Early discussion on the 2023 offseason

[3pt_chucker]

I'd trade everything except Bridges for SGA but sadly the Thunder will still say no

[Marvin Martian]

OKC has a young rising team and a massive war chest of picks. We have nothing that they want. Forget SGA. They won't even pick up the phone for Giddy.

[Hello Brooklyn]

How do you guys feel about trading for Jimmy Butler?

He probably wants to team up with other stars instead. But worth considering.

[3pt_chucker]

One can't help but think if KD had remained patient, the Nets would have had the ability to properly reload in the offseason. There will be multiple #2 level players that will probably be available.

Sadly, I don't think he was ever truly committed to Brooklyn as a franchise and only to what star(s) he's next too. If the Suns flame out in the playoffs, I won't be shocked if they make another move like trading Ayton for something.

Anyway this is all in the past now. I'm not sure trading for Dame or Butler alone moves the needle enough to truly compete with Boston, Mil, Phil, Cleveland.

Even in a total pipedream, a Dame-Bridges-Butler trio would be a spicy team but would be a very small window (2 years max?) but could definitely compete at the top. Probably be too old and injury prone tho.

[MrDollarBills]

One can't help but think if KD had remained patient, the Nets would have had the ability to properly reload in the offseason. There will be multiple #2 level players that will probably be available.

Sadly, I don't think he was ever truly committed to Brooklyn as a franchise and only to what star(s) he's next too. If the Suns flame out in the playoffs, I won't be shocked if they make another move like trading Ayton for something.

Anyway this is all in the past now. I'm not sure trading for Dame or Butler alone moves the needle enough to truly compete with Boston, Mil, Phil, Cleveland.

Even in a total pipedream, a Dame-Bridges-Butler trio would be a spicy team but would be a very small window (2 years max?) but could definitely compete at the top. Probably be too old and injury prone tho.

I'll take the picks. KD was only here because he was following Kyrie around.

[NetsWorld]

If we do pursue Damian and there is truth to him wanting the Nets like Eddie G says, then you have to hope a follow up trade is made. Boston is a team to watch out for in the PO. If they lose at any point, I can see them making changes. If you get Dame, you have to get Jaylen Brown after. JB, Dame and Bridges puts us back in contention and I do feel like that team can beat the Bucks

[Tha King]

One can't help but think if KD had remained patient, the Nets would have had the ability to properly reload in the offseason. There will be multiple #2 level players that will probably be available.

Sadly, I don't think he was ever truly committed to Brooklyn as a franchise and only to what star(s) he's next too. If the Suns flame out in the playoffs, I won't be shocked if they make another move like trading Ayton for something.

Anyway this is all in the past now. I'm not sure trading for Dame or Butler alone moves the needle enough to truly compete with Boston, Mil, Phil, Cleveland.

Even in a total pipedream, a Dame-Bridges-Butler trio would be a spicy team but would be a very small window (2 years max?) but could definitely compete at the top. Probably be too old and injury prone tho.

Agree. Which is why someone like Trae if he's available I think makes sense because you can build out a team with him for a while to get to that level. By that point the draft picks going to the Rockets would no longer be a factor either.

[Tha King]

thoughts on Christian Wood? He'll be a FA this offseason and seems like he may not return to the Mavs. To get him it would take the mMLE or S&T.

His non-basketball fit is questionable as he's been on many different teams for someone as statistically productive as him but he's the type of big you'd want next to Clax.

[MGrand15]

The only move that turns into a contender right away is Dame.

Ben Simmons + Cam Thomas + 4 1st round picks for Dame works. It might seem like a meh price but I think he's only an option if Lillard tells the Blazers he wants to come here and they do him a solid. Dame also has injury risks and is owed 200+ million over the next 4 years.

Right now, all of our good lineups are elite on defense. So elite that we're beating teams with some pretty terrible offense. If we can replace Dinwiddie with Lillard, those guys are about the same defensively and Lillard is a MASSIVE upgrade on offense. And it pushes Dinwiddie to the bench where he's at his best on a really good team.

Dame might've been the best guard in the league this year and he's a super high character guy. I'd bet on him any day.

[MrDollarBills]

thoughts on Christian Wood? He'll be a FA this offseason and seems like he may not return to the Mavs. To get him it would take the mMLE or S&T.

His non-basketball fit is questionable as he's been on many different teams for someone as statistically productive as him but he's the type of big you'd want next to Clax.

He's another headcase. I'll pass.

[MrDollarBills]

The only move that turns into a contender right away is Dame.

Ben Simmons + Cam Thomas + 4 1st round picks for Dame works. It might seem like a meh price but I think he's only an option if Lillard tells the Blazers he wants to come here and they do him a solid. Dame also has injury risks and is owed 200+ million over the next 4 years.

