Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[MrDollarBills]

If Allen is gone then we should go after Aaron Baynes as his replacement. Also, We should try to keep our pick this year, this might be the highest pick we have in some years . We can draft one of the many 3 nd D wings out of this draft which is a need or we can even get a point guard to replace Din.

if we have any assets left over after harden we should trade them for norm powell

I'm pretty sure we're coughing up the entire war chest for Harden. Vet minimum ring chasers will have to fill the void on D

[Sharcm1]

This projected deal with the nets giving up everything and picks for harden reminds me of the Boston trade for KG and PP. this is a horrible idea, The only way I would want them to get harden is by giving up Irving. I don’t think this idea of giving up spencer, Caris, prince, Allen, and three first round picks for one player. I know he’s a great player. But he is 31 and a ball hog. We have two other ball hog superstar players already on the team. We need the role players around them.

Not to mention defense. Irving sucks at defense and Durant doesn’t really try. Yeah let’s just shoot over everyone and let them score too. This is a disaster waiting to happen,

Get a pf and start the season with this team.

[Paradise]

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[MrDollarBills]

This projected deal with the nets giving up everything and picks for harden reminds me of the Boston trade for KG and PP. this is a horrible idea, The only way I would want them to get harden is by giving up Irving. I don’t think this idea of giving up spencer, Caris, prince, Allen, and three first round picks for one player. I know he’s a great player. But he is 31 and a ball hog. We have two other ball hog superstar players already on the team. We need the role players around them.

Not to mention defense. Irving sucks at defense and Durant doesn’t really try. Yeah let’s just shoot over everyone and let them score too. This is a disaster waiting to happen,

Get a pf and start the season with this team.

Kevin Durant isn't a ball hog. Also, this is nothing even comparable to the Boston trade. James Harden is in his prime, KG and PP were not.

I don't want to lose those guys either but the more i think about it the more I say go for it. We only have a 3 year window to win a championship and an Irving/Harden/Durant 1-2-3 punch is an elite offense if Harden and Irving buy in to what Nash and MDA want to do offensively. My main concerns are the personalities involved here.

[Paradise]

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He has demanded a trade.

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[Hello Brooklyn]

Kyrie
Harden
Harris
KD
Jordan

Nobody is beating that lineup. We will by far be the best team in the NBA. You guys are insane if you don't want it to happen.

You can just heavily stagger Kyrie/Harden. And Kyrie will have to become more pass first like he was with LeBron.

Having 3 elite scorers will not be a bad thing. We will slaughter teams.

Offensively if guys buy in to Nash and MDA's system, we will be unstoppable.

Now on the other hand, we literally can't defend any of the other top teams with that line up. We will need to find defense via the MLE and vet mins.

With no bench, we will definitely be the top target for ring chasers.

I see us getting some good pieces through the MLE and vet mins.

[NyCeEvO]

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He has demanded a trade.

I'll wait until a WojBomb comes in to believe it. The wording in that tweet still comes off as speculative.

[NyCeEvO]

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Unrealistic or not, It’s absolutely good to be in this conversation as a franchise now. Doesn’t matter if Houston doesn’t move him or not, if Harden wants to be a Net. That’s absolutely a win for us going forward as a franchise before KD and Kyrie take the court. Lower level guys who will look at this chatter might come here on more cheaper deals than we think.

Everyone here knows about those heated posts on the Lillard pick for Gerald Wallace deal but does anyone remember those painful heated debates on how Billy King could’ve gotten us Harden from OKC?

Pepperidge Farm remem...I mean VC4P remembers.

