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Post#301 » by bullsaficianado » Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:47 am

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bullsaficianado wrote:All this drama over a covid-19 shot. This is ridiculous. It's just a vaccine and just like the flu shot it doesn't guarantee you won't get the flu or covid-19. he should know vaccines just lighten the load if you get sick.

Man up and get the shot Kyrie.


it is his body and his choice. He is aware of the limitations/consequences as so far accepts those. people call him selfish. but really what is selfish is demanding what someone else puts in their body so that a basketball team can play better.

is it dumb? yeah. but its the old "i dont agree with you, but ill fight to death that you have the right to say it"


I agree 100% that people have a right to choose or not what they want to put into their body including this vaccine. However the selfish argument can also go both ways to your selfish if you don't get the shot because it does help protect others if you come down with covid-19.

I don't think it's worth throwing a basketball career away over though.

It's going to be like this for years to come. man up Kyrie, get the shot. do it for your team, they need you.
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Post#302 » by Suwanee » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:54 pm

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bullsaficianado wrote:All this drama over a covid-19 shot. This is ridiculous. It's just a vaccine and just like the flu shot it doesn't guarantee you won't get the flu or covid-19. he should know vaccines just lighten the load if you get sick.

Man up and get the shot Kyrie.


it is his body and his choice. He is aware of the limitations/consequences as so far accepts those. people call him selfish. but really what is selfish is demanding what someone else puts in their body so that a basketball team can play better.

is it dumb? yeah. but its the old "i dont agree with you, but ill fight to death that you have the right to say it"


I agree 100% that people have a right to choose or not what they want to put into their body including this vaccine. However the selfish argument can also go both ways to your selfish if you don't get the shot because it does help protect others if you come down with covid-19.

I don't think it's worth throwing a basketball career away over though.

It's going to be like this for years to come. man up Kyrie, get the shot. do it for your team, they need you.

He doesn’t give a **** about the team. If it wasn’t clear before, it should be clear by now.
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Post#303 » by Suwanee » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:00 pm

“His body his choice” my ass. If he lives in a cave all by himself, then sure. But he doesn’t.
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Post#304 » by Gooner » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:42 pm

Suwanee wrote:“His body his choice” my ass. If he lives in a cave all by himself, then sure. But he doesn’t.


Nonsense, vaccines don't stop covid, Jaylen Brown just got infected and he is vaccinated. You are free to take it if that makes you feel safe, or you can go and find that cave to hide there, but everybody has a personal choice and that won't change.
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Post#305 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:26 pm

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Suwanee wrote:“His body his choice” my ass. If he lives in a cave all by himself, then sure. But he doesn’t.


Nonsense, vaccines don't stop covid, Jaylen Brown just got infected and he is vaccinated. You are free to take it if that makes you feel safe, or you can go and find that cave to hide there, but everybody has a personal choice and that won't change.


The vaccine wasn't created to prevent you from acquiring covid, it helps prevent severe symptoms that can lead to death. But you probably think otherwise since you sound like one of those that knows more then people that work in the medical field.
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Post#306 » by Blaze4G » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:40 pm

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Suwanee wrote:“His body his choice” my ass. If he lives in a cave all by himself, then sure. But he doesn’t.


Nonsense, vaccines don't stop covid, Jaylen Brown just got infected and he is vaccinated. You are free to take it if that makes you feel safe, or you can go and find that cave to hide there, but everybody has a personal choice and that won't change.

When did anyone say the vaccine prevents you from getting covid?

The vaccine greatly reduces your chance of getting severe symptoms, reduces viral load which reduces transmission and reduces the development of new variants.
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Post#307 » by Gooner » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:17 pm

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Suwanee wrote:“His body his choice” my ass. If he lives in a cave all by himself, then sure. But he doesn’t.


Nonsense, vaccines don't stop covid, Jaylen Brown just got infected and he is vaccinated. You are free to take it if that makes you feel safe, or you can go and find that cave to hide there, but everybody has a personal choice and that won't change.


The vaccine wasn't created to prevent you from acquiring covid, it helps prevent severe symptoms that can lead to death. But you probably think otherwise since you sound like one of those that knows more then people that work in the medical field.


Kyrie won't develop severe symptoms so he has the right to refuse it. I've had covid twice, so I know what I'm talking about.
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Post#308 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:25 pm

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Gooner wrote:
Nonsense, vaccines don't stop covid, Jaylen Brown just got infected and he is vaccinated. You are free to take it if that makes you feel safe, or you can go and find that cave to hide there, but everybody has a personal choice and that won't change.