Right now, all of our good lineups are elite on defense. So elite that we're beating teams with some pretty terrible offense. If we can replace Dinwiddie with Lillard, those guys are about the same defensively and Lillard is a MASSIVE upgrade on offense. And it pushes Dinwiddie to the bench where he's at his best on a really good team.

Dame might've been the best guard in the league this year and he's a super high character guy. I'd bet on him any day.

Pairing Lillard with Bridges and Claxton is a gamble I'd take, but the idea of paying 4 1sts makes my head hurt

Co signed as well, Lillard is the type of high character guy you want to clean up the stench of Kyrie and KD.

[3pt_chucker]

The only move that turns into a contender right away is Dame.

Ben Simmons + Cam Thomas + 4 1st round picks for Dame works. It might seem like a meh price but I think he's only an option if Lillard tells the Blazers he wants to come here and they do him a solid. Dame also has injury risks and is owed 200+ million over the next 4 years.

Right now, all of our good lineups are elite on defense. So elite that we're beating teams with some pretty terrible offense. If we can replace Dinwiddie with Lillard, those guys are about the same defensively and Lillard is a MASSIVE upgrade on offense. And it pushes Dinwiddie to the bench where he's at his best on a really good team.

Dame might've been the best guard in the league this year and he's a super high character guy. I'd bet on him any day.

Yuck, to trading 4 FRPs. Two of those better be massively protected. I guess trading Ben requires 1 FRP maybe.

[Eatgreenz]

The only move that turns into a contender right away is Dame.

Ben Simmons + Cam Thomas + 4 1st round picks for Dame works. It might seem like a meh price but I think he's only an option if Lillard tells the Blazers he wants to come here and they do him a solid. Dame also has injury risks and is owed 200+ million over the next 4 years.

Right now, all of our good lineups are elite on defense. So elite that we're beating teams with some pretty terrible offense. If we can replace Dinwiddie with Lillard, those guys are about the same defensively and Lillard is a MASSIVE upgrade on offense. And it pushes Dinwiddie to the bench where he's at his best on a really good team.

Dame might've been the best guard in the league this year and he's a super high character guy. I'd bet on him any day.

IDK about that bro 4 picks kinda steep we would be helping the Blazers do a full rebuild with getting Dames contract. We shouldnt have to give up that many picks, and its not like 28-30yrs.

[Hello Brooklyn]

One can't help but think if KD had remained patient, the Nets would have had the ability to properly reload in the offseason. There will be multiple #2 level players that will probably be available.

Sadly, I don't think he was ever truly committed to Brooklyn as a franchise and only to what star(s) he's next too. If the Suns flame out in the playoffs, I won't be shocked if they make another move like trading Ayton for something.

Anyway this is all in the past now. I'm not sure trading for Dame or Butler alone moves the needle enough to truly compete with Boston, Mil, Phil, Cleveland.

Even in a total pipedream, a Dame-Bridges-Butler trio would be a spicy team but would be a very small window (2 years max?) but could definitely compete at the top. Probably be too old and injury prone tho.

KD is a quitter. He only wants to play on Superteams.

Even if we add a 2nd star the team wouldn't be as good of a chance as the Suns right now. In his mind.

He was committed to the Nets as long as he had other stars with him

[Hello Brooklyn]

The only move that turns into a contender right away is Dame.

Ben Simmons + Cam Thomas + 4 1st round picks for Dame works. It might seem like a meh price but I think he's only an option if Lillard tells the Blazers he wants to come here and they do him a solid. Dame also has injury risks and is owed 200+ million over the next 4 years.

Right now, all of our good lineups are elite on defense. So elite that we're beating teams with some pretty terrible offense. If we can replace Dinwiddie with Lillard, those guys are about the same defensively and Lillard is a MASSIVE upgrade on offense. And it pushes Dinwiddie to the bench where he's at his best on a really good team.

Dame might've been the best guard in the league this year and he's a super high character guy. I'd bet on him any day.

Were not a contender with Dame. I don't know why anyone thinks we would be.

I like Bridges, but its way to early to say hes capable of being the leading star on a title team. Lillard can't be the main guy.

He needs to go play with Embiid or Giannis.

Nets should just focus on developing talent for now and see where it goes.

[TheNetsFan]

The only move that turns into a contender right away is Dame.

Ben Simmons + Cam Thomas + 4 1st round picks for Dame works. It might seem like a meh price but I think he's only an option if Lillard tells the Blazers he wants to come here and they do him a solid. Dame also has injury risks and is owed 200+ million over the next 4 years.

Right now, all of our good lineups are elite on defense. So elite that we're beating teams with some pretty terrible offense. If we can replace Dinwiddie with Lillard, those guys are about the same defensively and Lillard is a MASSIVE upgrade on offense. And it pushes Dinwiddie to the bench where he's at his best on a really good team.

