Official Trade Deadline Thread: Ends 2.10 @ 3 PM EST

[Hello Brooklyn]

It's completely possible that there's no deal and we do this all over again in the Summer.

If it ends up being Simmons / Curry / Thybulle it will be interesting. Thybulle could swing a PHI / BK series.

Thybulle did completely lock up Harden when we played you guys.

Would love to see him do it for us.

[LOUiS-D]

And we will have to read here people excusing Harden. Leaving now just one year after. Unbelievable.

The hilarious part is, won’t even admit that Harden is looking real worse trying to join a rival contender. Especially, after the KD-Embiid beef.

You can be upset at Kyrie, Nash and everyone else WHILE also admitting that Harden is a quitter, he‘s faking an injury and reportedly, is dragging his feet to demand a trade request due to backlash?

This is the man you want to keep here? Completely delusional.

I'm still butthurt at Embiid elbowing then laughing at my forever golden boy Jarrett Allen. Philly is on my forever s**t list, one spot behind Giannis and the Bucks.

[Hello Brooklyn]

And we will have to read here people excusing Harden. Leaving now just one year after. Unbelievable.

The hilarious part is, won’t even admit that Harden is looking real worse trying to join a rival contender. Especially, after the KD-Embiid beef.

You can be upset at Kyrie, Nash and everyone else WHILE also admitting that Harden is a quitter, he‘s faking an injury and reportedly, is dragging his feet to demand a trade request due to backlash?

This is the man you want to keep here? Completely delusional.

You know he's faking an injury how? That's a bold accusation.

Patty Mills literally said he looks completely normal in practice.

Why else would he say that? Harden is faking injury to get traded.

[ThatBoyNick]

I can't believe Harden wants out after only 15 games with KD/Irving through covid and injury-struck seasons.

That's such a devastating trio I'm confident if they were healthy and focused they would win a ring, probably multiple. I have to imagine this is Harden realizing how much he valued being able to play his game, have his impact with the front office like he did in Houston, and believes he can replicate that in Philly with Morey and no other primary ball handlers.

[Prokorov]

And we will have to read here people excusing Harden. Leaving now just one year after. Unbelievable.

Things Change. He came here thinking it would be the Big3 stopping people.

KD Missed half of last season
KD will miss 1/3 of this season when its said and done

Kyrie will miss more then half the season, unclear on playoffs.

If im Harden i wait until the offseason. I can give it one more go with the big 3 and still go to philly and probably have a better philly team at the time.

Either way, things chance, and you adapt. Whether harden is pissed or just has regrets or just wants a chance its all good. he is handling it the right way,

[NetsJets]

The hilarious part is, won’t even admit that Harden is looking real worse trying to join a rival contender. Especially, after the KD-Embiid beef.

You can be upset at Kyrie, Nash and everyone else WHILE also admitting that Harden is a quitter, he‘s faking an injury and reportedly, is dragging his feet to demand a trade request due to backlash?

This is the man you want to keep here? Completely delusional.

You know he's faking an injury how? That's a bold accusation.

Patty Mills literally said he looks completely normal in practice.

Why else would he say that? Harden is faking injury to get traded.

Hamstring injuries are tricky though. He may look “fine” in practice but on game day it’s a whole different level of speed. It needs time to heal.

[Prokorov]

Woj has confirmed what most people on here realized days ago: Harden wants out. If you're going to sit here and tell me that Harden and Kyrie are tight like brothers or whatever, that time has passed.

There is no reason to keep Harden here if he wants out. The damage has been done.

So, explain to me why multiple reports stated, he does NOT like Brooklyn, doesn’t like the taxes, etc?

There’s a reason why I’m going directly at Harden harshly.

If his weirdo bromance with Darryl Morey is that strong after trading for him out of Houston a year ago, kick rocks.

It was reported a long time ago, he wanted out of Houston when Morey stepped down. Now, it makes sense.

