an asset. preseason doesnt matter. bulls looked awful vs the worst team ni the league last night. Unless they trade vucevic, they will suck


You forgot to mention that we won last night. That means we've won every game so far. And how is youth not an asset unless all you have are rookies??? If I were to bet on it, CP3, Harden, Embiid, Anthony Davis, and, if he plays, Irving will all be injured at critical points in the playoffs. I obviously don't wish injuries on anyone, but the best predictor of the future is the past. I'm being particularly glass half full about winning with plenty of luck needed, but not making it to the playoffs sounds ridiculous based on Lavine + a much upgraded roster that has clicked quickly and doesn't foreshadow VIP locker drama. I'll give you the raised eyebrow on Vucevic. He averaged 21 ppg and 11 rebounds last year but it's cringeworthy to see him drive just to put up missed layups at his height. But I'll give him time, he's adjusting to a new roster and still continues to put up good numbers.



The East is deep and I don't think the Bulls will get by the top three in the East, hell even in the Sixers. Bucks, Heat, Nets and Sixers are the top four. While we do have to worry about Kyrie's future, we are the one's with KD/Harden, not the Bulls. Also, Lavine is a FA next year, do you not think he is paying attention to the Nets right now? Harden will opt out(and re-sign) and Kyrie will probably end up not renewing his contract so the Nets with KD will have space to sign him if that happens. Not saying it's a guarantee but I would be afraid of Lavine leaving the Bulls for the Nets; in today's league it is definitely possible. Just sayin'


we won't have cap space to sign Zach even if Kyrie leaves.
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Post#227 » by My2CentsR » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:26 pm

I'm worried about LaVine leaving in the future as well, but he's playing here now. KD is obviously your prized possession, and there's not much I can say about him. But as good as he is, Harden's starting to sour. He continues to be forever the bridesmaid regardless of who he plays with or what accolades he picks up. Aging and not being in the shape he used to be in will increase the likelihood of him remaining on the injury report. I'm also curious to see whether the offensive fouling will be enforced as the season moves forward b/c that would hinder him quite a bit. But taking things one step at a time, I'll see how we fare against the Sixers if Embiid has to shoulder Simmons role over the course of a full season.
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Post#228 » by NetsWorld » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:26 pm

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My2CentsR wrote:
You forgot to mention that we won last night. That means we've won every game so far. And how is youth not an asset unless all you have are rookies??? If I were to bet on it, CP3, Harden, Embiid, Anthony Davis, and, if he plays, Irving will all be injured at critical points in the playoffs. I obviously don't wish injuries on anyone, but the best predictor of the future is the past. I'm being particularly glass half full about winning with plenty of luck needed, but not making it to the playoffs sounds ridiculous based on Lavine + a much upgraded roster that has clicked quickly and doesn't foreshadow VIP locker drama. I'll give you the raised eyebrow on Vucevic. He averaged 21 ppg and 11 rebounds last year but it's cringeworthy to see him drive just to put up missed layups at his height. But I'll give him time, he's adjusting to a new roster and still continues to put up good numbers.



The East is deep and I don't think the Bulls will get by the top three in the East, hell even in the Sixers. Bucks, Heat, Nets and Sixers are the top four. While we do have to worry about Kyrie's future, we are the one's with KD/Harden, not the Bulls. Also, Lavine is a FA next year, do you not think he is paying attention to the Nets right now? Harden will opt out(and re-sign) and Kyrie will probably end up not renewing his contract so the Nets with KD will have space to sign him if that happens. Not saying it's a guarantee but I would be afraid of Lavine leaving the Bulls for the Nets; in today's league it is definitely possible. Just sayin'


we won't have cap space to sign Zach even if Kyrie leaves.


