Trade Targets

[Ronito]

Varejao is not going to be a Net. We don't have the assets, at all. I will bet money on this.

[vincecarter4pres]

I wouldn't want him at the cost of 1sts, Tele and **** either, he's made of hairline cracked glass being held together by Major League Chew.

[bobbyc]

Alright, well we should look to deal with TOR in a three team deal. They have some contracts that they would like to get rid of. Also, they are going to want to unload cause they suck. So, just sub in whatever pf that you want.

BKN in Nene, kleiza, fields
out hump, teletovic, brooks, bogans, childress, 2 firsts

WAS in Bargnani, nets 2 firsts, childress, bogans
out Nene

TOR in Hump, teletovic, brooks
out bargani, fields, kleiza

[vincecarter4pres]

Can't we just keep it simple lol?

Hump/MarShon or a 1st for Nene?

[Jersey Generals]

Why would anyone want Fields? He's terrible.

[deepblueday]

why would washington want to dump nene for essentially nothing again? whats the master plan, just suck and tank forever? when you manage to acquire a good player, dump him for a sh*t one and a mediocre prospect and tank more?

[jerseyjac]

Outside a slam dunk trade i actually wouldn't make any moves.

Kevin Love looks like the next star that will ask out so it would be worthwhile staying patient and waiting to make the right move.

If we could somehow (there's literally no way it happens) keep Lopez while bringing in Love it would be perfect.

Love would be a great PF with Lopez but that's not happening.

I agree....and say no to Nene...

Love & LMA are definitely nice targets...concerned w/ Gasol regardless of availability now showing a possible chronic injury...

[PetroNet]

..to play with D.Will

After January 15


D.Will, Hump, Childress, Bogans
for
Nash, Gasol, Clark, Ebanks, MEM #2


Nets
Nash / Watson / Taylor
Johnson / Brooks / Stackhouse
Wallace / Ebanks / Shengelia
Gasol / Evans / Teletovic
Lopez / Blatche / Clark

Nets go all out and try to win a title this year. Fully healthy they would have arguably the best starting 5 in the game.However, the odds of them all being healthy are not high, and their window all of 2 years. However JJ and Wallace are already past their primes as well and 2 of their top 4 players. They still have plenty of assets like all their first rounders, Brooks, Euros etc to try to make another upgrade. Imagine a Nash / Kidd rivalry in NY at age 40?



Lakers
D.Will / Duhon / Blake
Kobe / Meeks / Odom
MWP / Childress / Bogans
Jamison / Humphries
Dwight / Hill / Sacre

LA makes the original pairing happen, and they would look to add Love to that when his contract is up....or a marquee FA in 2014 when everyone other than Deron and Dwight would expire.

Shame on you. The overreactions on this board are riddiculous. between this trade and paradise/HelloBrooklyn having mood swings anytime an opponent scores its just out of control.

Dwill/hump for nash/gasol?!?!?!

how about we are 13-9 inspite of missing brook for 7 games, having a completely new team try and gel, playing some really good teams, and dwill and crash playing through injury.

4 days ago joe johnson was public enemy number one. now its "JJ was coming around i knew it all along!"

the heat were 10-10 with the big 3 to start out. and lost to some BAD teams in that span.

Lets not go trading our best player for a 38 year old who CANT play through injuries just yet.

[HelloBrooklyn]

D-Will for Rondo!!!!!

[HelloBrooklyn]

Shame on you. The overreactions on this board are riddiculous. between this trade and paradise/HelloBrooklyn having mood swings anytime an opponent scores its just out of control.

Dwill/hump for nash/gasol?!?!?!

how about we are 13-9 inspite of missing brook for 7 games, having a completely new team try and gel, playing some really good teams, and dwill and crash playing through injury.

4 days ago joe johnson was public enemy number one. now its "JJ was coming around i knew it all along!"

the heat were 10-10 with the big 3 to start out. and lost to some BAD teams in that span.

Lets not go trading our best player for a 38 year old who CANT play through injuries just yet.

I've been incredibly lenient with D-Will. I've been backing him up for 2 seasons now. Yet, he hasn't given me any concrete evidence if he can be a leader of this team. Most of the people blame other players in the roster. Yet, the main leader gets a pass for what reasons? He should be taking the most of the blame. If he is a true leader of this team he should be understand how to get everyone around him excel a lot more. Yet, he is playing a role for himself. Which he is also doing a terrible job at.

