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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#281 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 8, 2022 2:59 pm

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The rumors about Horford and Brown are just that, rumors. They’ve both implied that they are good to go against anyone recently. If anything this injury report confirms that they are likely good to go if they play Toronto. Dunno who started these rumors the last couple weeks, but it is what it is.


Its confirmed both are not fully vaccinated and currently ineligible in toronto.

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Horford said he would get vaccinated for the playoffs if he needs to. no such reports on brown. 0 chance he gets vaxxed. he is built from the same cloth as kyrie.

I'm a bit surprised at just how terrified Boston is of the Nets... i mean i get it, they know they cant beat us and probably want to avoid being called out as racists again but going into toronto with no Brown/Horford? Thats tough.


I think we have different opinions on what ‘confirmed’ means. It literally says rumor in caps, and he says ‘my understanding’. Horford has also never said he would get vaccinated if they play Toronto. He has said, he can play against anyone right now.

Prok, as usual, always twisting things around.


That tweet hasn't confirmed it, its just the media story that is out there. I know for a fact both are not vaccinated. It is also why they didn't travel to Toronto.

Typically guys out sick or with a rest/minor injury travel with the team. they didnt. typically teams will definitively say guys are vaccinated, celtics have continued to decline. but i know from someone who has 1st hand knowledge neither are vaccinated.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#282 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 8, 2022 3:01 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Who the **** would even guard Giannis? Last year it was Griffin who Nash won't play.

Hes no longer a FT liability which saved us so many times.


You dont play Giannis 1 on 1. You use your big to impede him and give him space. Defending Giannis is really about avoiding turnovers and not allowing him to get out in transition. Drummond did a fantastic job on him the last 2 games and Nick seems more physical this year how he played embiid/giannis recently.

The guy we need to worry about is middleton. if he plays well, we lose. Gianns will get 40/10. live with it. dont let their shooters go off and dont let middleton get hot. Kyrie has played middleton well.


I would rather send a double team to force the ball out of Middleton's hands as opposed to even devote more than one person to Giannis.

I have said this repeatedly: I would let Giannis score sixty and keep defenders glues to Middleton, Holiday and Lopez. Same strategy with Embiid. Let these guys gas themselves out scoring on contested twos. They aren't hurting you any other way. I would absolute let Drummond defend him and stick KD on Brook.


Yes, ive always said this as well.

Giannis Embiid will score 35 in every playoff game. Those are 30 ppg players who are now playing an extra 6-8 minutes a game.

if they score 40-45 thats just an extra 5-10 points. but you start doubling off them and you give up an extra 10-20 points on open threes.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#283 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 8, 2022 3:08 pm

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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#284 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 8, 2022 3:15 pm

A loss tonight and we are the 9 seed or worst:

Heat clinched the 1, they likely sit everyone and gift the Hawks a win. Which puts even more pressure on us to be the Cavs tonight. The Hawks finish up with the rockets, which basically ensures they go 2-0 the rest of the way:

Hawks 44-38 (unless something crazy happens)

If we lose to cleveland they finish at worst 44-38.

We would be at best 43-39

Must win tonight.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#285 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 3:30 pm

does winning tonight clinch a 7/8 spot though?
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#286 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 8, 2022 3:32 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:does winning tonight clinch a 7/8 spot though?


not unless atlanta loses. although it would allow us to lose to the pacers and still potentially be 8, which helps
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#287 » by GTR11 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 3:51 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:does winning tonight clinch a 7/8 spot though?


not unless atlanta loses. although it would allow us to lose to the pacers and still potentially be 8, which helps

We holding tie breaker over ATL. Win tonight gives us tie breaker over Cavs.

We going to be 7th seed with a win.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#288 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 4:20 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:does winning tonight clinch a 7/8 spot though?


not unless atlanta loses. although it would allow us to lose to the pacers and still potentially be 8, which helps

We holding tie breaker over ATL. Win tonight gives us tie breaker over Cavs.

We going to be 7th seed with a win.

But if we go 1-1 and ATL goes 2-0, Atl will be 7th seed and we be 8th seed correct? obviously play in will change that dynamic with a BKN win.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#289 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 8, 2022 4:47 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:does winning tonight clinch a 7/8 spot though?


not unless atlanta loses. although it would allow us to lose to the pacers and still potentially be 8, which helps

We holding tie breaker over ATL. Win tonight gives us tie breaker over Cavs.

We going to be 7th seed with a win.


if we beat cleveland, and lose to the pacers we could be the 9/10 seed still.

Atlanta going 2-0 would be above us by 1 game. hornets 2-0 would tie them with us and they own the tiebreaker.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#290 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 8, 2022 4:53 pm

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not unless atlanta loses. although it would allow us to lose to the pacers and still potentially be 8, which helps

We holding tie breaker over ATL. Win tonight gives us tie breaker over Cavs.

We going to be 7th seed with a win.