I trust push comes to shove, with Tsai's vision and Mark's being the GM, if they wanted to do it, they will find a way. My real point to the Bulls fan is that his team does not have KD nor do they have Harden, we do...... And we are a prime destination for other stars in this league and if he thinks Lavine is not looking at the Nets as a potential destination, he would be out of his mind and he should be concerned about Lavine leaving to a team within the conference.
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Post#229 » by My2CentsR » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:29 pm

I'm worried about LaVine leaving in the future as well, but he's playing here now. KD is obviously your prized possession, and there's not much I can say about him. But as good as he is, Harden's starting to sour. He continues to be forever the bridesmaid regardless of who he plays with or what accolades he picks up. Aging and not being in the shape he used to be in will increase the likelihood of him remaining on the injury report. I'm also curious to see whether the offensive fouling will be enforced as the season moves forward b/c that would hinder him quite a bit. But taking things one step at a time, I'll see how we fare against the Sixers if Embiid has to shoulder Simmons role over the course of a full season.
My2CentsR wrote:I'm worried about LaVine leaving in the future as well, but he's playing here now. KD is obviously your prized possession, and there's not much I can say about him. But as good as he is, Harden's starting to sour. He continues to be forever the bridesmaid regardless of who he plays with or what accolades he picks up. Aging and not being in the shape he used to be in will increase the likelihood of him remaining on the injury report. I'm also curious to see whether the offensive fouling will be enforced as the season moves forward b/c that would hinder him quite a bit. But taking things one step at a time, I'll see how we fare against the Sixers if Embiid has to shoulder Simmons role over the course of a full season.
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Post#230 » by My2CentsR » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:40 pm

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My2CentsR wrote:You forgot to mention that we won last night.


you scraped by the worst team in the league. yawn.

That means we've won every game so far. And how is youth not an asset unless all you have are rookies??? If I were to bet on it, CP3, Harden, Embiid, Anthony Davis, and, if he plays, Irving will all be injured at critical points in the playoffs. I obviously don't wish injuries on anyone, but the best predictor of the future is the past.


those teams are still better then the bulls, even with injuries. the nets won 50+ with tons of injuries last year.

I'm being particularly glass half full about winning with plenty of luck needed, but not making it to the playoffs sounds ridiculous based on Lavine + a much upgraded roster that has clicked quickly and doesn't foreshadow VIP locker drama. I'll give you the raised eyebrow on Vucevic. He averaged 21 ppg and 11 rebounds last year but it's cringeworthy to see him drive just to put up missed layups at his height. But I'll give him time, he's adjusting to a new roster and still continues to put up good numbers.


i dont view the roster as upgraded. vucevic is such a negative player too. you can "raise the eyebrow" all you want but bulls were worse last year after aquiring him and he is even bigger issue this year with derozan on the team. awful mix of players. Vucevic is the biggest empty stats player in the league

no one is worried about the bulls. and you being here is really unfortunate since alot of us like lavine and ball and williams but your going to make us hate on you with these chest thumping over a lotto team with awful construction and the league most empty stats player


How do my posts come of as chest thumping? I was mainly curious about how Nets fans felt about the Bucks this year and I made an argument about why you shouldn't sleep on the Bulls :roll: . I'll wait another 10-20 games and reassess. Feel free to stop by the Bulls board and offer takes of your own if you don't agree with someone.
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Post#231 » by NetsWorld » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:41 pm

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I'm worried about LaVine leaving in the future as well, but he's playing here now. KD is obviously your prized possession, and there's not much I can say about him. But as good as he is, Harden's starting to sour. He continues to be forever the bridesmaid regardless of who he plays with or what accolades he picks up. Aging and not being in the shape he used to be in will increase the likelihood of him remaining on the injury report. I'm also curious to see whether the offensive fouling will be enforced as the season moves forward b/c that would hinder him quite a bit. But taking things one step at a time, I'll see how we fare against the Sixers if Embiid has to shoulder Simmons role over the course of a full season.
My2CentsR wrote:I'm worried about LaVine leaving in the future as well, but he's playing here now. KD is obviously your prized possession, and there's not much I can say about him. But as good as he is, Harden's starting to sour. He continues to be forever the bridesmaid regardless of who he plays with or what accolades he picks up. Aging and not being in the shape he used to be in will increase the likelihood of him remaining on the injury report. I'm also curious to see whether the offensive fouling will be enforced as the season moves forward b/c that would hinder him quite a bit. But taking things one step at a time, I'll see how we fare against the Sixers if Embiid has to shoulder Simmons role over the course of a full season.



