The Official Lin Net Thread

[playteamball]

Why are so many so impatient to see Lin play and seemingly distraught/disturbed? These injuries are no joke. It's not like the Nets or Lin have a crystal ball and know how fast such a fickle injury will heal or respond on a day-to-day basis to treatment/practice. The LAST thing we want to do is to put pressure on him to rush back or for the Nets to disclose a timetable and feel compelled to meet it.

Why do you even care if people are impatient? People are also impatitient with LeVert not playing. Does that also disturb you? It's inherently human for fans to be impatient, distraught or disturbed when their team loses 10 out their last 11 games. Deal with it.

Actually I was referring more to the Lin fans (of which I am one) than Nets fans. I could actually understand Nets fans being disturbed, but I'm not seeing it here.

[Pistolpete1947]

I'm actually pretty okay right now, the losing is disappointing especially when we have games that are close, but it doesn't bother me really. I guess either I'm numb, or i just expect to have rough patches like this with this team. I think we'll have better stretches than this during the year especially with Lin back.

I can understand not having a lot of optimism after all last year was rough. I used to be a big Knick's fan but they kept losing by double-digits and it got to the point where I couldn't watch them anymore just too depressing. So I can definitely see where you're at because I was there. Then Linsanity happened and the Knicks ,who had lost 11 of their last 13 games (with Carmelo and Amare), won 7 straight without them putting them back in the playoff race. Not saying it'll happen again as the coach and the team makeup are very different - but Lin is better now - and so I hope.

[Pistolpete1947]

Why are so many so impatient to see Lin play and seemingly distraught/disturbed? These injuries are no joke. It's not like the Nets or Lin have a crystal ball and know how fast such a fickle injury will heal or respond on a day-to-day basis to treatment/practice. The LAST thing we want to do is to put pressure on him to rush back or for the Nets to disclose a timetable and feel compelled to meet it.

Why do you even care if people are impatient? People are also impatitient with LeVert not playing. Does that also disturb you? It's inherently human for fans to be impatient, distraught or disturbed when their team loses 10 out their last 11 games. Deal with it.

Actually I was referring more to the Lin fans (of which I am one) than Nets fans. I could actually understand Nets fans being disturbed, but I'm not seeing it here.

You're a Lin fan and you can't understand them being impatient? I've seen plenty of posts wishing for Lin's return by all fans.

If you're rooting for the Net's to win you're a Net's fan. Period.

[playteamball]

Why do you even care if people are impatient? People are also impatitient with LeVert not playing. Does that also disturb you? It's inherently human for fans to be impatient, distraught or disturbed when their team loses 10 out their last 11 games. Deal with it.

Actually I was referring more to the Lin fans (of which I am one) than Nets fans. I could actually understand Nets fans being disturbed, but I'm not seeing it here.

You're a Lin fan and you can't understand them being impatient? I've seen plenty of posts wishing for Lin's return by all fans.

If you're rooting for the Net's to win you're a Net's fan. Period.

Of course I want Lin to heal quickly and return soon. I think we're not connecting on a pretty basic level, so I won't comment further here.

[Pistolpete1947]

Actually I was referring more to the Lin fans (of which I am one) than Nets fans. I could actually understand Nets fans being disturbed, but I'm not seeing it here.

You're a Lin fan and you can't understand them being impatient? I've seen plenty of posts wishing for Lin's return by all fans.

If you're rooting for the Net's to win you're a Net's fan. Period.

Of course I want Lin to heal quickly and return soon. I think we're not connecting on a pretty basic level, so I won't comment further here.

Yeah sure don't. The level I'm at is who gives you or anyone on this forum the right to criticize fans who are impatient, frustrated or disturbed by the team's dismal play since Lin was hurt?

[MrDollarBills]

I'm actually pretty okay right now, the losing is disappointing especially when we have games that are close, but it doesn't bother me really. I guess either I'm numb, or i just expect to have rough patches like this with this team. I think we'll have better stretches than this during the year especially with Lin back.

I can understand not having a lot of optimism after all last year was rough. I used to be a big Knick's fan but they kept losing by double-digits and it got to the point where I couldn't watch them anymore just too depressing. So I can definitely see where you're at because I was there. Then Linsanity happened and the Knicks ,who had lost 11 of their last 13 games (with Carmelo and Amare), won 7 straight without them putting them back in the playoff race. Not saying it'll happen again as the coach and the team makeup are very different - but Lin is better now - and so I hope.