But if we go 1-1 and ATL goes 2-0, Atl will be 7th seed and we be 8th seed correct? obviously play in will change that dynamic with a BKN win.


correct, and atlanta is a lock to go 2-0.

they will get the heats g-league roster (heat clinched 1 seed already) and the tanking rockets
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#291 » by GTR11 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 4:57 pm

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not unless atlanta loses. although it would allow us to lose to the pacers and still potentially be 8, which helps

We holding tie breaker over ATL. Win tonight gives us tie breaker over Cavs.

We going to be 7th seed with a win.

But if we go 1-1 and ATL goes 2-0, Atl will be 7th seed and we be 8th seed correct? obviously play in will change that dynamic with a BKN win.

Really depends on how charlotte finishes. They hold tie breaker over us. If we go 1-1 and both ATL and Charlotte go 2-0 we end up 9 seed.

We have to win out basically. Mobley will be back next week. One game vs Cavs in play in can go either way. Than we'll have to meet loser of ATL/Charlotte on the road.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#292 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 5:54 pm

Really wanted to sit/rest KD vs Indy on Sunday
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#293 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Apr 8, 2022 6:03 pm

GTR11 wrote:
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GTR11 wrote:We holding tie breaker over ATL. Win tonight gives us tie breaker over Cavs.

We going to be 7th seed with a win.

But if we go 1-1 and ATL goes 2-0, Atl will be 7th seed and we be 8th seed correct? obviously play in will change that dynamic with a BKN win.

Really depends on how charlotte finishes. They hold tie breaker over us. If we go 1-1 and both ATL and Charlotte go 2-0 we end up 9 seed.

We have to win out basically. Mobley will be back next week. One game vs Cavs in play in can go either way. Than we'll have to meet loser of ATL/Charlotte on the road.

I believe we lose any 3 way tie that includes Charlotte, but win a 4 way tie.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#294 » by GTR11 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 6:43 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:But if we go 1-1 and ATL goes 2-0, Atl will be 7th seed and we be 8th seed correct? obviously play in will change that dynamic with a BKN win.

Really depends on how charlotte finishes. They hold tie breaker over us. If we go 1-1 and both ATL and Charlotte go 2-0 we end up 9 seed.

We have to win out basically. Mobley will be back next week. One game vs Cavs in play in can go either way. Than we'll have to meet loser of ATL/Charlotte on the road.

I believe we lose any 3 way tie that includes Charlotte, but win a 4 way tie.

In 3 way tie due to division and conference record we will hold tie breaker over ATL/CHA.

Saltics will hold tie breakers if Philthy and Bucks end up with the same record. Also Saltics hold tie breaker over Bucks, meaning if they end up with same record they'll get 2nd seed.

Bucks playing 2nd nigh of b2b, than @Cavs with Mobley back. Nothing is set in stone yet.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#295 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Apr 8, 2022 7:06 pm

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GTR11 wrote:Really depends on how charlotte finishes. They hold tie breaker over us. If we go 1-1 and both ATL and Charlotte go 2-0 we end up 9 seed.

We have to win out basically. Mobley will be back next week. One game vs Cavs in play in can go either way. Than we'll have to meet loser of ATL/Charlotte on the road.

I believe we lose any 3 way tie that includes Charlotte, but win a 4 way tie.

In 3 way tie due to division and conference record we will hold tie breaker over ATL/CHA.

Saltics will hold tie breakers if Philthy and Bucks end up with the same record. Also Saltics hold tie breaker over Bucks, meaning if they end up with same record they'll get 2nd seed.

Bucks playing 2nd nigh of b2b, than @Cavs with Mobley back. Nothing is set in stone yet.

Division record does not factor in when it comes to ties that include teams in different divisions.

Head to head amongst the tied teams comes before Conference record. Charlotte would be 4-3, We're 3-3 & Atlanta is 3-4, so a 3 way tie would break in that order.

Boston would win a tiebreaker against Milwaukee, but I think it's unlikely that Milwaukee loses 1 and Boston wins @Memphis. Boston would also hold the tiebreaker over Philly, so for them to flip, Philly needs to win out (back to back at home vs Indy & Detroit) & Boston would need to lose @Memphis. It's more realistic for Philly to sneak up to #3 than Boston to get back to #2.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#296 » by GTR11 » Fri Apr 8, 2022 7:53 pm

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TheNetsFan wrote:I believe we lose any 3 way tie that includes Charlotte, but win a 4 way tie.

In 3 way tie due to division and conference record we will hold tie breaker over ATL/CHA.

Saltics will hold tie breakers if Philthy and Bucks end up with the same record. Also Saltics hold tie breaker over Bucks, meaning if they end up with same record they'll get 2nd seed.

Bucks playing 2nd nigh of b2b, than @Cavs with Mobley back. Nothing is set in stone yet.

Division record does not factor in when it comes to ties that include teams in different divisions.

Head to head amongst the tied teams comes before Conference record. Charlotte would be 4-3, We're 3-3 & Atlanta is 3-4, so a 3 way tie would break in that order.

