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Post#261 » by Prokorov » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:07 pm

Openheimer wrote:Harden controlled the tempo all night but for some reason Nash gave the ball to Kyrie in the clutch and he kept missing shots and the Clippers came back.


Kyrie has been our clutch guy all year, and historically. I have no issue with him taking that shot hot or cold. we have seen him go cold before and still drill daggers. I thought the possesions before harden should have taken Batum once he was switched on to him. either way you cant go wrong. both had chances late to hit daggers but came up short. but they also helped build a big lead so it didnt matter.
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Post#262 » by Gamezero05 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:29 pm

GTR11 wrote:I'm amused the way Harden played D this trip. Guy is rock down low and has quick hands on a perimeter. Check some tape and see for yourself, he's been nothing short of amazing.
It’s been somewhat of a secret for years that only Rockets fans knew. Harden is one of the best post defenders in the league at any position. He can guard centers down low and win. He’s so strong yet also quick enough to get a steal if they put the ball on the floor. He is elite when measuring his opponent’s points per possession on the block. He shuts them down.

And even the opponents don’t do their homework because when he got switched into a big man, they’d throw it down low thinking it was a mismatch. In a way it is a mismatch... but it’s the offensive player who is at a disadvantage when trying to bully James Harden.
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Post#263 » by Keith Van Horn » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:33 pm

what a week. Great cap to the road trip too with another win.

I'm proud of how the team is playing, but don't want them to let up at all. And it seems that everyone is finding their groove and role with the team now too.
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Post#264 » by Prokorov » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:35 pm

therealbig3 wrote:We've legit owned the West this year. We're 10-3 overall against the West this year, and 8-0 against the current playoff teams.

Wonder how many times an East team dominated the top teams in the West, while being the weaker conference. It's gotta be incredibly rare.


The rest of the east being trash doesnt really effect the Nets thought. just like lebrons heat or lebrons cavs. those teams won title in spite of the east being dog turd
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Post#265 » by Prokorov » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:37 pm

Whiskey Slick wrote:I know we traditionally do the King, Knight and Jester thing,
but DeAndre Jordan deserves a shoutout for PLAY OF THE GAME too.

That put-back of Kyrie's missed 3 is what won us the game, and it's about time we give DJ some love. Not only for that play, but for his play as of late. He's turned it around and is playing on a much higher level than he was early; offensively, defensively and rebounding.

He's still gonna need some help at the 5 because he's not a young man and Uncle Jeff (who God willing is healthy) is more of a 3/4 swing man, even a 4 if that's where we want to play him, but we still need another legit 5 so we don't wear DJ out with too many minutes. Most of us want Drummond, ME TOO, but if we can't get him maybe we should give the Lakers competition for Cousins? Not saying we should. Just throwing it out there.

Dinwiddie for Cousins?

DJ and Cousins splitting time at the 5, with Uncle Jeff taking about 10 minutes might work,
and Cousins is only making around 2.5 million with Houston so the contracts might work too?

Then when Claxton comes back he can take minutes at the 4 and 5 too, to help out Uncle Jeff.


i wouldnt want cousins for free. let alone trade dinwiddie for him
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Post#266 » by MGrand15 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:53 pm

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GTR11 wrote:I'm amused the way Harden played D this trip. Guy is rock down low and has quick hands on a perimeter. Check some tape and see for yourself, he's been nothing short of amazing.
It’s been somewhat of a secret for years that only Rockets fans knew. Harden is one of the best post defenders in the league at any position. He can guard centers down low and win. He’s so strong yet also quick enough to get a steal if they put the ball on the floor. He is elite when measuring his opponent’s points per possession on the block. He shuts them down.

And even the opponents don’t do their homework because when he got switched into a big man, they’d throw it down low thinking it was a mismatch. In a way it is a mismatch... but it’s the offensive player who is at a disadvantage when trying to bully James Harden.


