TRADE: Kidd to Mavericks (ALL POSTS HERE!!!!)

Post #261 » by **jerseyjac** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:20 pm

Thorn states good possiblility of Miller being traded...but not to the "Northeast"...

Post #262 » by **jerseyjac** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:22 pm

Thorn: Suns take a "big gamble" on Shaq...and then he just picks them to come out of the West...unbelievable...

G_MoNeY · Post #263 » by **G_MoNeY** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:25 pm

jerseyjac wrote:Thorn states good possiblility of Miller being traded...but not to the "Northeast"...

GRR

Post #264 » by **jerseyjac** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:26 pm

Thorn stated that there was issues with chemistry...did not want to blame Kidd alone, but it was definitely an issue...they want to make the playoffs and think we can w. the current Nets unit...obviously a lot has to do with how much of contribution Harris can make due to his injury...

Thorn also eluded to that if he knew Kidd was going to ask for a trade...he would of possibly went in a different direction with the contract he gave Vince Carter...

Post #265 » by **jerseyjac** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:27 pm

uuuhhhhhhh, I need a new sig...please...anyone interested in hooking me up please PM me...thanx...

Pugsley_2491 · Post #266 » by **Pugsley_2491** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:31 pm

YES!!!!
best news so far. wow how stupid of the mavs to protect this years pick and leave 2010 UNPROTECTED. WOOOOOOT hahaha wow I'm pumped. As of what he said of Miller, I'm not going to shed too many tears over it, we would've had to lose at least one of our draft picks for him I mean for people to think we could've gotten him for just boki's and maggs's expirings would be pretty naiive.

S.I.C. GM · Post #267 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:39 pm

Pugsley_2491 wrote:YES!!!!
best news so far. wow how stupid of the mavs to protect this years pick and leave 2010 UNPROTECTED. WOOOOOOT hahaha wow I'm pumped. As of what he said of Miller, I'm not going to shed too many tears over it, we would've had to lose at least one of our draft picks for him I mean for people to think we could've gotten him for just boki's and maggs's expirings would be pretty naiive.

Pugsley, I am with you.

Great News!!! Next Year the West will be tougher for Dallas. Spurs should be back healthy. The Suns will be better. NO will be better. Utah will be better. Lakers would be healthy. Even Houston, GS and Portland will be better. They will be good, but it will be hard then this year.

I wouldnt add any pieces this year. Trade VC for expiring and picks like Kidd I would be happy. Sit Krstic and RJ for the rest of the season.

TANKING ALL NIGHT LONG!!!!!!!

EFF · Post #268 » by **EFF** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:25 pm

Tank and then what? who in the draft is even that good? There are so many bad teams. we arent gonna be able to catch a top 5 pick. Keep vince and get miller and we still have a good team.

Trade RJ while he's still a borderline all-star!!!!

Netaman · Post #269 » by **Netaman** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:26 pm

S.I.C. GM wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Pugsley, I am with you.

Great News!!! Next Year the West will be tougher for Dallas. Spurs should be back healthy. The Suns will be better. NO will be better. Utah will be better. Lakers would be healthy. Even Houston, GS and Portland will be better. They will be good, but it will be hard then this year.

I wouldnt add any pieces this year. Trade VC for expiring and picks like Kidd I would be happy. Sit Krstic and RJ for the rest of the season.

TANKING ALL NIGHT LONG!!!!!!!

I think it is important to give it our best shot the rest of the year. I wouldn't make any "now" trades, and if I could ditch VC I would, but at the same time there would be a big credibility crisis if we go right back to the way we were pre-Kidd. Not to mention everyone would probably say "they are just waiting for Brooklyn". Plus there are no sure things with the lottery system.

The best case scenario is to go all out and do the following.

a) Hope someone gives up something good for VC and/or make a trade for an all star big man right now. Both are very doubtful.

b) Play out the season, hope that some of new building blocks step up and gel. And hopefully Carter can carry the team to a few playoff wins because that will greatly enhance his trade value.

c) In the offseason let Rod do what he does best. Use whatever picks, expirings, and prospects we have (which will hopefully include a good return on VC) and find this team its next franchise player.

Worst case scenario, we make no trades, the team goes in the toilet, we get ourselves a top 10 pick anyways, and then dump Carter in the offseason for whatever we can get.

Post #270 » by **studcrackers** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:01 pm

well this trades finally done, you guys are gonna love devin, he's a 1 man fast break and can break down a defense with his penetration like no other. i hate giving up diop b/c i think losing him makes us weaker in the interior

ive read a little on wright from u guys and are pretty down on him aside from being an ok defender. but how good is malik allen? can he play defense and rebound, is he a good shot blocker?

lurkingobeiscity · Post #271 » by **lurkingobeiscity** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:22 pm

Don't count on anything from Allen. I like Wright since he has nice defense and does what he is supposed to. His shot is decent but his play tends to be based on his confidence which is very up and down.

Realmavsman · Post #272 » by **Realmavsman** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:07 am

Pugsley_2491 wrote:YES!!!!
best news so far. wow how stupid of the mavs to protect this years pick and leave 2010 UNPROTECTED. WOOOOOOT hahaha wow I'm pumped. As of what he said of Miller, I'm not going to shed too many tears over it, we would've had to lose at least one of our draft picks for him I mean for people to think we could've gotten him for just boki's and maggs's expirings would be pretty naiive.

The Mavs are 2 games from being the number #1 seed in the West. And by the way they are also 2 games from being in the lottery. So if they all stay healthy they will certainly not be in the lottery. But they are still one major injury away from having a lottery pick this year.

I would have preferred that both picks be lottery protected but protecting this years is not as ridiculous as it might seem at first glance. The West is absolutely stacked and if Dirk gets hurt for an extended period the Mavs could easily slip out of the top 8.

Post #273 » by **jazzfan1971** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:13 am

Congrats on a great deal. Not quite as good as LA got with Gasol, but, I really like this deal for you guys.

BigWil17 · Post #274 » by **BigWil17** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:17 am

studcrackers wrote:well this trades finally done, you guys are gonna love devin, he's a 1 man fast break and can break down a defense with his penetration like no other. i hate giving up diop b/c i think losing him makes us weaker in the interior

ive read a little on wright from u guys and are pretty down on him aside from being an ok defender. but how good is malik allen? can he play defense and rebound, is he a good shot blocker?

Nope. He's a good spot up shooter though.

Serpo · Post #275 » by **Serpo** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:25 am

And thats the only thing he can do.

His defense consists of waiving his hands and accidently hit someone with it for stupid foul , or not doing anything .

Post #276 » by **studcrackers** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:52 am

well nets fan, any of you interested in my perspective on the trade here it is:

http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com/

i dont really discuss kidd coming here other then i dont see us winning without a backup big man but it's ver pro harris

MrDollarBills · Post #277 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:54 pm

why tank when we can rebuild on the fly?

treiz · Post #278 » by **treiz** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:54 pm

We don't need to tank. We still have good pieces to build from, if we can trade some picks to get higher and trade VC, hopefully Mayo or a top SG can end up here in the draft, and the year after make some noise.

slaman · Post #279 » by **slaman** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:43 am

Nets President Rod Thorn on Harris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Dh2AYkITY

mavsfan1000 · Post #280 » by **mavsfan1000** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:41 am

My only complaint of Devin Harris is he gets injured a lot. He is really fast and his shot has really improved. Diop is a shotblocking beast and will help your defense and rebounding. I think the Nets made well on this trade. Dallas really needs a backup center now as that was a big loss.