That wasnt "multiple reports"

It was 1 report from Fisher and 12 outlets referencine the fischer report. Not only that, the Fisher report was click bait and he admist in the article its his own speculation on the taxes/brookyln/kyrie/nash stuff.

Fishers only quoted sour said exactky "Harden wont be shy, he will tell you like it is"

[Suwanee]

The hilarious part is, won’t even admit that Harden is looking real worse trying to join a rival contender. Especially, after the KD-Embiid beef.

You can be upset at Kyrie, Nash and everyone else WHILE also admitting that Harden is a quitter, he‘s faking an injury and reportedly, is dragging his feet to demand a trade request due to backlash?

This is the man you want to keep here? Completely delusional.

You know he's faking an injury how? That's a bold accusation.

Patty Mills literally said he looks completely normal in practice.

Why else would he say that? Harden is faking injury to get traded.

If I'm not mistaken, he was at the practice but didn't play. Looking and walking normal doesn't mean he won't have trouble running full speed in the game, if his hammy and hand are still bothering him.

[TravisScott55]

Harden quit on a 2nd team smh

[Hello Brooklyn]

I've thought about it more.

I'm just not doing it if I'm Marks.

As long as we get Harden back by the playoffs. And the mandate may be repealed. You have to take that chance.

Trading for Simmons with part time Kyrie ruins any chance we have to win this year.

I still fully believe we get Simmons if we wait for the off season. Philly has no other way of realistically getting cap space.

Worst case scenario is Philly finds a way to magically create the cap space. And then were left with what?

KD/Kyrie/Harris. Can resign Claxton. Bring in some new players. Its not the end of the world.

I would probably take us in a series over Philly with KD/Kyrie over Embiid/Harden anyway.

But Ben Simmons is not a deal breaker for me. And I'm not totally sold hes the right fit.

This is the best Nets team we will ever get. Go down swinging.

If the Nets win a title Harden will not leave. Mark my words.

[Prokorov]

Best bet is to gamble on things working out once the mandates and players get healthy.

I'm not willing to gamble with a disengaged Harden or waiting for mandates to be dropped when we are dangerously close to falling out of the playoff picture

In what way are we "dangerously close" to falling out of the playoff picture?

We are 5 games up on the Wizards, who just lost beal.

[Prokorov]

Every single Philly reporter has been adamant that Maxey is completely off the table.

Guessing the impasse right now is Thybulle. Trading Simmons & Thybulle kills Philly's defense, and defeats the purpose of trading for Harden in the first place (winning an actual championship).

Not sure it makes sense this year to trade Simmons + Curry + Thybulle for Harden if that's what it takes.

Just one perspective.

So does Philly not expect to have to give up assets for Harden? Makes no sense. Pick your poison.

Ben Simmons is an asset? Seth Curry is an asset?

How much of an asset is James Harden if he can walk this summer?

Both teams will obviously look to maximize their return, wouldn't expect anything less. If it gets done, my guess is it doesn't include Thybulle or Maxey though.

Where is he going to walk to?

[Fallout_3]

And we will have to read here people excusing Harden. Leaving now just one year after. Unbelievable.

Things Change. He came here thinking it would be the Big3 stopping people.

KD Missed half of last season
KD will miss 1/3 of this season when its said and done

Kyrie will miss more then half the season, unclear on playoffs.

If im Harden i wait until the offseason. I can give it one more go with the big 3 and still go to philly and probably have a better philly team at the time.

Either way, things chance, and you adapt. Whether harden is pissed or just has regrets or just wants a chance its all good. he is handling it the right way,

If the is forcing to leave now he's a coward. Period. And ungrateful.

But of course he has the right to.

[GTR11]

Good looking out flat earth creature. I would rather get rid of him, definition of cancer right here.

Kyrie at 29 and only needing to be full time is more reliable than out shape and getting older Harden.

Kyrie is better player off ball and used as iso player. Giving him ball and make plays for others is not ideal option. He's PG by size only, truly he's undersized 2 guard.