Well, the reason i don't get too down is because these guys fight to the best of their ability most nights, its just that outside of Lopez and Lin we don't have much talent. RHJ tries but he's still a long ways to go. Booker is a breath of fresh air. But outside of that we are very young or just not starter level talent wise to make up for nights when the 3pters aren't dropping. So I try to take it in stride.

I have fun watching them. Which is a big difference from how things where a few years ago even when we were winning games. The team wasn't fun to watch, hard to root for because of guys like Deron Williams. With these guys, I pull for every single player on the team no matter how talented they are because I see effort and guys that want to be here. At best, I'm hoping we get Lin back within the next two weeks, and from January to April we can at least earn a reputation of a team that, if we just had 2 or 3 more talented guys, could be very competitive so when the summer comes free agents may want to give us a seat at the table. But i doubt it.

[Roy Tarpley]

The bounce pass to Bojan at the 1:01 mark or the fullcourt pass to Hamilton at the 0:49 mark is why I'm impatient to see Lin play.

Watch on YouTube

[fafan]

I wouldn't call impatient, that's mostly frustration or confusion since there was nothing update since he got injury. If Nets said 6 weeks at beginning, then everyone will clear.

[ChokeFasncists]

It's inherently human for fans to be impatient, distraught or disturbed when their team loses 10 out their last 11 games. Deal with it.

I used to be a big Knick's fan but they kept losing by double-digits and it got to the point where I couldn't watch them anymore just too depressing. So I can definitely see where you're at because I was there. Then Linsanity happened and the Knicks ,who had lost 11 of their last 13 games (with Carmelo and Amare), won 7 straight without them putting them back in the playoff race. Not saying it'll happen again as the coach and the team makeup are very different - but Lin is better now - and so I hope.

A real Lin fan would be like: stay real positive and expect a 10 games winning streak after he comes back.

[Pistolpete1947]

It's inherently human for fans to be impatient, distraught or disturbed when their team loses 10 out their last 11 games. Deal with it.

I used to be a big Knick's fan but they kept losing by double-digits and it got to the point where I couldn't watch them anymore just too depressing. So I can definitely see where you're at because I was there. Then Linsanity happened and the Knicks ,who had lost 11 of their last 13 games (with Carmelo and Amare), won 7 straight without them putting them back in the playoff race. Not saying it'll happen again as the coach and the team makeup are very different - but Lin is better now - and so I hope.

A real Lin fan would be like: be real positive and expect a 10 games winning streak after he comes back.

If I said that I'd be called a delusional, non-Nets fan and be thrown out of this forum.

(But give him 3-5 games to get back in game shape and it's a definite possibility )

[bws94]

Those highlights were fun to watch. The guy is electric on the court.

[Pistolpete1947]

Those highlights were fun to watch. The guy is electric on the court.

He has the ability to make other players better. A rare quality.

[Prokorov]

I'm actually pretty okay right now, the losing is disappointing especially when we have games that are close, but it doesn't bother me really. I guess either I'm numb, or i just expect to have rough patches like this with this team. I think we'll have better stretches than this during the year especially with Lin back.

I can understand not having a lot of optimism after all last year was rough. I used to be a big Knick's fan but they kept losing by double-digits and it got to the point where I couldn't watch them anymore just too depressing. So I can definitely see where you're at because I was there. Then Linsanity happened and the Knicks ,who had lost 11 of their last 13 games (with Carmelo and Amare), won 7 straight without them putting them back in the playoff race. Not saying it'll happen again as the coach and the team makeup are very different - but Lin is better now - and so I hope.

Its a combination of 3 things:

1) the franchise cleaned house and its year 1 of a long patient rebuild. Nets fans are onboard with this because of how bad the prior rebuilt went and see things being done the right way now. the GM/Coach players said its about development right now, so losses arent really all that discouraging... especially with how well young guys have looked so far and how hard the team has played. I'm always excited to win, but losses dont bother me unless the team shows low effort, which i have yet to see.