[Prokorov]

If Allen is gone then we should go after Aaron Baynes as his replacement. Also, We should try to keep our pick this year, this might be the highest pick we have in some years . We can draft one of the many 3 nd D wings out of this draft which is a need or we can even get a point guard to replace Din.

if we have any assets left over after harden we should trade them for norm powell

I'm pretty sure we're coughing up the entire war chest for Harden. Vet minimum ring chasers will have to fill the void on D

I'm not so sure. in a "blow'it up" situation with the star (harden) choosing his detination the incoming team is typically jobbed into taking 75 cents on the dollar. i think most of it goes to the rockets, but i can see us retaining some pieces still.

dream scenario:

-Dinwiddie/Levert/Allen/2 picks for hardem
-1 pick plus claxton for powell plus anything else we can figure out to send them
-sign Baynes to the MLE

Kyrie | Harden | Harris | KD | Baynes

how the eff do you defend that lineup? 4 super elite shooters, 3 super elite iso players, 2 elite pick and roll players and an enormous stretch 5 who will kill you on the glass if you go small on him.

then you have Powell, Brown, Temple, vet chasing defenders when needed

personally i dont think we need as much defense a speople are making out. it is going to be near impossible to go bucket for bucket with irving/KD/Kyrie

thats three 30 ppg 50/40/90 tyoes

[akhan786]

Would rather have Ibaka than Harden lol. Harden may want to come, but I don’t think it’s a given that KD and Kyrie want him

These cats care about their legacy. And I think they want a crack at taking down Bron just the the 2 of them first. Circle back next offseason to Harden if he’s available.

Get Ibaka. Then trade Dinwiddie and Jarrett Allen for someone like Aaron Gordon or Jrue Holiday

[Prokorov]

This projected deal with the nets giving up everything and picks for harden reminds me of the Boston trade for KG and PP. this is a horrible idea, The only way I would want them to get harden is by giving up Irving. I don’t think this idea of giving up spencer, Caris, prince, Allen, and three first round picks for one player. I know he’s a great player. But he is 31 and a ball hog. We have two other ball hog superstar players already on the team. We need the role players around them.

Not to mention defense. Irving sucks at defense and Durant doesn’t really try. Yeah let’s just shoot over everyone and let them score too. This is a disaster waiting to happen,

Get a pf and start the season with this team.

This is absolutely NOTHING like that deal.

for one, we gave boston 3 picks and 2 pick swaps. we can do that with houston since houston has no picks to swap. so the most we can give is 3 firsts. so right off the bat thats 2 less picks.

second, Harden ins his prime >>>>>>> Pierce/KG at the end of their careers.

Harden is coming off 4 straight 30/8/6 seasons on 62 TS%.

third, we are a MUCH better team then the nets that dealt for KG/Pierce. back then Deron/Lopez were our "stars". now its Kyrie/KD. the chances that we become a bottom 3 team in the next 2 years with Kyrie/KD/Harden is significantly lower then it was with the nets

PLUS im sure marks puts top 3-5 protection on those picks

[Sharcm1]

What if it’s Irving going in the trade for harden. I would be down for that. Through in a pick or prince. Let’s do it

[Prokorov]

This projected deal with the nets giving up everything and picks for harden reminds me of the Boston trade for KG and PP. this is a horrible idea, The only way I would want them to get harden is by giving up Irving. I don’t think this idea of giving up spencer, Caris, prince, Allen, and three first round picks for one player. I know he’s a great player. But he is 31 and a ball hog. We have two other ball hog superstar players already on the team. We need the role players around them.

Not to mention defense. Irving sucks at defense and Durant doesn’t really try. Yeah let’s just shoot over everyone and let them score too. This is a disaster waiting to happen,

Get a pf and start the season with this team.

Kevin Durant isn't a ball hog. Also, this is nothing even comparable to the Boston trade. James Harden is in his prime, KG and PP were not.

I don't want to lose those guys either but the more i think about it the more I say go for it. We only have a 3 year window to win a championship and an Irving/Harden/Durant 1-2-3 punch is an elite offense if Harden and Irving buy in to what Nash and MDA want to do offensively. My main concerns are the personalities involved here.

the idea anyone is on the fence about this is ABSURD.

1) We would have arguably the best offensive trio OF ALL TIME. we would LITERALLU have a USA dream team on the floor (Kyrie/KD/Harden/Jordan all played on the 2012-2016 teams and Harris on the last one.