Getting Ben don't really hurt us. If we get a true coach that can adjust system around Ben than we can be winners in a long run here.

Asking KD to be a playmaker dumb, not only he's mediocre at it, he turnover machine if game planned. Guy is assassin rhythm scorer, when hot can't be stopped period.

Bottom line here is that we going to need a coach that can/will figure egos and knows what he's doing as a coach. With Harden we won't be facing it. That's what hurts most.

I'm a Nets fan that seen J.Kidd saying he's playing on the wrong side of Hudson river ( he's the reason I'm a still Nets fan and didn't follow my man K.Mart ) and still here. This is nothing, I'm ready to go to war with Kyrie, Ben, KD and Joe vs any team out there. We still top 3-5 team that can win it all. Bring it!!!

[Prokorov]

If Marks make this deal and it includes Mills im running to Brooklyn headquarters with pitchforks and torches.

I'm fine with a trade... it makes no sense to me not to wait until the offseason but i get it and im sure there are internal factors where if we trade him now its because it is in our best interest.


If we do trade him now I need:
Simmons
Curry or Maxey
Thybule or Korkmaz + 1st
1st

with no mills or harris going to philly.

Anything short of that is somewhere between disappointment and disaster. if we do get that package though, id be pleased with it. I think it increases our long term chances dramatically. im not as down on harden as most but when i project out his next 3 years it certainly isnt prettier then Simmons/Curry/Thybule + picks...

[NetsWorld]

SAS is now saying Durant put a halt on everything. Apparently the Nets are expecting the city mandate to be lifted next month. That makes me happy because Nets have intel and definitely talk to the city, otherwise this stuff wouldn’t be stated. KD/Harden/Kyrie are just freshening up for when it matters most while other teams run out of fuel. You can see it from a mile away.

Not saying this isnt true but SAS has been full of it, especially with the Nets for a while and KD specifically called out. So id take it with a grain of salt

Not the mandate stuff...Kyrie, on Sunday, seemed to be confident it would be lifted by All Star break so the Nets know something and it was not said out of speculation. Read between the lines; also, I want Harden gone at this point and the fact that it leaked he is mentally fragile makes him look worse and a player who will probably never win a ring. I really hope Marks gets us Maxey/Simmons packaged together which would be superior to a mentally weak and quitting player.

[Prokorov]

Good looking out flat earth creature. I would rather get rid of him, definition of cancer right here.

Kyrie at 29 and only needing to be full time is more reliable than out shape and getting older Harden.

Kyrie is better player off ball and used as iso player. Giving him ball and make plays for others is not ideal option. He's PG by size only, truly he's undersized 2 guard.

Getting Ben don't really hurt us. If we get a true coach that can adjust system around Ben than we can be winners in a long run here.

Asking KD to be a playmaker dumb, not only he's mediocre at it, he turnover machine if game planned. Guy is assassin rhythm scorer, when hot can't be stopped period.

Bottom line here is that we going to need a coach that can/will figure egos and knows what he's doing as a coach. With Harden we won't be facing it. That's what hurts most.

I'm a Nets fan that seen J.Kidd saying he's playing on the wrong side of Hudson river ( he's the reason I'm a still Nets fan and didn't follow my man K.Mart ) and still here. This is nothing, I'm ready to go to war with Kyrie, Ben, KD and Joe vs any team out there. We still top 3-5 team that can win it all. Bring it!!!

I dont repond to you because we are always so far apart and it derails threads and I end up treating you like a jerk but on here... I could not possible agree more. If we make this trade we need a real coach BADLY:

1) Simmons needs support and Nash isnt that guy. he is more likely to throw someone under the bus. He also needs someone to help grow his game. and that doesnt mean he has to generate a jumper, it means he has to understand how to play when teams cheat off him, similar to Giannis who attacks the space you give him to get a full head of steam. A great coach would have simmons seamlessly shifting between PG/Small and F/C/Big.