You all say Hump, Brooks, Blatche, Avery. I say D-Will

[PetroNet]

I've been incredibly lenient with D-Will. I've been backing him up for 2 seasons now.

i'm calling shenanigans on this part. as im sure i can go back into several of last years game threads and there are tons of posts of you bashing him left and right. You ahve kind of been a dwill hater for a while now.

Yet, he hasn't given me any concrete evidence if he can be a leader of this team. Most of the people blame other players in the roster. Yet, the main leader gets a pass for what reasons? He should be taking the most of the blame. If he is a true leader of this team he should be understand how to get everyone around him excel a lot more.

-He got players into the gym early before TC to have them work out.
-He is playing through what appears to be multiple injuries
-He has called HIMSELF out, and has brushed off every excuse, when reporters made it easy for him to use them(injhury/chemistry)
-He has gone back to trying to set up teammates, isntead of being the first scoring option

I see no evidence of him not being a leader. in fact, i see plenty evidence of him doing all the right things. Playing hurt, putting in extra work, saying the right things, committing defensively.

the only thing i dont see him really doing, is playing/shooting well. and im not going to knock LEADERSHIP because of missed shots. he obviously needs to play better. but the effort is there, and while he isnt playing at superstar level, he is certainly helping us win.

like i said earlier, the overreactions are out of control. we have 60 games left. inspite of injuries/coaching/chemistry/horrible shooting we are 2nd in the divison/4th in the conference. You dont have that kind of success in the face of all that without leadership and hard work.

[NyCeEvO]

Can't we just keep it simple lol?

Hump/MarShon or a 1st for Nene?

Sounds good to me.

Helps WAS tank, get a higher draft pick, and saves them money.

[HelloBrooklyn]

i'm calling shenanigans on this part. as im sure i can go back into several of last years game threads and there are tons of posts of you bashing him left and right. You ahve kind of been a dwill hater for a while now.

Nah last year, I thought he was better than CP3. Because he is a big body PG. Which can be true if you have the philosophy of stronger is always better. It's like the same debate 2 years ago of whose better Chris Johnson VS Adrian Peterson. AP wins because he is stronger.

I've been hating on D-Will earlier this season because he always takes big game changing highlight shots and he always fails. A perfect exposure is when he tried to dunk over DeAndre and Blake Griffin. Honestly what the hell was he thinking attempting that dunk? I feel like he makes this type of plays every game which is annoying.

-He got players into the gym early before TC to have them work out.
-He is playing through what appears to be multiple injuries
-He has called HIMSELF out, and has brushed off every excuse, when reporters made it easy for him to use them(injhury/chemistry)
-He has gone back to trying to set up teammates, isntead of being the first scoring option

I see no evidence of him not being a leader. in fact, i see plenty evidence of him doing all the right things. Playing hurt, putting in extra work, saying the right things, committing defensively.

the only thing i dont see him really doing, is playing/shooting well. and im not going to knock LEADERSHIP because of missed shots. he obviously needs to play better. but the effort is there, and while he isnt playing at superstar level, he is certainly helping us win.

like i said earlier, the overreactions are out of control. we have 60 games left. inspite of injuries/coaching/chemistry/horrible shooting we are 2nd in the divison/4th in the conference. You dont have that kind of success in the face of all that without leadership and hard work.

Ok I'll mention a few

Excelling a fight against bad players like AJ Price does not show good leadership

Disappearing every close games so far the season also doesn't show good leadership

Not doing everything he can even if his shot isn't going in (i.e. rebounding, defense, etc.) doesn't show good leadership

taking ill-advised shot like trying to dunk against Blake and DeAndre or shooting inefficient 3s also shows he is not a leader.

The effort is not there? I don't know how long you've been a Nets fan for but when you watch JKidd back in the Nets that's when you know what's a true leader really is. When that guy doesn't make shots he fills up the rest of the board with hard work. Which exactly what Gerald Wallace displayed against the Bucks. That's the attitude we need D-Will to have.

[N Ireland Nets]

As more time goes by the more I think we shouldn't make any moves or give up any asset unless its for a star.

There's unrest in LA, Love seems to want out of Timberwolves land and players like LMA have to be questioning what they are doing on a rebuilding team.

Point is, so long as we keep our picks and our minimal assets like Brooks, Hump and our picks. We need to be patient and just wait for the right player to become available and due to the fact we are in Brooklyn now, we are a prime destination.