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Post#232 » by Prokorov » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:51 pm

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you cant win in the playoffs if you dont make the playoffs. the bulls likely wont make the playoffs. youth is not an asset. preseason doesnt matter. bulls looked awful vs the worst team ni the league last night. Unless they trade vucevic, they will suck


You forgot to mention that we won last night. That means we've won every game so far. And how is youth not an asset unless all you have are rookies??? If I were to bet on it, CP3, Harden, Embiid, Anthony Davis, and, if he plays, Irving will all be injured at critical points in the playoffs. I obviously don't wish injuries on anyone, but the best predictor of the future is the past. I'm being particularly glass half full about winning with plenty of luck needed, but not making it to the playoffs sounds ridiculous based on Lavine + a much upgraded roster that has clicked quickly and doesn't foreshadow VIP locker drama. I'll give you the raised eyebrow on Vucevic. He averaged 21 ppg and 11 rebounds last year but it's cringeworthy to see him drive just to put up missed layups at his height. But I'll give him time, he's adjusting to a new roster and still continues to put up good numbers.



The East is deep and I don't think the Bulls will get by the top three in the East, hell even in the Sixers. Bucks, Heat, Nets and Sixers are the top four. While we do have to worry about Kyrie's future, we are the one's with KD/Harden, not the Bulls. Also, Lavine is a FA next year, do you not think he is paying attention to the Nets right now? Harden will opt out(and re-sign) and Kyrie will probably end up not renewing his contract so the Nets with KD will have space to sign him if that happens. Not saying it's a guarantee but I would be afraid of Lavine leaving the Bulls for the Nets; in today's league it is definitely possible. Just sayin'


Even if you remove all of Kyries salary the nets are still over the salary cap.
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Post#233 » by gigantes » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:07 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:Lots of overreacting here. We did a lot of experimenting last night.

I agree on all of this. perfectly crafted and spot on. hopefully the staff is inline with this thinking...

Just wanted to say that I appreciate both of your thoughts & analysis a lot, as I do with a couple other posters here.

As a casual fan (former streetballer with no training) who often reads about the game after the fact, it helps me a lot to hear these breakdowns. I don't understand all the concepts going on, but I'm trying...

So thanks again, and keep it coming please, gentlemen.

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Post#234 » by NetsWorld » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:50 pm

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KD35Netted wrote:
My2CentsR wrote:
You forgot to mention that we won last night. That means we've won every game so far. And how is youth not an asset unless all you have are rookies??? If I were to bet on it, CP3, Harden, Embiid, Anthony Davis, and, if he plays, Irving will all be injured at critical points in the playoffs. I obviously don't wish injuries on anyone, but the best predictor of the future is the past. I'm being particularly glass half full about winning with plenty of luck needed, but not making it to the playoffs sounds ridiculous based on Lavine + a much upgraded roster that has clicked quickly and doesn't foreshadow VIP locker drama. I'll give you the raised eyebrow on Vucevic. He averaged 21 ppg and 11 rebounds last year but it's cringeworthy to see him drive just to put up missed layups at his height. But I'll give him time, he's adjusting to a new roster and still continues to put up good numbers.



The East is deep and I don't think the Bulls will get by the top three in the East, hell even in the Sixers. Bucks, Heat, Nets and Sixers are the top four. While we do have to worry about Kyrie's future, we are the one's with KD/Harden, not the Bulls. Also, Lavine is a FA next year, do you not think he is paying attention to the Nets right now? Harden will opt out(and re-sign) and Kyrie will probably end up not renewing his contract so the Nets with KD will have space to sign him if that happens. Not saying it's a guarantee but I would be afraid of Lavine leaving the Bulls for the Nets; in today's league it is definitely possible. Just sayin'


Even if you remove all of Kyries salary the nets are still over the salary cap.



Nets could always make other moves to create more space. With Harden opting out, Kyrie most likely opting out or getting moves somehow, a lot of the players will be coming off of one year contracts, particularly the vets, Harris can be traded to a team with a shooting need, Nets can easily overhaul their roster and retool around KD. With the best player in the world, we are a team other stars will want to come and play for, I am sure Lavine is looking at that, as are other unnamed players we presently don't know about. Nothing is impossible in this league.
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Post#235 » by Prokorov » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:01 am

KD35Netted wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
KD35Netted wrote:

The East is deep and I don't think the Bulls will get by the top three in the East, hell even in the Sixers. Bucks, Heat, Nets and Sixers are the top four. While we do have to worry about Kyrie's future, we are the one's with KD/Harden, not the Bulls. Also, Lavine is a FA next year, do you not think he is paying attention to the Nets right now? Harden will opt out(and re-sign) and Kyrie will probably end up not renewing his contract so the Nets with KD will have space to sign him if that happens. Not saying it's a guarantee but I would be afraid of Lavine leaving the Bulls for the Nets; in today's league it is definitely possible. Just sayin'


Even if you remove all of Kyries salary the nets are still over the salary cap.



