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Post#301 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue Jan 9, 2018 3:58 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I would love for everyone to see Spencer Dinwiddie's post game comments about this game (Raptors 1/8/18). Spencer is a leader on this team, and I appreciate his efforts and his boldness to speak truth to power.

This man isn't stupid, he knows that he's being jobbed as well as his teammates.


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Post#302 » by LKIRNets » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:01 am

CalamityX12 wrote:I like him. I may come off as I don't cause I dislike him continuous trying to win games by himself when he's not at that level. He's batting an Ofer....maybe 1 or 2 actually but more misses than not

he's the hot guy who always gets fouled and no call. Idk what else he can do. Defer to Rondae? put more pressure on Joe Harris? Crabbe was out most of that OT and we don't have the ability to leave Jarrett Allen out there to space the floor.

It's really frustrating.
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Post#303 » by Paradise » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:01 am

There was a moment he went for free throws after Lowry fouled him shooting a 3 and the ref stopped him soon as he shot it and then decided to converse with the other officials.

Spence was so annoyed and he missed the first of three.

These guys need to be addressed for bias officiating based off reputation. He can’t let it hurt his confidence in shot selection, though.


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Post#304 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:01 am

CalamityX12 wrote:I like him. I may come off as I don't cause I dislike him continuous trying to win games by himself when he's not at that level. He's batting an Ofer....maybe 1 or 2 actually but more misses than not


how is he supposed to be better in those situations if we dont keep giving it to them in those spots?

you cant manufactor or simulate a 1 possesion end of game shot. you can only do that when it happens in real games.

wins dont matter, so if he comes up short, its still worth giving him the rock. eventually, he will get better, learn, etc... a few weeks ago he probably pulls up from 30 feet. at least he is trying to get to the cup now.

and ofer? did you not see the shot vs the wolves?
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Post#305 » by TinmanZBoy » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:02 am

bws94 wrote:Dinwiddie, post game against Toronto, is just saying make or miss league. Has to go in the weight room and do better.

Dinwiddie is quite frustrated. I'm glad to see that. No, I scored 31, I'm happy. It's an L, he's pissed. Great.



Din used to hesitate with shots, this is the Dinwiddie you want to see because he has size, athleticism to drive... and he is a decent shooter ... make or miss, you live with it.... he really comes a long way...
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Post#306 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:03 am

Idk man, it's hard not to love this dude. He's cocky, but not like a-hole self-centered cocky. It's that cocky that's like a hair above just being supremely confident. The kind of swagger you need to take that next step to the next level without being a douche who overestimates his own abilities and place in the bigger picture of the team. He's an intelligent dude and with how frustrated he obviously is and should be right now, it was actually a very restrained interview emotionally. He got his point across without throwing any teammates under the bus and took ownership through the obvious and needed sarcasm and trashing of the refs. This dude gets it. At least that's how he comes across. Humble yet hungry. Confident yet only properly and slightly cocky. Not entitled, yet still demands the respect he is earning. I like it man. All the comparisons to George Hill and the more you see his progression, the more I see ironically a lot of taller Lowry, or maybe some Conley. They should make it a priority to not only retain this dude, but to make sure he is properly integrated with D-Lo and LeVert.
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Post#308 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:05 am

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CalamityX12 wrote:I like him. I may come off as I don't cause I dislike him continuous trying to win games by himself when he's not at that level. He's batting an Ofer....maybe 1 or 2 actually but more misses than not


how is he supposed to be better in those situations if we dont keep giving it to them in those spots?

you cant manufactor or simulate a 1 possesion end of game shot. you can only do that when it happens in real games.

wins dont matter, so if he comes up short, its still worth giving him the rock. eventually, he will get better, learn, etc... a few weeks ago he probably pulls up from 30 feet. at least he is trying to get to the cup now.

and ofer? did you not see the shot vs the wolves?


Are we developing the Brooklyn Nets or the Spencer Dinwiddies?

Is Caris Lever not to get his chance?

If he is, when is it his turn? 2018-19?

It's been Spencer and his call all the time... he's lost it more than won it. When do other guy get their shots?
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Post#309 » by bws94 » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:06 am

I think it's Din's shot to take. He made huge buckets late in the 4th and in OT. I get the point about maybe he's hero-balling some, but he's the best guy right now on the team to have the ball in his hands. He's more ball-secure than LeVert, who is also very good. He's the closer right now.
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Post#310 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:26 am

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CalamityX12 wrote:I like him. I may come off as I don't cause I dislike him continuous trying to win games by himself when he's not at that level. He's batting an Ofer....maybe 1 or 2 actually but more misses than not


how is he supposed to be better in those situations if we dont keep giving it to them in those spots?

you cant manufactor or simulate a 1 possesion end of game shot. you can only do that when it happens in real games.

wins dont matter, so if he comes up short, its still worth giving him the rock. eventually, he will get better, learn, etc... a few weeks ago he probably pulls up from 30 feet. at least he is trying to get to the cup now.

and ofer? did you not see the shot vs the wolves?


Are we developing the Brooklyn Nets or the Spencer Dinwiddies?

Is Caris Lever not to get his chance?

If he is, when is it his turn? 2018-19?