Random question but how quickly can a player be moved after you make a trade. What I mean is if we were to send Hump away for Nene, when could we move Nene?

[REGG-G-UNIT]

I've seen some unrealistic names thrown out in this thread... But I'll throw these two out there:

- Derrick Williams (Minnesota is in desperate need of a shooting guard... Dilemma for the Nets is that Williams hasn't shown that much, on the flipside he'd add an extreme dose of athleticism to the team and actually knows how to run the pick-and-roll, could Williams help to shape him into a Millsap style player?)

- Andrea Bargnani (It's obvious that he's available, we all know he's a poor rebounder but defensively he's not as bad as many make him out to be, people love to stress what Bargnani can't do but never talk about what he does do. Aside from his shooting ability Bargnani has one of the best first steps of any big man in the league and is also capable of getting to the line at a reasonable rate, between him and Lopez there is quite a bit of length to compensate for their defensive shortcomings...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-zOpCeE6zo

[NyCeEvO]

why would washington want to dump nene for essentially nothing again? whats the master plan, just suck and tank forever?

I believe that's what they call the "OKC model" that many teams are trying to adopt. Whether it's right or not, it's the direction teams are heading in.

when you manage to acquire a good player, dump him for a sh*t one and a mediocre prospect and tank more?

Obviously, there's much more to it than that.

Nene is good but he's no franchise changer.

McGee was an expiring player and the Wiz traded him for a dude with 4 more years at $13mil per season. It's not like they've been winning a lot with him. If they're going to tank, they should do it.

Trading them Hump gives them an expiring contract next season and helps them tank to get a better pick.

They'll be heading into the 2014 offseason with 3 high draft pick players and cap space to sign a star or trade one of your younger players for one of those star players on the last year of their contract.

The deal is much bigger than getting Hump. It can potentially help them turn around their franchise.

[REGG-G-UNIT]

I like Nene and have advocated getting him before, but his injury concerns scare me.

I think given where this team is you'd have to pull the trigger on a deal to acquire him, but acquiring him comes with significant risks...

[Keith Van Horn]

Hell no to even think about trading DWill. I don't care how bad he's playing right now, he's still DWill and has a lot of pull with this organization and a lot of respoect around the league. I know he will break out at some point. He's not completely broken.

I really don't think DWill, JJ, and Wallace should be in any sort of trade consideration.

[Keith Van Horn]

I've seen some unrealistic names thrown out in this thread... But I'll throw these two out there:

- Derrick Williams (Minnesota is in desperate need of a shooting guard... Dilemma for the Nets is that Williams hasn't shown that much, on the flipside he'd add an extreme dose of athleticism to the team and actually knows how to run the pick-and-roll, could Williams help to shape him into a Millsap style player?)

- Andrea Bargnani (It's obvious that he's available, we all know he's a poor rebounder but defensively he's not as bad as many make him out to be, people love to stress what Bargnani can't do but never talk about what he does do. Aside from his shooting ability Bargnani has one of the best first steps of any big man in the league and is also capable of getting to the line at a reasonable rate, between him and Lopez there is quite a bit of length to compensate for their defensive shortcomings...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-zOpCeE6zo

I see where you're coming from on these guys. Probably more realistic targets than Love, LMA, or Nene. Both of those guys are huge question marks right now but given a change of scenario they may work out better than Hump right now.

And I don't think Reggie Evans is the answer at starting PF. I think he's fantastic coming in off the bench with Blacthe, Brooks, and Watson.

Bargs, IMO, could be a lot like Blatche has been for us.

He has been expected to be "the man" with his respective team, but he was never meant to shine in that role. He was always meant to be the 3rd or 4th scoring option on a team. I think he could fit in nicely with this team and put up something like 12/6 as a starter and force other team's PFs to play further from the basket. And occasionally he will go off for 25 points. Rebounding would be an issue, but with Hump gone and Lopez starting I think we would see Lopez go 20/8-9 a game.

And getting Hump over Bargs for Toronto would A. get them out of that contract a year sooner and free up more cap space B. be a change of scenario for the fans and the players.... guys like Derozan and Lowry would get more ppg.

Thoughts on Bargs?

[Keith Van Horn]

a bunch of Nets players became available for trade today.... when does Humphries become part of that pool? I'm checking the ESPN Trade Machine and his name is still grayed out.