2) Almost every single big 3 has worked to some extent: Lebron/Wade/Bosh, Lebron/Kyrie/Love, Pierce/Garnett/Allen, Steph/Klay/KD. the only one in recent history that didnt work was Kobe/Nash/Dwight but that was a 39 year old nash coming off the worst year of his career and dwight coming off microfracture.... also say what you want about Kyrie or Harden but Dwight is a bigger knuclehead then all of them.

3) Harden-Kyrie-KD are ALREADY tight. they have played together on many circuits for team usa and pro-ams.

We would be getting an MVP in his prime coming off 35/8/6 62 TS season... and giving up... 3 role players (1 injury prone and 2 rentals) and some picks.

Stop overthinking it. this would be a heist

[akhan786]

This projected deal with the nets giving up everything and picks for harden reminds me of the Boston trade for KG and PP. this is a horrible idea, The only way I would want them to get harden is by giving up Irving. I don’t think this idea of giving up spencer, Caris, prince, Allen, and three first round picks for one player. I know he’s a great player. But he is 31 and a ball hog. We have two other ball hog superstar players already on the team. We need the role players around them.

Not to mention defense. Irving sucks at defense and Durant doesn’t really try. Yeah let’s just shoot over everyone and let them score too. This is a disaster waiting to happen,

Get a pf and start the season with this team.

Kevin Durant isn't a ball hog. Also, this is nothing even comparable to the Boston trade. James Harden is in his prime, KG and PP were not.

I don't want to lose those guys either but the more i think about it the more I say go for it. We only have a 3 year window to win a championship and an Irving/Harden/Durant 1-2-3 punch is an elite offense if Harden and Irving buy in to what Nash and MDA want to do offensively. My main concerns are the personalities involved here.

the idea anyone is on the fence about this is ABSURD.

1) We would have arguably the best offensive trio OF ALL TIME. we would LITERALLU have a USA dream team on the floor (Kyrie/KD/Harden/Jordan all played on the 2012-2016 teams and Harris on the last one.

2) Almost every single big 3 has worked to some extent: Lebron/Wade/Bosh, Lebron/Kyrie/Love, Pierce/Garnett/Allen, Steph/Klay/KD. the only one in recent history that didnt work was Kobe/Nash/Dwight but that was a 39 year old nash coming off the worst year of his career and dwight coming off microfracture.... also say what you want about Kyrie or Harden but Dwight is a bigger knuclehead then all of them.

3) Harden-Kyrie-KD are ALREADY tight. they have played together on many circuits for team usa and pro-ams.

We would be getting an MVP in his prime coming off 35/8/6 62 TS season... and giving up... 3 role players (1 injury prone and 2 rentals) and some picks.

Stop overthinking it. this would be a heist

Everything you said is true. But I’d put my money on KD and Kyrie actually not wanting Harden to come

[Prokorov]

Kyrie
Harden
Harris
KD
Jordan

Nobody is beating that lineup. We will by far be the best team in the NBA. You guys are insane if you don't want it to happen.

You can just heavily stagger Kyrie/Harden. And Kyrie will have to become more pass first like he was with LeBron.

Having 3 elite scorers will not be a bad thing. We will slaughter teams.

Offensively if guys buy in to Nash and MDA's system, we will be unstoppable.

Now on the other hand, we literally can't defend any of the other top teams with that line up. We will need to find defense via the MLE and vet mins.

With no bench, we will definitely be the top target for ring chasers.

I see us getting some good pieces through the MLE and vet mins.

Absolutely...

Also dont underestimate that Kyrie and KD are super popular with their peers. Harden also. all 3 guys are super involved in olympic teams and pro ams where they connect with alot of other guys. Kyrie and Harden are also some of the bigger donors to other players causes.

My choices:

MLE: Baynes or Ibaka

Ring chasers: DJ Augustin, Paul milsap, jeff teague, napier, Gasol,

[Prokorov]

Kevin Durant isn't a ball hog. Also, this is nothing even comparable to the Boston trade. James Harden is in his prime, KG and PP were not.