It's been Spencer and his call all the time... he's lost it more than won it. When do other guy get their shots?

Idk Calamity, I really love what Dinwiddie has been doing and the freedom the staff has given him. These haven't been empty numbers and reckless actions and play calls which take the rest of the team out of it. I think they've been teaching moments, developmental minutes and sets, where the end will be a result of the means. There are times when the offense stops flowing while he dominates the ball, but we're down a lot of people and the truth is, he's the point guard. Even in a motion, ball movement based system, with multiple ball handlers, there's still going to be a point guard and 2 of 3 guys on the floor at a time whose responsibility and role it is to control the ball mainly up top in pick and rolls, drive and dish, etc., in order to initiate the offense and all the around the horn swings, slip screens, cuts, spots ups, etc. It doesn't mean he's going to have a career of 30% usage rate or anything. It's just dealing with who you have available, whose the most qualified and also teaching, developing and executing over and over, while simultaneously attempting to win.
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Post#311 » by Paradise » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:32 am

New career high for the Mayor. His first 30 point game!




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Post#312 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:35 am

wow.

i'm off. i can't. you can sit here and **** on a dude who has stepped into the starting PG role on this team and who has hit huge shots on this team and is rightfully calling out bad officiating. go for it.
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Post#313 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:37 am

Paradise wrote:New career high for the Mayor. His first 30 point game!




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Post#314 » by LOUiS-D » Tue Jan 9, 2018 10:26 am

I know I posted in the celtics game thread about him overworking the refs. I take that back. Not because I think he's especially unfairly done by (a bit to be fair). It's a mix of both. Some of the calls I agree are correct no calls like the shot against Semi where I contend he was vertical. Some I strongly disagree with like the two OT fouls by Ibaka on Din's drives.

The reason I give Din all the credit that's owed to him is he's a flat out baller. He consistently generates good game winning attempts. That's a rare thing. It's not something you just pull out of a hat and the next guy up can replace that. He has ice water in his veins. He is Mr. Composure. And he's come out of nowhere. It's mind blowing the found gold.

I f***'n love this guy. Smart dude too. Articulate, mature. GIVES A F***. What more can you ask from him?
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Post#315 » by SpeedyG » Tue Jan 9, 2018 1:36 pm

The NBA is tough for young guys especially for no name guys. Unless they come with the hype of Lebron, they usually don't get the calls especially late in games.

Another young guy that played for the Nets also went through the same thing. And what you have to do is keep attacking and attacking. You don't even look to finish. You hit that paint expecting contact and hit it like a battering ram.

That's what pierce did. That's what wade did. That's what Harden did.

And that's what Richard Jefferson learned to do.

So to hear Din talking about hitting the weight room, THAT is what you want him to say and do.

Take the contact and force them to make the calls. Once you build the reputation, then start thinking about the And1
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Post#317 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 9, 2018 2:15 pm

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Dinwiddie just went up about 10 notches on my favorite net of alltime leaderboard.

may have just suprassed harris as my current favorite net.

did kenny say anything? im assuming his teammates have/will back him up
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Post#318 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 9, 2018 2:19 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:I like him. I may come off as I don't cause I dislike him continuous trying to win games by himself when he's not at that level. He's batting an Ofer....maybe 1 or 2 actually but more misses than not


how is he supposed to be better in those situations if we dont keep giving it to them in those spots?

you cant manufactor or simulate a 1 possesion end of game shot. you can only do that when it happens in real games.

wins dont matter, so if he comes up short, its still worth giving him the rock. eventually, he will get better, learn, etc... a few weeks ago he probably pulls up from 30 feet. at least he is trying to get to the cup now.

and ofer? did you not see the shot vs the wolves?


Are we developing the Brooklyn Nets or the Spencer Dinwiddies?

Is Caris Lever not to get his chance?

If he is, when is it his turn? 2018-19?

It's been Spencer and his call all the time... he's lost it more than won it. When do other guy get their shots?


Levert has taken some close and late shots... and early on he didnt close games.

Spencer has kind of earned that shot... he is the most reliable with the ball in his hands... he has by far the best assist to turnover ratio and while he has missed a few he is probably our best "tough shot" maker as far as being contested or deep.

levert will get his at some point... plus dinwiddie was on fire and led us to that point
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Post#320 » by MGrand15 » Tue Jan 9, 2018 4:33 pm

Spencer's explanation on why wins are important was amazing. It's why I don't buy the nonsense that wins don't matter at all just because we're young or in rebuilding mode.

On overcoming tough losses and what they mean to the team:
“It’s going to take a lot of maturity because the hardest part about this is that we have so many guys that are on the brink of being in the NBA or getting another contract, and these close losses when they stack up – two, three, four, five in a row – they change the tenure of the season because it completely shifts the narrative of how Nets basketball is played.

“If these close losses turn into wins, we’re close to .500 ball. We’re looking at the playoffs. There’s a different morale, different vibe. Instead of always coming in here feeling a certain way about whatever happened on the court. It’s hard because everybody in here is trying to put food on the table for their families and provide. A couple wins here and there really affect the tenure of a season for a young ball club that’s fighting.

“So, I’d say these close losses in a row that really hurt… they really hurt.”

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