2) Positions and roles will be important... we can no longer 'roll out a ball' and still have a good offense. We need Kyrie at SG, tis where he is best. Ben at PG needs to be established early. Kyrie is a good PG but a great SG. you can have Kyrie bringing it up while Simmons defender completely ignores him on the wing. Also Simmons would likely be best playing all 5 positions for us at some point. and managing that takes gameplanning vs specific opponents, not a strength of this coaching staff

[TheNetsFan]

If the Sixers want Mills too, they're giving up Maxey, Thybulle, Curry, and a bunch of picks. The Nets are not gifting them the two most reliable players in the trade.

I'm with Geltzeiler who said the Nets need 2 of Maxey, Curry, Thybulle plus at least 2 picks. Sixers can pick which player they want to keep.

I lay out the following options & let Morey decide what he wants to do:
Harden & Millsap for Simmons+Thybulle+ one 1st +
Option A) Maxey
Option B) Curry + one more 1st (get back Brown & Carter)
Option C) 2 more 1sts

The same fanbase that state the Nets should take anything they can get for Harden have had Ben sitting out all season.

As far as the threat of signing Harden outright goes, the Sixers would need to get to about $76mil in team salary (after cap holds for roster spots & picks) to even get in the Harden ballpark (Harden would still be leaving some money on the table). That means they have to pay whatever it takes to get no salary back for Tobias & Simmons (the thought that teams will give Philly cap space & picks for Simmons is ludicrous) & renounce Green. Harris, while overpaid, is currently a better player than Maxey, Curry or Thybulle. One would think the Sixers are better off with Harris as the third best player than Maxey (who you could argue would be hampered by the presence of Harden) or Curry. I'm not sure why fans are quicker to attach picks to be rid Harris & in turn Green than one or two of Maxey, Curry & Thybulle.

[GYK]

Frustrating.
I’m not hearing about Marks even trying to improve the roster.
It’s not like star swapping helps us.
Ben can’t be on the court with traditional bigs and certainly not with non shooting perimeter players.
He has to have legitimate spacing. A problem we’ve had all season.

We could just improve the roster but this guy just loves his role players. It was clear well before the deadline and the losing but no. Another high profile dysfunctional NY sports team. Easiest build ever. Just refuses and no blames him, which is probably why he refuses. Crowned best GM in the league and the contending chance to prove it..egg.

[Prokorov]

If the Sixers want Mills too, they're giving up Maxey, Thybulle, Curry, and a bunch of picks. The Nets are not gifting them the two most reliable players in the trade.

I'm with Geltzeiler who said the Nets need 2 of Maxey, Curry, Thybulle plus at least 2 picks. Sixers can pick which player they want to keep.

I lay out the following options & let Morey decide what he wants to do:
Harden & Millsap for Simmons+Thybulle+ one 1st +
Option A) Maxey
Option B) Curry + one more 1st (get back Brown & Carter)
Option C) 2 more 1sts

The same fanbase that state the Nets should take anything they can get for Harden have had Ben sitting out all season.

As far as the threat of signing Harden outright goes, the Sixers would need to get to about $76mil in team salary (after cap holds for roster spots & picks) to even get in the Harden ballpark (Harden would still be leaving some money on the table). That means they have to pay whatever it takes to get no salary back for Tobias & Simmons (the thought that teams will give Philly cap space & picks for Simmons is ludicrous) & renounce Green. Harris, while overpaid, is currently a better player than Maxey, Curry or Thybulle. One would think the Sixers are better off with Harris as the third best player than Maxey (who you could argue would be hampered by the presence of Harden) or Curry. I'm not sure why fans are quicker to attach picks to be rid Harris & in turn Green than one or two of Maxey, Curry & Thybulle.

I'm similar:

Baseline: Simmons + 2024 1st. Non-negotiable

Choose 1: Mxey or Curry
Choose 1: Thybule or Korkmax + 2026 1st
Choose 1: Milton, Springer, or 2022 1st

Mills talk ends trade no matter who you add.