I don't want to lose those guys either but the more i think about it the more I say go for it. We only have a 3 year window to win a championship and an Irving/Harden/Durant 1-2-3 punch is an elite offense if Harden and Irving buy in to what Nash and MDA want to do offensively. My main concerns are the personalities involved here.

the idea anyone is on the fence about this is ABSURD.

1) We would have arguably the best offensive trio OF ALL TIME. we would LITERALLU have a USA dream team on the floor (Kyrie/KD/Harden/Jordan all played on the 2012-2016 teams and Harris on the last one.

2) Almost every single big 3 has worked to some extent: Lebron/Wade/Bosh, Lebron/Kyrie/Love, Pierce/Garnett/Allen, Steph/Klay/KD. the only one in recent history that didnt work was Kobe/Nash/Dwight but that was a 39 year old nash coming off the worst year of his career and dwight coming off microfracture.... also say what you want about Kyrie or Harden but Dwight is a bigger knuclehead then all of them.

3) Harden-Kyrie-KD are ALREADY tight. they have played together on many circuits for team usa and pro-ams.

We would be getting an MVP in his prime coming off 35/8/6 62 TS season... and giving up... 3 role players (1 injury prone and 2 rentals) and some picks.

Stop overthinking it. this would be a heist

Everything you said is true. But I’d put my money on KD and Kyrie actually not wanting Harden to come

KD wants Harden to come. He spoke about him with barnes/Sjax on the all the smoke podcast. how he hated that okc dealt harden and how he thinks james would have helped them get a ring and that he'd be down to play with him. I'm sure kyrie does too. these guys are the eltie players of their generation and have played together in several places beyond just the NBA.

[CeltsfaninDC]

If Allen is gone then we should go after Aaron Baynes as his replacement. Also, We should try to keep our pick this year, this might be the highest pick we have in some years . We can draft one of the many 3 nd D wings out of this draft which is a need or we can even get a point guard to replace Din.

Baynes is not signing up to play with Kyrie again. It was his lying that caused the Cs to renounce Baynes so that he had to sign in PHX. He was pissed about that and I don't see him voluntarily signing up for that again

[MrDollarBills]

if we have any assets left over after harden we should trade them for norm powell

I'm pretty sure we're coughing up the entire war chest for Harden. Vet minimum ring chasers will have to fill the void on D

I'm not so sure. in a "blow'it up" situation with the star (harden) choosing his detination the incoming team is typically jobbed into taking 75 cents on the dollar. i think most of it goes to the rockets, but i can see us retaining some pieces still.

dream scenario:

-Dinwiddie/Levert/Allen/2 picks for hardem
-1 pick plus claxton for powell plus anything else we can figure out to send them
-sign Baynes to the MLE

Kyrie | Harden | Harris | KD | Baynes

how the eff do you defend that lineup? 4 super elite shooters, 3 super elite iso players, 2 elite pick and roll players and an enormous stretch 5 who will kill you on the glass if you go small on him.

then you have Powell, Brown, Temple, vet chasing defenders when needed

personally i dont think we need as much defense a speople are making out. it is going to be near impossible to go bucket for bucket with irving/KD/Kyrie

thats three 30 ppg 50/40/90 tyoes

I doubt Toronto does that deal with us.

The math only works with Houston if we send Spencer/LeVert/Prince as the base of the deal.

I have to imagine that we are going to give up Allen, + 2 future 1sts and possibly #19 this season as well.

After that, the assets are gone. Claxton imo is overvalued in the Nets fandom, he has little value in a deal outside of here especially for a solid piece like Powell. If Marks is going to do this, we need to go all in.

[Prokorov]

If Allen is gone then we should go after Aaron Baynes as his replacement. Also, We should try to keep our pick this year, this might be the highest pick we have in some years . We can draft one of the many 3 nd D wings out of this draft which is a need or we can even get a point guard to replace Din.

Baynes is not signing up to play with Kyrie again. It was his lying that caused the Cs to renounce Baynes so that he had to sign in PHX. He was pissed about that and I don't see him voluntarily signing up for that again

Fake news. Baynes is pissed at Ainge for not picking a direction and hanging on to a pipe dream of keeping kyrie and other trades to swing for a star.