Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread

Post #241 » by **NyCeEvO** » Fri May 17, 2019 9:20 pm

While I'd be ecstatic if we signed a big free agent, I'd be content with retaining our core and improving internally.

Being a winning team in the NBA is hard. Being a contending team is even harder.

In order to win a championship, you need to have:
1) the right players,
2) the right coach,
3) right management, and
4) some varying degrees of luck.

Since health and chemistry are always factors in overall success, even having the most stacked team at the beginning of the season doesn't guarantee a title.

Obviously, I want Marks to improve the team and get us a close to being a championship-caliber team as possible, but if he's unable to do so, I won't view our team as a failure. Success in the NBA isn't a zero-sum game for me. It's been such a long time since we've had a good team that I liked, I forgot how fun it can be just to have a good, playoff team.

I'm definitely hoping for the best, but I'm content with where we're at.

MrDollarBills · Post #242 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat May 18, 2019 3:46 am

NyCeEvO wrote:While I'd be ecstatic if we signed a big free agent, I'd be content with retaining our core and improving internally.

Being a winning team in the NBA is hard. Being a contending team is even harder.

In order to win a championship, you need to have:
1) the right players,
2) the right coach,
3) right management, and
4) some varying degrees of luck.

Since health and chemistry are always factors in overall success, even having the most stacked team at the beginning of the season doesn't guarantee a title.

Obviously, I want Marks to improve the team and get us a close to being a championship-caliber team as possible, but if he's unable to do so, I won't view our team as a failure. Success in the NBA isn't a zero-sum game for me. It's been such a long time since we've had a good team that I liked, I forgot how fun it can be just to have a good, playoff team.

I'm definitely hoping for the best, but I'm content with where we're at.

I agree with all of this.

I think we definitely need to add an older outsider free agent to shake things up a bit but also someone who pushes who we have here already to be better.

Roddy B for 3 · 7/1/2019 (I broke a mirror on 7-1-2012)

Would Brooklyn trade #17 + #27 + #31 for #8

LOUiS-D · Post #244 » by **LOUiS-D** » Sat May 18, 2019 9:31 am

Roddy B for 3 wrote:Would Brooklyn trade #17 + #27 + #31 for #8

There's only one consideration that'd dissuade Brooklyn from taking that deal: cap space. They might need to attach a pick to move Crabbe.

Otherwise it's around 1.2M cheaper overall to have #8 (4M) over #17 (2.3M) + #27 (1.6M) + #31 (~1.2M).

DeRoma · Post #245 » by **DeRoma** » Sat May 18, 2019 10:55 am

LOUiS-D wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:Would Brooklyn trade #17 + #27 + #31 for #8

There's only one consideration that'd dissuade Brooklyn from taking that deal: cap space. They might need to attach a pick to move Crabbe.

Otherwise it's around 1.2M cheaper overall to have #8 (4M) over #17 (2.3M) + #27 (1.6M) + #31 (~1.2M).

It's the same. Second round pick doesn't count on the cap space until he is signed. With that said, it still all depends on the Crabbe situation or who is still available on the Draft pool at the times 8 comes about.

If DeAndre Hunter is still on board I can definitely see us considering this. Nassir Little is another who to consider.

TheNetsFan · Post #246 » by **TheNetsFan** » Sat May 18, 2019 11:23 am

Roddy B for 3 wrote:Would Brooklyn trade #17 + #27 + #31 for #8

For a player. I think Hunter and Reddish would be targets of a trade up.

Prokorov · Post #247 » by **Prokorov** » Sat May 18, 2019 12:33 pm

LOUiS-D wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:Would Brooklyn trade #17 + #27 + #31 for #8

There's only one consideration that'd dissuade Brooklyn from taking that deal: cap space. They might need to attach a pick to move Crabbe.

Otherwise it's around 1.2M cheaper overall to have #8 (4M) over #17 (2.3M) + #27 (1.6M) + #31 (~1.2M).

We actually wouldnt need the pick to move crabbe. we would save 1.2 million as you pointed out and then could buy crabbe out for liek 15 million and save another 3.8 million. thats enough for any FA on the full max including durant.

Nets would certainly make this move.

GTR11 · Post #248 » by **GTR11** » Sat May 18, 2019 1:59 pm

Am I the only one who thinks we should give max to Butler? I mean we weaken our division component and get expiring contract one's he finished.

GTR11 · Post #249 » by **GTR11** » Sat May 18, 2019 2:03 pm

As for crabbe, guys contract is greater asset come trade deadline. Sorry don't believe top 3 FA coming over here. Not that I'm all exited about it.

MrDollarBills · Post #250 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat May 18, 2019 3:47 pm

GTR11 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks we should give max to Butler? I mean we weaken our division component and get expiring contract one's he finished.

I am not averse to signing Butler but his age is a concern.

I would rather get Tobias Harris.

GTR11 · Post #251 » by **GTR11** » Sat May 18, 2019 4:08 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
GTR11 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks we should give max to Butler? I mean we weaken our division component and get expiring contract one's he finished.

I am not averse to signing Butler but his age is a concern.

I would rather get Tobias Harris.

Yeah I should've elaborated more. Harris is clearly not an Alfa dog come money time. Is Jimmy really worth a risk with this young core? Can he take us to another level and give that experience.

