2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[vincecarter4pres]

I'd take LMA simply because at the deadline there is suredly a mid-level playoff team who would give a useless expiring and a lotto protected '18 1st for him.

[Mkdaman1818]

I'd take LMA simply because at the deadline there is suredly a mid-level playoff team who would give a useless expiring and a lotto protected '18 1st for him.

To be fair I thought this about Lopez and that didn't do much for us...

[Prokorov]

I'd take LMA simply because at the deadline there is suredly a mid-level playoff team who would give a useless expiring and a lotto protected '18 1st for him.

i think thats the case... but i hate these kinds of moves especially in our situation. not sure its a great culture building move to bring in a JAG you intend to trade in 6 months, give him playing time over guys here longterm, for a future pick. sends a bad message. and if he gets hurt then what?

[steady]

CBS Sports did a ranking of the top 30 NBA players who were available this summer by FA, trade or draft - taking account of skill set, age and cost , among other things

Otto Porter was 17
Milsap. 10
Gallinari - 29

JJ Reddick - 24
DAngelo Russell - 13

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nbas-most-wanted-top-30-summer-targets-via-trade-free-agency-or-the-nba-draft/amp/

The reason I thought these rankings were interesting is that to me it's **** amazing and great that Net could potentially get two of the players projected to be in the top 30 desirable targets this offseason. That's remarkable given where Nets are in rebuild

I list the other names just to give context. I also like Gallinari as target for Nets. He has some injury issues, which training staff here might be able to help him with, but other than that at 6 10 great scoring forward. And I think Denvers going to let him go

I was also glad to see how high DLo still ranked despite his supposed issues

[TheNetsFan]

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To me this was expected. I also dont think it means either is safe on the roster. but Marks wasnt going to cheat guys out of any money. I think Skil/Harris could still potentially be waived/traded after camp

I don't think it's a matter of not cheating them out of money, rather than them being better than most minimum salaried options. I agree, neither is safe. If a capped out team wants to add shooting/scoring to the end of their bench, I could see getting second round picks for them, or they can be used as trade equity if we take on a salary dump.

[MrDollarBills]

new cap after options picked up... current cap stays the same, max cap is lowered

Yeah that covers all of the bases for that 5 mil. The man should be in jail for theft.

[94Nuggets]

new cap after options picked up... current cap stays the same, max cap is lowered

I LOL'd at Deron's new nickname.

[CalamityX12]

Andrew Nicholson is our 4th highest paid player...

LOL

[Vae Victus]

Interesting how Dimwiddie didnt get his option picked up.

Perhaps its a harbinger of JJ Reddick coming to town and Lin being sent to the bench.

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

But yea, i felt Dimwiddie played strong enough that at worst he'd be 3rd string injury emergency PG, kinda surprised he wasnt the 1st one activated.

Or perhaps the team is looking to try to trade SKil and Harris packaged somewhere for assets. I would imagine SKil can have some decent trade value just by lieu of minimum contract and ability to score.

[spaceballer]

Interesting how Dimwiddie didnt get his option picked up.

Perhaps its a harbinger of JJ Reddick coming to town and Lin being sent to the bench.

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

But yea, i felt Dimwiddie played strong enough that at worst he'd be 3rd string injury emergency PG, kinda surprised he wasnt the 1st one activated.

Or perhaps the team is looking to try to trade SKil and Harris packaged somewhere for assets. I would imagine SKil can have some decent trade value just by lieu of minimum contract and ability to score.

There is no option to pick up. Dinwiddie is signed to a multi-year partially guaranteed deal where increments of money become guaranteed at various dates if he isn't waived. I believe a portion of the new season's salary becomes guaranteed if he is not waived soon, another portion if he participates in summer league and off season coditioning, another further portion if he is still on the roster for the start of regular season, and so forth.

Basically a series of psuedo-options throughout the contract, where he can be cut without all of his salary becoming guaranteed. But not an explicit option that needs to be exercised right now.