The stats have been floating out there for a few years now but it's impressive to watch day in and day out. He has super quick hands. He's so strong. It lets us switch everything pretty effortlessly. And it even lets us play Harden at the 4 when KD is out.
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Post#267 » by MGrand15 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:02 pm

I love the toughness we're showing as a team. On paper, we were overmatched tonight. Clips had the size advantage 2 through 5. Their stars played really well. They shot 43% from 3. We still completely controlled the game. Got enough stops and rebounds. Didn't turn the ball over. Played physical. Found a way to win.

On a bad shooting night, we still put up 112 on a really good defense and crushed them in the paint. 9 times out of 10 - Kyrie hits a dagger in this game and sends them home early. Somehow he just missed all of them.

The team is really coming together. Hope we can keep it up when we go home. We need to get healthy though.
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Post#268 » by Suwanee » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:26 pm

The same offensive foul was called on Harden more often than not. I'm glad Harden is the beneficiary on the receiving end this time.
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Post#269 » by MGrand15 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:35 pm

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Whiskey Slick wrote:I know we traditionally do the King, Knight and Jester thing,
but DeAndre Jordan deserves a shoutout for PLAY OF THE GAME too.

That put-back of Kyrie's missed 3 is what won us the game, and it's about time we give DJ some love. Not only for that play, but for his play as of late. He's turned it around and is playing on a much higher level than he was early; offensively, defensively and rebounding.

He's still gonna need some help at the 5 because he's not a young man and Uncle Jeff (who God willing is healthy) is more of a 3/4 swing man, even a 4 if that's where we want to play him, but we still need another legit 5 so we don't wear DJ out with too many minutes. Most of us want Drummond, ME TOO, but if we can't get him maybe we should give the Lakers competition for Cousins? Not saying we should. Just throwing it out there.

Dinwiddie for Cousins?

DJ and Cousins splitting time at the 5, with Uncle Jeff taking about 10 minutes might work,
and Cousins is only making around 2.5 million with Houston so the contracts might work too?

Then when Claxton comes back he can take minutes at the 4 and 5 too, to help out Uncle Jeff.


i wouldnt want cousins for free. let alone trade dinwiddie for him


Cousins has been awfully inefficient this year. Shooting UNDER 40% as a big. And the Rockets are getting rid of him because his defense is THAT bad. That should say it all.

He was also extremely critical of Harden when he left Houston - so he probably burned that bridge.

Hard pass on Cousins. I'll take a chance on Pelle or Vonleh before signing Cousins.
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Post#270 » by Prokorov » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:42 pm

MGrand15 wrote:I love the toughness we're showing as a team. On paper, we were overmatched tonight. Clips had the size advantage 2 through 5. Their stars played really well. They shot 43% from 3. We still completely controlled the game. Got enough stops and rebounds. Didn't turn the ball over. Played physical. Found a way to win.

On a bad shooting night, we still put up 112 on a really good defense and crushed them in the paint. 9 times out of 10 - Kyrie hits a dagger in this game and sends them home early. Somehow he just missed all of them.

The team is really coming together. Hope we can keep it up when we go home. We need to get healthy though.


yup, we also missed an early knockout punch.... brown steal to shamet for 3 rimmed out. would have extended the lead to 18 and forced a sure timeout. clips came back and hit a 3 to make it 12.

game was much closer then it should have beem. but you nailed it. we were missing our best player, their stars played great, off night for kyrie/shamet and we still were up double digits most of the second half
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Post#271 » by GTR11 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:05 pm

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Gamezero05 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:I'm amused the way Harden played D this trip. Guy is rock down low and has quick hands on a perimeter. Check some tape and see for yourself, he's been nothing short of amazing.
It’s been somewhat of a secret for years that only Rockets fans knew. Harden is one of the best post defenders in the league at any position. He can guard centers down low and win. He’s so strong yet also quick enough to get a steal if they put the ball on the floor. He is elite when measuring his opponent’s points per possession on the block. He shuts them down.