2) the talent isnt there yet and thus expectations are low (for net fans at least, maybe not lin fans). Losses dont sting as much when you expect/predict a 20-30 win season. expectations get even lower when the little talent you have is out with injuries(Lin, RHJ)

3) there is massive improvement from last year. guys care. they want to be here. guys are developing and playing modern ball. lopez move to a three point shooter so seamlessly is remarkable for instance. so from last year to this year alot of good to focus on beyond our record.... i think this is the biggest one, since lin fans were mostly not net fans last year and dont see this improvement. they mostly looked at stats and maybe expected lopez to be a better player/defender and though him and lin would make us a 40 win team

[Prokorov]

I'm actually pretty okay right now, the losing is disappointing especially when we have games that are close, but it doesn't bother me really. I guess either I'm numb, or i just expect to have rough patches like this with this team. I think we'll have better stretches than this during the year especially with Lin back.

I can understand not having a lot of optimism after all last year was rough. I used to be a big Knick's fan but they kept losing by double-digits and it got to the point where I couldn't watch them anymore just too depressing. So I can definitely see where you're at because I was there. Then Linsanity happened and the Knicks ,who had lost 11 of their last 13 games (with Carmelo and Amare), won 7 straight without them putting them back in the playoff race. Not saying it'll happen again as the coach and the team makeup are very different - but Lin is better now - and so I hope.

Well, the reason i don't get too down is because these guys fight to the best of their ability most nights, its just that outside of Lopez and Lin we don't have much talent. RHJ tries but he's still a long ways to go. Booker is a breath of fresh air. But outside of that we are very young or just not starter level talent wise to make up for nights when the 3pters aren't dropping. So I try to take it in stride.

I have fun watching them. Which is a big difference from how things where a few years ago even when we were winning games. The team wasn't fun to watch, hard to root for because of guys like Deron Williams. With these guys, I pull for every single player on the team no matter how talented they are because I see effort and guys that want to be here. At best, I'm hoping we get Lin back within the next two weeks, and from January to April we can at least earn a reputation of a team that, if we just had 2 or 3 more talented guys, could be very competitive so when the summer comes free agents may want to give us a seat at the table. But i doubt it.

how many times during that 49 win season did I say i would take a bad team that plays hard over that one? had to be every 3rd game. that was the hardest team to watch, talented enough to win with no effort, and cotinually played with no effort. 49 wins but coudlnt beat any team over .500 and predictably got embarassed by a decimated bulls team on our own floor.

ill take this version of the nets even at 25ish wins of that 49 win team any day. nothing worse then watching deron and brook loaf around with 0 passion

[ChokeFasncists]

It's inherently human for fans to be impatient, distraught or disturbed when their team loses 10 out their last 11 games. Deal with it.

I used to be a big Knick's fan but they kept losing by double-digits and it got to the point where I couldn't watch them anymore just too depressing. So I can definitely see where you're at because I was there. Then Linsanity happened and the Knicks ,who had lost 11 of their last 13 games (with Carmelo and Amare), won 7 straight without them putting them back in the playoff race. Not saying it'll happen again as the coach and the team makeup are very different - but Lin is better now - and so I hope.

A real Lin fan would be like: be real positive and expect a 10 games winning streak after he comes back.

If I said that I'd be called a delusional, non-Nets fan and be thrown out of this forum.

(But give him 3-5 games to get back in game shape and it's a definite possibility )

Then why be so negative?

[ChokeFasncists]

2) the talent isnt there yet and thus expectations are low (for net fans at least, maybe not lin fans). Losses dont sting as much when you expect/predict a 20-30 win season. expectations get even lower when the little talent you have is out with injuries(Lin, RHJ)

Every game with Lin on the court, I expect a W. Every game with Lin out, I expect an L.

[therealbig3]

I kind of want to see a larger sample size of Lin with the Nets before I make a definite judgment about his impact, but it seems clear to me that he's A. a solid starting PG, B. he has a big impact for us, probably bolstered by the fact that we're so thin in the back court in terms of depth, so a starting-caliber PG seems like a god send, and C. he plays with infectious energy and effort and it makes everyone else better, beyond just his high IQ play.

We only have 5 games to go off of, but we were playing relatively well with him on the court.

Any word on when he might be coming back? Is it normal for players to be out this long with hamstring injuries?

[hood30]

I kind of want to see a larger sample size of Lin with the Nets before I make a definite judgment about his impact, but it seems clear to me that he's A. a solid starting PG, B. he has a big impact for us, probably bolstered by the fact that we're so thin in the back court in terms of depth, so a starting-caliber PG seems like a god send, and C. he plays with infectious energy and effort and it makes everyone else better, beyond just his high IQ play.