July 2017 — Spencer Dinwiddie’s contract guarantees for $50,000 for 2017-18 if he participates in summer league and summer conditioning program.

10/31/17 — Spencer Dinwiddie’s salary guarantees at $250,000 for 2017-18.

1/10/18 — Spencer Dinwiddie’s $1,524,305 guarantees for 2017-18.

10/31/18 — Spencer Dinwiddie’s salary guarantees at $250,000 for 2018-19.

1/10/19 — Spencer Dinwiddie’s $1,656,092 guarantees for 2018-19.

[tonman]

Interesting. You guys think Lopez could be a starter/heavy minute guy on a top 2 defensive team in the league? I don't think Aldridge is that bad.

Wouldn't give up huge assets for him but getting a legit scorer at a position of need on a 2 year deal would let our guys settle into their natural roles instead of forcing them to do too much. Perfect for our timeline.

i think you could put lopez on the spurs in place of LMA and not much changes. they have too many quality players and they could sit lopez when they need stops. but to me thats irrelevant... its not what lopez would do on the spurs its what LMA would do here... which i think is not much and be disruptive an unhappy.

I also dont think that PF is a position of need and think RHJ needs more reps/big minutes there. and i dont want another low impact scorer... id rather see us balance the scoring among 4 or 5 guys then dump it to LMA for mid range jumpers and hook shots

PF is a position of need and RHJ is undersized.

[Mosdefinition]

new cap after options picked up... current cap stays the same, max cap is lowered

Yeah that covers all of the bases for that 5 mil. The man should be in jail for theft.

Andrew nicolson makes how much...

[Mkdaman1818]

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I want him

[LostInACrowd]

I think Kelly Olynyk will be the player that the Nets end up getting in the off season. He checks almost every box.

Age
Cost
Fills a need.
Fits the team.
Availability.

Reddick is too old and expensive playing a already crowded position.
Porter is going to be matched by the Wizards.

K.O. just turned 26 and can be had for around 3 year 30 mil with a team option on the third year. The Net's weakest position is the 5 with Mozgov, JA, Nicholson and Hamilton (last year, Nicholson and Hamilton shouldn't have been on the court with how they played and don't know if JA is ready for any minutes to begin the year).

He would be the only stretch 4/5 that the Nets have with a career 37% from 3, besides Acy. He can play either the 4 or 5, being paired up with either Mozgov or RHJ. And I think he would be great to pair up in the front court with JA if he improves quickly.

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[Netaman]

Olynyk would be a decent enough pickup as a plan B/C guy, I expect their plan A's will have a little more upside like Porter, Reddick, Galinnari, etc.

[Keith Van Horn]

Olynyk... only if he shaves his chin pubes.

Too bad Millsap won't be an option. A good shooting big with a veteran presence and past relationship with the head coach. He would be probably my second choice behind Porter. But sounds like Wiz are going to give Porter that max sheet on July 1.

[FlipFlopShot]

new cap after options picked up... current cap stays the same, max cap is lowered

$30 million. Just enough to sign one of these large contracts.

[Vae Victus]

IC so does Dimiwiddie have another team option a year later? Most likely he was forced to sign a Hinkie special 2+1 team option.

Olynyk as a Plan C option with a 3 year 30 mil 3rd team option isnt bad idea. He can fill a need and be a good backup PF or smallball 5 in future lineups. Anything more than 10 mil im a bit iffy on it. Again i reiterate, if he were so good why isnt BOS making moves to keep him over Bradely, Crowder, or Smart. Theyre starved for size and yet are willing to let Olynk go first instead of one of their current wings, while chasing Hayward and PG13.

Plan B is someone like Meyers Leonard + 1st Round for JHam

Plan A is the pie in the sky Blake Griffin, Paul Milsap or even Lamarcus Aldridge for Nicolson + expirings type of deal.

[Claud]

Somehow we need to get a 2018 pick without giving up our young core.

[Curns13]

Somehow we need to get a 2018 pick without giving up our young core.

I think that'll be Booker and Skill to a contender at the deadline.