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HarthorneWingo wrote:I'm hearing Kyrie wants to visit the planet Xenon in May. For real. He said it's shaped like rhombus.
To bad it's during the playoffs. We'll trade you Elfrid Payton for Claxton.
DarkXaero wrote:This constant whinefest about Nash from prokorov is getting annoying af. There are ways to criticize without entering hyperbole territory every time. Unfortunately, subtlety and being rational doesn't exist in prokorov's world.
MGrand15 wrote:DarkXaero wrote:This constant whinefest about Nash from prokorov is getting annoying af. There are ways to criticize without entering hyperbole territory every time. Unfortunately, subtlety and being rational doesn't exist in prokorov's world.
It's funny considering it was the exact opposite with Kenny. Never acknowledged end of game errors, bad rotations, called him an elite coach every day
My thing with Nash is he literally has 3 head coaches on the bench with him + a team full of vets. If he was missing something obvious, clearly someone would let him know. He's a collaborative guy and all the players acknowledge it. Any talk of horrible coaching just makes no sense. Some mistakes are made for sure - but we need to be reasonable at least.
HarthorneWingo wrote:therealbig3 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
I'm heard that Kyrie and KD wanted to play for the Knicks about two summers ago. For real.
DAMN. Why'd you have to do em like that???
You'd be nothing without Harden.
!!!!!!!!!!!! ecuhus1981 wrote:MGrand15 wrote:DarkXaero wrote:This constant whinefest about Nash from prokorov is getting annoying af. There are ways to criticize without entering hyperbole territory every time. Unfortunately, subtlety and being rational doesn't exist in prokorov's world.
It's funny considering it was the exact opposite with Kenny. Never acknowledged end of game errors, bad rotations, called him an elite coach every day
My thing with Nash is he literally has 3 head coaches on the bench with him + a team full of vets. If he was missing something obvious, clearly someone would let him know. He's a collaborative guy and all the players acknowledge it. Any talk of horrible coaching just makes no sense. Some mistakes are made for sure - but we need to be reasonable at least.
I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion, and I'll tell you why.
It seems you are making a "you would assume" fallacy in logic. Having the most decorated and experienced stable of assistant coaches in league history SHOULD mean that we never miss the details. But think about it: does anyone ever demonstrably question or even advise Nash on the sideline? I haven't seen it. Udoka, Vaughn, and especially D'Antoni know how to make better in-game adjustments than we've seen. They are not, because someone has instructed them not to do so.
No one wants another Frank-Kidd circus, where the assistant is visibly upstaging and sowing dissension. But it is clear to me that Steve would do well to open the door to more live feedback. Use the tools available to you!
MrDollarBills wrote:Philly had to fight tooth and nail last night to beat the Knicks. So for yall on here acting like we should have blown them out by 30 points, wake up. The Knicks are not a bad team. They have awful fans, yes, but Randle is a machine and they have guys who play hard and are aggressive defensively. Our close victory against them was no shame, a win is a win.
MrDollarBills wrote:Philly had to fight tooth and nail last night to beat the Knicks. So for yall on here acting like we should have blown them out by 30 points, wake up. The Knicks are not a bad team. They have awful fans, yes, but Randle is a machine and they have guys who play hard and are aggressive defensively. Our close victory against them was no shame, a win is a win.
HardenGoat wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Philly had to fight tooth and nail last night to beat the Knicks. So for yall on here acting like we should have blown them out by 30 points, wake up. The Knicks are not a bad team. They have awful fans, yes, but Randle is a machine and they have guys who play hard and are aggressive defensively. Our close victory against them was no shame, a win is a win.
Yeah Knicks lost cause they were on a back to back. Randle finally got tired. 76ers played all out knowing they were playing Bucks today. We have a good shot at the lead after tonight but I don’t want to jinx us.
.Prokorov wrote:GTR11 wrote:He's unplayable period. Maybe come PO time he'll give us 15-20 productive min, during regular season he's clearly not doing it. Harden can't get in his face all the time, Nash need to figure something out.
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And look at the difference with Nic
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Jordan is extremely playable and a big positive on the year. he isnt a 30+ mpg player. he was great for 20 minutes. Nash forgot claxton was on the team in the 4th i guess?
This is also an awful comparison. nic on a small who took a ton of threes and was hitting them... your gonna challenge that. Jordan on a big up 7 with 1 minute to play when your only job is not to foul.
ecuhus1981 wrote:MGrand15 wrote:DarkXaero wrote:This constant whinefest about Nash from prokorov is getting annoying af. There are ways to criticize without entering hyperbole territory every time. Unfortunately, subtlety and being rational doesn't exist in prokorov's world.
It's funny considering it was the exact opposite with Kenny. Never acknowledged end of game errors, bad rotations, called him an elite coach every day
My thing with Nash is he literally has 3 head coaches on the bench with him + a team full of vets. If he was missing something obvious, clearly someone would let him know. He's a collaborative guy and all the players acknowledge it. Any talk of horrible coaching just makes no sense. Some mistakes are made for sure - but we need to be reasonable at least.
I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion, and I'll tell you why.
It seems you are making a "you would assume" fallacy in logic. Having the most decorated and experienced stable of assistant coaches in league history SHOULD mean that we never miss the details. But think about it: does anyone ever demonstrably question or even advise Nash on the sideline? I haven't seen it. Udoka, Vaughn, and especially D'Antoni know how to make better in-game adjustments than we've seen. They are not, because someone has instructed them not to do so.
No one wants another Frank-Kidd circus, where the assistant is visibly upstaging and sowing dissension. But it is clear to me that Steve would do well to open the door to more live feedback. Use the tools available to you!