And even the opponents don’t do their homework because when he got switched into a big man, they’d throw it down low thinking it was a mismatch. In a way it is a mismatch... but it’s the offensive player who is at a disadvantage when trying to bully James Harden.


The stats have been floating out there for a few years now but it's impressive to watch day in and day out. He has super quick hands. He's so strong. It lets us switch everything pretty effortlessly. And it even lets us play Harden at the 4 when KD is out.


The reason I pointed it out was Harden haven't done that on daily consistent basis. Since he arrived to BK guy picked his defensive game to another level. Sure some can say he had much different role in Houston and they'll be right too, thing is Harden is on a mission from what I see right now. He's the main reason we have this great flow on offense and he's our top D guy.
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Post#272 » by Prokorov » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:12 pm

After watching the game again today, we really outplayed them. We tried "not to lose" from 8 minutes left to 2 minutes left then tried to haymaker/heroball to a W when our lead dwindled. but really, this game wasnt really close.

The clippers are not in our league. they are a tier below. and thats without KD. with KD they are multiple tiers below.

Only teams that would worry me is Lakers with AD + someone good the get via trade for KCP/Montrez or boston if they added something like Turner + Holiday. even then not so much.

We are probably still only playing at 60% capacity due to guys missing games, no chemistry and not backup center. once we are full strength for 10-15 games its going to be blowouts of great teams on the reg.
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Post#273 » by GTR11 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:34 pm

After watching some videos and live games its really hard to stop this offense. I mean stopping Harden from generating offense requires game plan alone, you add the fact we have multiple players who can put it on a floor and create offense too, I have no clue how stop that.
Miami and GSW had their stars, but Bosh and Klay won't scare you as a playmakers. You'd rather force them to be that because they great at everything else. Kyrie even being scorer first guard still has amazing handles that create offense for others. KD is KD, James freaking Harden is everything we wished J.Kidd should be.
I've been watching NBA for almost 30 years now and I haven't seen anything like this team. Three great efficient scorers that can create offense without being liability on D is something unseen of. I truly starting to believe this is dynasty team that needs several role players to make others wish they can have type team they can cheer for. We really in a great place guys. Let's just enjoy this ride.

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Plays like this, I mean how you suppose to stop it. This is top D. Than you have Utah with washed up Conley, Bogs, Ingles to check Kyri while Brown, Joe, Jeff etc rolling or spotting up. I just don't know. This is something we haven't seen yet.
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Post#274 » by Prokorov » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:42 pm

Paradise wrote:PG is such a sore loser lol

“They had the refs in their pockets.”

“They played a unique defense we haven’t really seen and it threw us off.”

Meanwhile, Kawhi can walk out after one question while interrupting another player’s press conference.



everytime he loses their is an excuse. dude its you. you're trash and bring every team you play for down. We won because you played 25+ minutes, not because you missed 2.

how many times do we need to slap you with our shlong before it sinks in?
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Post#275 » by Prokorov » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:44 pm

GTR11 wrote:After watching some videos and live games its really hard to stop this offense. I mean stopping Harden from generating offense requires game plan alone, you add the fact we have multiple players who can put it on a floor and create offense too, I have no clue how stop that.
Miami and GSW had their stars, but Bosh and Klay won't scare you as a playmakers. You'd rather force them to be that because they great at everything else. Kyrie even being scorer first guard still has amazing handles that create offense for others. KD is KD, James freaking Harden is everything we wished J.Kidd should be.
I've been watching NBA for almost 30 years now and I haven't seen anything like this team. Three great efficient scorers that can create offense without being liability on D is something unseen of. I truly starting to believe this is dynasty team that needs several role players to make others wish they can have type team they can cheer for. We really in a great place guys. Let's just enjoy this ride.