Dame might've been the best guard in the league this year and he's a super high character guy. I'd bet on him any day.

Were not a contender with Dame. I don't know why anyone thinks we would be.

I like Bridges, but its way to early to say hes capable of being the leading star on a title team. Lillard can't be the main guy.

He needs to go play with Embiid or Giannis.

Nets should just focus on developing talent for now and see where it goes.

I agree with this. You need to pick the right time & player to go all in on. You go all in when it will put you soundly in that Boston/Milwaukee tier. You don't go all in to cement you into the conversation for a 4ish seed. I'm also of the mentality that we need a break from oft-injured part timers.

[3pt_chucker]

The thing is, the Nets are in a really good spot to trade for Dame, because of the contending teams, not many of them need a PG. They would basically be bidding against themselves.

East:
Celtics - No, they already have the perfect set of guards for their system
Bucks - No. They have Jrue and I doubt they want to swap Khris for Dame. Might not even work since Khris is a FA.
Philly - Maybe if Harden leaves but they'd have to give up Maxey, which they won't. They also have limited picks
Clev - No. They have Mitchell and Garland
Knix - No, they have Brunson
Hawks - No. Trae and Murray plus limited picks
Heat - Yes but they have limited assets. Would have to deplete team to add him

West:
Denver = No. They have Murray
Memphis = Ja and Bane
Kings = No. they have Fox
PHX = Sneakily yes but they have limited assets. Maybe trade Ayton but then they'd just create another hole in the roster
Clips = No assets
Warriors = Steph
Lakers = Yes but no assets. Bad cap situation
TWolves = Yes but limited assets after Gobert disaster
Pelicans = Yes
Mavs = Yes but no assets plus the whole Kyrie situation

So essentially, Miami, Phoenix, Lakers, New Orleans and Mavs are teams other than the Nets make sense on paper. Of those, only the Pelicans have assets to even formulate a trade that Portland would take.

Pels swung for CJ, who looks over the hill and I can see them swapping him for Dame but I really doubt he fits their timeline or Dame wants to go there. But if he does, that's the only other team that can compete with the Nets.

Nets don't have to press a Dame trade and if Dame makes a fuss (which it already seems like he's planning to do), the Nets could be in the driving seat in a trade.

[TheNetsFan]

One can't help but think if KD had remained patient, the Nets would have had the ability to properly reload in the offseason. There will be multiple #2 level players that will probably be available.

Sadly, I don't think he was ever truly committed to Brooklyn as a franchise and only to what star(s) he's next too. If the Suns flame out in the playoffs, I won't be shocked if they make another move like trading Ayton for something.

Anyway this is all in the past now. I'm not sure trading for Dame or Butler alone moves the needle enough to truly compete with Boston, Mil, Phil, Cleveland.

Even in a total pipedream, a Dame-Bridges-Butler trio would be a spicy team but would be a very small window (2 years max?) but could definitely compete at the top. Probably be too old and injury prone tho.

Agree. Which is why someone like Trae if he's available I think makes sense because you can build out a team with him for a while to get to that level. By that point the draft picks going to the Rockets would no longer be a factor either.

I'm not a Trae fan, but I'm coming around on that idea if he were to be available. He's young enough & on a similar time horizon as Mikal & CamJ. You would hope that he'll mature out of some of those past coach/locker room issues that have plagued him in the past. Also, despite being undersized, he's been pretty durable.

[MGrand15]

The only move that turns into a contender right away is Dame.

Ben Simmons + Cam Thomas + 4 1st round picks for Dame works. It might seem like a meh price but I think he's only an option if Lillard tells the Blazers he wants to come here and they do him a solid. Dame also has injury risks and is owed 200+ million over the next 4 years.

Right now, all of our good lineups are elite on defense. So elite that we're beating teams with some pretty terrible offense. If we can replace Dinwiddie with Lillard, those guys are about the same defensively and Lillard is a MASSIVE upgrade on offense. And it pushes Dinwiddie to the bench where he's at his best on a really good team.

Dame might've been the best guard in the league this year and he's a super high character guy. I'd bet on him any day.

Pairing Lillard with Bridges and Claxton is a gamble I'd take, but the idea of paying 4 1sts makes my head hurt

Co signed as well, Lillard is the type of high character guy you want to clean up the stench of Kyrie and KD.

Eh I was just throwing that out there. We'd be getting a legit star for 2 guys that don't play for us. I think 4 sounds about right.

Us Net fans should definitely be scared of trading picks but we actually have a lot of picks now. We can afford to give some up. I'm also cool being patient. I wouldn't be mad at waiting for Luka to demand out.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Dame is not the guy anyway. Hes too old and makes way too much money.

If we did trade for a star I would prefer Luka or Tatum. Sometimes its best to hold your powder dry.

Till then we need to keep developing Bridges/Clax/Cam. And rehabilitate Simmons.