Boston would win a tiebreaker against Milwaukee, but I think it's unlikely that Milwaukee loses 1 and Boston wins @Memphis. Boston would also hold the tiebreaker over Philly, so for them to flip, Philly needs to win out (back to back at home vs Indy & Detroit) & Boston would need to lose @Memphis. It's more realistic for Philly to sneak up to #3 than Boston to get back to #2.


Three-Team Tiebreaker:
1. Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
2. Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied
3. Highest winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Highest winning percentage in conference games
5. Highest winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
6. Highest point differential between points scored and points allowed


We hold tie breakers when all things compared. So if ATL/BK/Cha all tied up we be higher seeded.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#297 » by Prokorov » Fri Apr 8, 2022 8:49 pm

GTR11 wrote:
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GTR11 wrote:In 3 way tie due to division and conference record we will hold tie breaker over ATL/CHA.

Saltics will hold tie breakers if Philthy and Bucks end up with the same record. Also Saltics hold tie breaker over Bucks, meaning if they end up with same record they'll get 2nd seed.

Bucks playing 2nd nigh of b2b, than @Cavs with Mobley back. Nothing is set in stone yet.

Division record does not factor in when it comes to ties that include teams in different divisions.

Head to head amongst the tied teams comes before Conference record. Charlotte would be 4-3, We're 3-3 & Atlanta is 3-4, so a 3 way tie would break in that order.

Boston would win a tiebreaker against Milwaukee, but I think it's unlikely that Milwaukee loses 1 and Boston wins @Memphis. Boston would also hold the tiebreaker over Philly, so for them to flip, Philly needs to win out (back to back at home vs Indy & Detroit) & Boston would need to lose @Memphis. It's more realistic for Philly to sneak up to #3 than Boston to get back to #2.


Three-Team Tiebreaker:
1. Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
2. Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied
3. Highest winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Highest winning percentage in conference games
5. Highest winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
6. Highest point differential between points scored and points allowed


We hold tie breakers when all things compared. So if ATL/BK/Cha all tied up we be higher seeded.


I think you misinterpret #1

it isnt "best division record" its if you won the division or not. a division winner would have the tiebreaker over non-division winners. none of the teams in the play-in race won their divisions. so it starts with #2 for our scenario.

#3 states what TheNetsFan is saying... that division record doesnt apply since nets/haws/hornets are not all in the same division
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#298 » by Homerclease » Fri Apr 8, 2022 11:25 pm

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Its confirmed both are not fully vaccinated and currently ineligible in toronto.

Read on Twitter


Horford said he would get vaccinated for the playoffs if he needs to. no such reports on brown. 0 chance he gets vaxxed. he is built from the same cloth as kyrie.

I'm a bit surprised at just how terrified Boston is of the Nets... i mean i get it, they know they cant beat us and probably want to avoid being called out as racists again but going into toronto with no Brown/Horford? Thats tough.


I think we have different opinions on what ‘confirmed’ means. It literally says rumor in caps, and he says ‘my understanding’. Horford has also never said he would get vaccinated if they play Toronto. He has said, he can play against anyone right now.

Prok, as usual, always twisting things around.


That tweet hasn't confirmed it, its just the media story that is out there. I know for a fact both are not vaccinated. It is also why they didn't travel to Toronto.

Typically guys out sick or with a rest/minor injury travel with the team. they didnt. typically teams will definitively say guys are vaccinated, celtics have continued to decline. but i know from someone who has 1st hand knowledge neither are vaccinated.

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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#299 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Fri Apr 8, 2022 11:28 pm

1st hand knowledge!!! LOL
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#300 » by TheNetsFan » Sat Apr 9, 2022 12:15 am

GTR11 wrote:
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GTR11 wrote:In 3 way tie due to division and conference record we will hold tie breaker over ATL/CHA.

Saltics will hold tie breakers if Philthy and Bucks end up with the same record. Also Saltics hold tie breaker over Bucks, meaning if they end up with same record they'll get 2nd seed.

Bucks playing 2nd nigh of b2b, than @Cavs with Mobley back. Nothing is set in stone yet.

Division record does not factor in when it comes to ties that include teams in different divisions.

Head to head amongst the tied teams comes before Conference record. Charlotte would be 4-3, We're 3-3 & Atlanta is 3-4, so a 3 way tie would break in that order.

Boston would win a tiebreaker against Milwaukee, but I think it's unlikely that Milwaukee loses 1 and Boston wins @Memphis. Boston would also hold the tiebreaker over Philly, so for them to flip, Philly needs to win out (back to back at home vs Indy & Detroit) & Boston would need to lose @Memphis. It's more realistic for Philly to sneak up to #3 than Boston to get back to #2.


Three-Team Tiebreaker:
1. Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
2. Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied
3. Highest winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Highest winning percentage in conference games
5. Highest winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
6. Highest point differential between points scored and points allowed


We hold tie breakers when all things compared. So if ATL/BK/Cha all tied up we be higher seeded.

Straight from NBA.com:

TIEBREAKER BASIS FOR MULTI-WAY TIES:

(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(3) Division won-lost percentage for teams in the same division
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(6) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(7) Net Points, all games

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