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Plays like this, I mean how you suppose to stop it. This is top D. Than you have Utah with washed up Conley, Bogs, Ingles to check Kyri while Brown, Joe, Jeff etc rolling or spotting up. I just don't know. This is something we haven't seen yet.


Most teams need 2-3 screens to hope to switch their star on a mismatch so that he can "maybe" beat his guy 1 on 1.

all three of our big three can beat any defender in the league 1 on 1. elite defenders. thats the difference. thats impossible to stop.
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Post#276 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:13 pm

Prokorov wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:I love the toughness we're showing as a team. On paper, we were overmatched tonight. Clips had the size advantage 2 through 5. Their stars played really well. They shot 43% from 3. We still completely controlled the game. Got enough stops and rebounds. Didn't turn the ball over. Played physical. Found a way to win.

On a bad shooting night, we still put up 112 on a really good defense and crushed them in the paint. 9 times out of 10 - Kyrie hits a dagger in this game and sends them home early. Somehow he just missed all of them.

The team is really coming together. Hope we can keep it up when we go home. We need to get healthy though.


yup, we also missed an early knockout punch.... brown steal to shamet for 3 rimmed out. would have extended the lead to 18 and forced a sure timeout. clips came back and hit a 3 to make it 12.

game was much closer then it should have beem. but you nailed it. we were missing our best player, their stars played great, off night for kyrie/shamet and we still were up double digits most of the second half


This is what I was saying last night, we were down multiple rotation players (including KD) and we controlled them from start to finish.

When this team is at 100% the beatings will be fast and morale killing to other teams. There is no answer for this offense.
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Post#277 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:15 pm

GTR11 wrote:After watching some videos and live games its really hard to stop this offense. I mean stopping Harden from generating offense requires game plan alone, you add the fact we have multiple players who can put it on a floor and create offense too, I have no clue how stop that.
Miami and GSW had their stars, but Bosh and Klay won't scare you as a playmakers. You'd rather force them to be that because they great at everything else. Kyrie even being scorer first guard still has amazing handles that create offense for others. KD is KD, James freaking Harden is everything we wished J.Kidd should be.
I've been watching NBA for almost 30 years now and I haven't seen anything like this team. Three great efficient scorers that can create offense without being liability on D is something unseen of. I truly starting to believe this is dynasty team that needs several role players to make others wish they can have type team they can cheer for. We really in a great place guys. Let's just enjoy this ride.

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Plays like this, I mean how you suppose to stop it. This is top D. Than you have Utah with washed up Conley, Bogs, Ingles to check Kyri while Brown, Joe, Jeff etc rolling or spotting up. I just don't know. This is something we haven't seen yet.


Having Brown play the roll man to exploit how excellent he is around the rim is solid coaching. He was eating last night, and will continue to do so.
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Post#278 » by therealbig3 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:55 pm

George is a fake superstar. Plays well in the RS, has an extremely over-inflated sense of how good he actually is, and then chokes in the PS every year. And then it's a bunch of excuses and no accountability afterwards.

I also think he's been riding that rep of being an elite defender for years now and hasn't actually been an elite defender in a long time. He gives up dribble penetration like nobodies' business and gets away with a ton of fouling and reaching because of his rep, but it ends up getting him in foul trouble and dumb situational fouls at the worst times.
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Post#279 » by Papi_swav » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:10 pm

This team is unstoppable . We swept the whole road trip. We played great defense today, great job by DJ and Brown and also harden and the whole team. We beat elite teams and all this without KD. Any word on Jeff Green? Pat Bev is such a dirty player and always hurting somebody. Some1 needs to kick his ankles in.
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Post#280 » by sashaturiaf » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:29 pm

Yes Harden is a great post defender. The man gave the great Kobe Bryant trouble in the post in his prime.

Don't buy the Harden bad defender narrative, he was on the rockets when he had to carry the entire offense but on the Nets it's a different story. He's not a shutdown guy but he's strong and long for a guard, high bball IQ and got quick hands. I think he's above average when he tries

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