Nets could always make other moves to create more space. With Harden opting out, Kyrie most likely opting out or getting moves somehow, a lot of the players will be coming off of one year contracts, particularly the vets, Harris can be traded to a team with a shooting need, Nets can easily overhaul their roster and retool around KD. With the best player in the world, we are a team other stars will want to come and play for, I am sure Lavine is looking at that, as are other unnamed players we presently don't know about. Nothing is impossible in this league.



You dont ditch harden and harris to sign lavine.
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Post#236 » by NetsWorld » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:34 am

Prokorov wrote:
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Even if you remove all of Kyries salary the nets are still over the salary cap.



Nets could always make other moves to create more space. With Harden opting out, Kyrie most likely opting out or getting moves somehow, a lot of the players will be coming off of one year contracts, particularly the vets, Harris can be traded to a team with a shooting need, Nets can easily overhaul their roster and retool around KD. With the best player in the world, we are a team other stars will want to come and play for, I am sure Lavine is looking at that, as are other unnamed players we presently don't know about. Nothing is impossible in this league.



You dont ditch harden and harris to sign lavine.


What if there was a way to re-sign Harden and bring on Lavine. He’s 25, you absolutely target him as he is a young superstar. Nets can always fill out their roster to complement three stars.
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Post#237 » by Prokorov » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:54 am

KD35Netted wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
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Nets could always make other moves to create more space. With Harden opting out, Kyrie most likely opting out or getting moves somehow, a lot of the players will be coming off of one year contracts, particularly the vets, Harris can be traded to a team with a shooting need, Nets can easily overhaul their roster and retool around KD. With the best player in the world, we are a team other stars will want to come and play for, I am sure Lavine is looking at that, as are other unnamed players we presently don't know about. Nothing is impossible in this league.



You dont ditch harden and harris to sign lavine.


What if there was a way to re-sign Harden and bring on Lavine. He’s 25, you absolutely target him as he is a young superstar. Nets can always fill out their roster to complement three stars.


there isnt.

Durant will make 45 million next season
Hardens cap hold is 47 million.

thats 92 million just for those 2. even with renouncing everyone and trading joe harris and mills for cap space we still wouldnt even be able to sign lavine... unless he wants to take a deal for like 12 million per year.
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Post#238 » by HardenGoat » Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:38 am

You do not want to trade Harden. Yes we have lost an offensive punch with Kyrie but this is not the time to be wishing for a Rockets Harden. He is going to focus on getting the role players involved and buying in. This is a marathon and one game means nothing. The other thing is his extension. This is not about money for him. He didn’t sign because he wants some control over the direction of the team. I can see him sacrificing money at a later point to make sure the team gets more assets to improve our odds. This is a guy that wants to win a chip and he’s going to do whatever it takes. We are lucky to have him. I have faith we have what it takes and things will fall into place as we go forward.
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Post#239 » by NetsWorld » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am

HardenGoat wrote:You do not want to trade Harden. Yes we have lost an offensive punch with Kyrie but this is not the time to be wishing for a Rockets Harden. He is going to focus on getting the role players involved and buying in. This is a marathon and one game means nothing. The other thing is his extension. This is not about money for him. He didn’t sign because he wants some control over the direction of the team. I can see him sacrificing money at a later point to make sure the team gets more assets to improve our odds. This is a guy that wants to win a chip and he’s going to do whatever it takes. We are lucky to have him. I have faith we have what it takes and things will fall into place as we go forward.


Never said trade Harden, I said he will opt out which makes him a FA and maybe he could structure his contract to help the Nets if Ky doesn’t come back. Anything can happen between now and 2022 FA. To say the Nets won’t find another solid or star player in today’s world where they have become a prime destination would be ridiculous. This is not the 2009 Nets.
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Post#240 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:20 am

The very idea of trading Harden is insane.
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