Rockice_24 · Post #252 » by **Rockice_24** » Fri May 24, 2019 1:34 pm

Assuming we strike out on the big fish and land Tobias only where does that leave us now and in the future? Is that a contender assuming more growth from D-Lo, Levert, and Allen?

I really like that team to be honest. Assuming MIL stays together, Kawhi stays in TOR, and NYK get KD and Kyrie I think we could hang with them.

TOR is clearly tough but with key guys like Lowery, Gasol, Ibaka trending down in their career they could need some retooling.
NYK may need another 1-2 years to get the rest of the roster together and KD would be aging and Kyrie is a bit fragile.
MIL could being losing their depth with maxing Giannis, Middleton, and the big contract of Bledsoe.

Obviously these teams will still be really good and probably have the edge over us because of the lack of a superstar but I think our depth and balance will be tough to deal with.

It all depends on how we internally develop and if Marks can hit in this draft. I mean our bench could be one of the best in the league with Din, Musa, maybe a guy like Little or Reddish if we can move up, Kurucs and Davis. Between the great bench and great balance with shooters (Harris boys) and guys who can attack (D-Lo, Levert) with hopefully a Tyson Chandler type anchor (Allen) we have a team worth rooting for and one that is deep and talented.

We just need to keep stockpiling assets because with that core if you can be attractive enough that the next superstar that wants out says send me to BK we are ready to bring them in and be an instant contender.

I makes sense to bring in Harris now and add multiple players this draft and be ready when the time comes.

SpeedyG · Post #253 » by **SpeedyG** » Fri May 24, 2019 4:22 pm

We're likely not a championship contender with this core of group (unless we land a Durant in which case we have a chance) or we see unexpected development from the young guys.

The plan with a Tobias type signing is to continue to build our culture AND our fan base.

Once the current powerhouses are done, ours should be in the prime. At that point, hopefully we can position ourselves to be the next powerhouse team.

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DeRoma · Post #254 » by **DeRoma** » Fri May 24, 2019 4:51 pm

SpeedyG wrote:We're likely not a championship contender with this core of group (unless we land a Durant in which case we have a chance) or we see unexpected development from the young guys.

The plan with a Tobias type signing is to continue to build our culture AND our fan base.

Once the current powerhouses are done, ours should be in the prime. At that point, hopefully we can position ourselves to be the next powerhouse team.

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This idea that a powerhouse team will ever be done is never gonna happen. It's going to keep on happening and happening. Making a deal with Tobias Harris is putting us in the same narrative as the raptors of last year. Which is also not the end of the world since we can do what they did and turn our tier 3 players to tier 1

MrDollarBills · Post #255 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri May 24, 2019 6:26 pm

Read on Twitter

Take it for what you will.

DeRoma · Post #256 » by **DeRoma** » Sat May 25, 2019 7:35 pm

Read on Twitter

Hello Brooklyn · Post #257 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sat May 25, 2019 7:41 pm

Kyrie and D Lo is interesting, but not sure they could play together. I think it would ruin D-Lo's game.

If we bring Kyrie there is no point in bringing back D Lo unless we are using him as a trade piece for AD.

IceManBK1 · Post #258 » by **IceManBK1** » Sat May 25, 2019 9:17 pm

Kyrie/Dlo backcourt would move Dlo to SG. It could work if they can figure out how to share the ball. Dlo would have to play off the ball more; and attack from the 2 sides of the perimeter. And do more work in the post. He could still be freed via off ball staggered screens or pick n roll with a big if he's bringing the ball up the court. Kyrie would find him if he cuts to the rim more often. And kyrie can spot up/attack from the sides of the court when he's off the ball. We should also sign Randle with the salary we freed up from trading crabbe. Having 2 bigs that can side good screens will free up dlo and kyrie whether they have the ball or not. And we gonna need couple beast to reb the ball if we're gonna focus the offense on those 2. I'd see if we can land a top 5 pick by trading either Levert or DW with our 1st rounder. It'd be nice if we can draft someone like DeAndre Hunter to be the 3D guy.

Kyrie/Dinwiddie/Dlo
Dlo/Kyrie/Dinwiddie
Deandre Hunter/Joe Harris/Musa(KZ Okpala#27)
Randle/Kurucs/PJ Washington(#27 pick)
Allen/(resign Ed Davis)

IceManBK1 · Post #259 » by **IceManBK1** » Sat May 25, 2019 10:28 pm

Would rather Nets focus on signing PF and SF..i think that's our weakest spots..if we gonna keep Allen as our starting center.
SFs Durant/Butler/Harris/Kawhi
Pfs Randle/Mirotic/Jabari Parker

GTR11 · Post #260 » by **GTR11** » Sat May 25, 2019 11:06 pm

DeRoma wrote:

Read on Twitter

I have hard time seeing how D.LO and Kyrie pairing will work both guards ball dominant and not really reliable off ball shooters or good defenders. Now if this story is really true that Kyrie is BK bound than I have no doubt in my mind that KD will follow along. Now that team will definitely our best chance at championship for the next for years. Add the fact that our ownership is willing to spend big bucks we'll make a lot of noise out there and very likely will one and maybe more. KD, Kyrie, LVE and Din with some depth is a lot of firepower to overcome for any team.