MrDollarBills wrote:This is pretty much conjecture. You don't know what the dynamic is between Nash and the assistants.
Also, excuse me if I'm wrong but has Udoka ever been a head coach? How do you know what adjustments he would make?
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Turns out the call was correct
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shlomosprung/2021/03/16/julius-randle-travel-call-confirmed-by-nba-officials-as-correct-after-new-york-knicks-loss-to-brooklyn-nets/?sh=139f23c13945
All those idiot Knick fans were crying for nothing. How the **** is it not a travel?
They don't even understand the rules.
MrDollarBills wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Turns out the call was correct
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shlomosprung/2021/03/16/julius-randle-travel-call-confirmed-by-nba-officials-as-correct-after-new-york-knicks-loss-to-brooklyn-nets/?sh=139f23c13945
All those idiot Knick fans were crying for nothing. How the **** is it not a travel?
They don't even understand the rules.
I don't know how ANYONE with an above casual knowledge of the sport could watch that play and not see that it was a travel. Had he let go off the ball after Kyrie slapped it and came down he would have had an argument but he clearly had possession.
On the blacktop we would call that an "up and down". You can't just jump in the air, maintain possession and come down with it without shooting or passing. This is 5th grade level stuff.
sashaturiaf wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Turns out the call was correct
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shlomosprung/2021/03/16/julius-randle-travel-call-confirmed-by-nba-officials-as-correct-after-new-york-knicks-loss-to-brooklyn-nets/?sh=139f23c13945
All those idiot Knick fans were crying for nothing. How the **** is it not a travel?
They don't even understand the rules.
I don't know how ANYONE with an above casual knowledge of the sport could watch that play and not see that it was a travel. Had he let go off the ball after Kyrie slapped it and came down he would have had an argument but he clearly had possession.
On the blacktop we would call that an "up and down". You can't just jump in the air, maintain possession and come down with it without shooting or passing. This is 5th grade level stuff.
Absolutely. If the rule worked like Knicks fans thought it did, Harden can take an infinite number of steps without dribbling just by grazing the ball against his defenders arms
ecuhus1981 wrote:MGrand15 wrote:DarkXaero wrote:This constant whinefest about Nash from prokorov is getting annoying af. There are ways to criticize without entering hyperbole territory every time. Unfortunately, subtlety and being rational doesn't exist in prokorov's world.
It's funny considering it was the exact opposite with Kenny. Never acknowledged end of game errors, bad rotations, called him an elite coach every day
My thing with Nash is he literally has 3 head coaches on the bench with him + a team full of vets. If he was missing something obvious, clearly someone would let him know. He's a collaborative guy and all the players acknowledge it. Any talk of horrible coaching just makes no sense. Some mistakes are made for sure - but we need to be reasonable at least.
I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion, and I'll tell you why.
It seems you are making a "you would assume" fallacy in logic. Having the most decorated and experienced stable of assistant coaches in league history SHOULD mean that we never miss the details. But think about it: does anyone ever demonstrably question or even advise Nash on the sideline? I haven't seen it. Udoka, Vaughn, and especially D'Antoni know how to make better in-game adjustments than we've seen. They are not, because someone has instructed them not to do so.
No one wants another Frank-Kidd circus, where the assistant is visibly upstaging and sowing dissension. But it is clear to me that Steve would do well to open the door to more live feedback. Use the tools available to you!
HarthorneWingo wrote:therealbig3 wrote:
DAMN. Why'd you have to do em like that???
You'd be nothing without Harden.
MrDollarBills wrote:Philly had to fight tooth and nail last night to beat the Knicks. So for yall on here acting like we should have blown them out by 30 points, wake up. The Knicks are not a bad team. They have awful fans, yes, but Randle is a machine and they have guys who play hard and are aggressive defensively. Our close victory against them was no shame, a win is a win.
Listen to what Joe Harris had to say about Steve Nash on Woj's podcast recently. Joe Harris specifically pointed out that Nash has no ego as a head coach and isn't afraid to delegate more technical aspects of the job to his assistants. I would take what Joe Harris had to say over your observations watching the game. Prokorov is dead wrong on how the Nets players view Nash as well. Kyrie took back his words about Nets not really having a head coach, after playing games under Nash. KD has went out of his way to praise Nash. Joe Harris was raving about Nash on the Woj podcast. All the evidence suggests that the players love him, so I think it's fair to stop with the nonsense about players not respecting a HoFer who has been an excellent leader in the locker room by all accounts.ecuhus1981 wrote:MGrand15 wrote:DarkXaero wrote:This constant whinefest about Nash from prokorov is getting annoying af. There are ways to criticize without entering hyperbole territory every time. Unfortunately, subtlety and being rational doesn't exist in prokorov's world.
It's funny considering it was the exact opposite with Kenny. Never acknowledged end of game errors, bad rotations, called him an elite coach every day
My thing with Nash is he literally has 3 head coaches on the bench with him + a team full of vets. If he was missing something obvious, clearly someone would let him know. He's a collaborative guy and all the players acknowledge it. Any talk of horrible coaching just makes no sense. Some mistakes are made for sure - but we need to be reasonable at least.
I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion, and I'll tell you why.
It seems you are making a "you would assume" fallacy in logic. Having the most decorated and experienced stable of assistant coaches in league history SHOULD mean that we never miss the details. But think about it: does anyone ever demonstrably question or even advise Nash on the sideline? I haven't seen it. Udoka, Vaughn, and especially D'Antoni know how to make better in-game adjustments than we've seen. They are not, because someone has instructed them not to do so.
No one wants another Frank-Kidd circus, where the assistant is visibly upstaging and sowing dissension. But it is clear to me that Steve would do well to open the door to more live feedback. Use the tools available to you!