We only have 5 games to go off of, but we were playing relatively well with him on the court.

Any word on when he might be coming back? Is it normal for players to be out this long with hamstring injuries?

Lin will definitely have a huge impact barring he can get back to his preseason form quick enough..Whitehead have shown some promise here and there, but Lin is still a huge upgrade to him at the moment and this alone will boost Nets competitiveness greatly.

As for whether it is normal for a player to be out that long with an hamstring??...It depends on the grade and since Marks have refused to diverge this info, there's no way for us to know whether it's normal or abnormal.....If Lin suffered a grade 1 or 2, he probably should be back by now...Gade 3 can keep you out for more than a month.

[therealbig3]

They've already surpassed my expectations as far as I'm concerned, that's why I'm not disappointed. They've been competitive (for the most part) against teams they really shouldn't be competitive against, and they've won games against teams they really shouldn't have won against. And they simply don't have a lot of talent. We're mainly comprised of bench players and D-leaguers, with only 2 legitimate starting caliber players, one of whom has been out for most of the season with an injury (Lin).

This team is a lot easier to root for than the playoff teams we had with Deron Williams, because he was a disappointment in pretty much every way, from his actual play on the court to the effort he gave most nights to his (lack of) leadership. This team is full of guys that actually care and play hard no matter what, so even though we're not very talented and we lose games as a result, it's just a lot more fun to watch these guys play.

And I get it if LeBron's teams or the Spurs or the Warriors want to coast during the RS, but the difference is, their coasting still leads to 55+ win seasons, and they can easily turn it up a level in the playoffs. Our team wasn't nearly talented enough to coast and we didn't even turn it up in the playoffs. We got punked by a decimated Bulls squad with a game 7 in our own building. We had no right to not give much effort during the RS, because what exactly gave us the right to do so? Actual good teams with established track records can do that, not us. And to not even show up in the freaking playoffs was disgusting.

I'm still so pissed about that 2013 season. Our coaching sucked too (ISO 90% of the time, Gerald Wallace clearly being a liability at SF but clearly being somewhat useful at PF consistently played SF, lineups with spacing that clearly played well barely played, etc), but we still had an overwhelming talent advantage compared to the Bulls in that 1st round, and we had HCA. And we lost so many games throughout that year that we should have won if we simply cared enough (how many times did we blow big leads that year? I feel like every loss that wasn't a blowout was basically us building up a lead and then losing it because we started dogging it in the 2nd half). Even with 49 wins and by far the best RS we had in years, it wasn't a fun season. It just felt like a giant disappointment with all the blown leads and especially with how badly we played against teams .500 or better. And when we had a chance to redeem ourselves in the playoffs, or at least show that we weren't punks and wouldn't roll over to a decimated team that we had HCA against, we did exactly that. It just confirmed everything we saw throughout the season: we secretly sucked and had a team full of dogs, led by the biggest dog of them all, and only had a winning season because there were enough sucky teams out there for us to win against based on sheer talent, but when push came to shove, we were going to fold big time.

Sorry, had to rant. Bad memories came back.

[bws94]

I kind of want to see a larger sample size of Lin with the Nets before I make a definite judgment about his impact, but it seems clear to me that he's A. a solid starting PG, B. he has a big impact for us, probably bolstered by the fact that we're so thin in the back court in terms of depth, so a starting-caliber PG seems like a god send, and C. he plays with infectious energy and effort and it makes everyone else better, beyond just his high IQ play.

We only have 5 games to go off of, but we were playing relatively well with him on the court.

Any word on when he might be coming back? Is it normal for players to be out this long with hamstring injuries?

Lin will definitely have a huge impact barring he can get back to his preseason form quick enough..Whitehead have shown some promise here and there, but Lin is still a huge upgrade to him at the moment and this alone will boost Nets competitiveness greatly.

As for whether it is normal for a player to be out that long with an hamstring??...It depends on the grade and since Marks have refused to diverge this info, there's no way for us to know whether it's normal or abnormal.....If Lin suffered a grade 1 or 2, he probably should be back by now...Gade 3 can keep you out for more than a month.

Grade 2 can keep you out 4-6 weeks from what I've read. Lin's been out 5 weeks. Grade 3 can have a player out quite a long time.