The vaccine wasn't created to prevent you from acquiring covid, it helps prevent severe symptoms that can lead to death. But you probably think otherwise since you sound like one of those that knows more then people that work in the medical field.


Kyrie won't develop severe symptoms so he has the right to refuse it. I've had covid twice, so I know what I'm talking about.


The fact that you caught it twice and you're in here spewing horsesh*t speaks volumes.

Also, you don't know how anyone will react to the virus or the long term effects of it on their health. You are spreading complete ignorance, and you don't even have a basic grasp about how vaccines work. You sound like a moron.
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Post#309 » by HardenGoat » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:47 pm

One who subordinates personal aspirations and works in a coordinated effort with other members of a group, or team, in striving for a common goal.

Iam just asking Kyrie for once to show he is a leader and a team player. This would be for his chosen basketball team and on the bigger scale for society including the minority groups that he claims to represent. By not getting vaccinated the only message he is sending is one of selfishness. We are literally at war with a virus that is killing people every day and we have a vaccine available that limits the severity and spread of infections. Why is this too much to ask?

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Post#310 » by ajones9219 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:58 pm

Gooner wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Nonsense, vaccines don't stop covid, Jaylen Brown just got infected and he is vaccinated. You are free to take it if that makes you feel safe, or you can go and find that cave to hide there, but everybody has a personal choice and that won't change.


The vaccine wasn't created to prevent you from acquiring covid, it helps prevent severe symptoms that can lead to death. But you probably think otherwise since you sound like one of those that knows more then people that work in the medical field.


Kyrie won't develop severe symptoms so he has the right to refuse it. I've had covid twice, so I know what I'm talking about.


How is it you know he won't develop severe symptoms? Jayson Tatum had to be on an inhaler for months when he got the virus
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Post#311 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:10 pm

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Post#312 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:28 pm

Kyrie's lost it man.

I didn't care that much when he took games off. Cause he always played at an elite level when he was on the court.

I didn't mind him expressing his mind on things or pissing off the media.

But hes going to possibly cost us a Championship cause hes afraid to take a shot. Its indefensible.
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Post#313 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:10 pm

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Honestly, he needs to just sit out the season. All this in and out of the line up crap isn't fair to the other 14 guys who did everything necessary to prepare for the season.

KD and Harden need to stop coddling him, but I have no hope there either. They are the only thing protecting Kyrie right now, otherwise I highly doubt Tsai and Marks would want him anywhere near the team.

I'm over it. The dude needs serious professional help.
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Post#314 » by andrewww » Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:52 pm

Gooner wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Nonsense, vaccines don't stop covid, Jaylen Brown just got infected and he is vaccinated. You are free to take it if that makes you feel safe, or you can go and find that cave to hide there, but everybody has a personal choice and that won't change.


The vaccine wasn't created to prevent you from acquiring covid, it helps prevent severe symptoms that can lead to death. But you probably think otherwise since you sound like one of those that knows more then people that work in the medical field.


Kyrie won't develop severe symptoms so he has the right to refuse it. I've had covid twice, so I know what I'm talking about.


Just ignore the Nazi on the other side, as though he thinks he knows what he’s talking about.
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Post#315 » by gigantes » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:41 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Honestly, he needs to just sit out the season. All this in and out of the line up crap isn't fair to the other 14 guys who did everything necessary to prepare for the season.

KD and Harden need to stop coddling him, but I have no hope there either. They are the only thing protecting Kyrie right now, otherwise I highly doubt Tsai and Marks would want him anywhere near the team.

I'm over it. The dude needs serious professional help.

Problem with Nets having him sit out the season is that it's likely to put a chip on his shoulder about re-signing. Yeah, yeah-- he's Brooklyn-born... this is his one true home... KD's his BFF and he loves his teammates, etc etc...

But you know Kyrie-- he's equally liable to find a way to get deeply offended, quite likely to sign with another team in order to 'stick it to us ingrates' and so forth.

No, I think I agree with Proky in this case-- let him play the games he's eligible to, pay him for those, and maybe perhaps that wears on his mind over the course of a season... especially nearing the playoffs.

Like, if Kyrie's batsh-t wackadoodle enough to believe that vaccines contain an evil Ultron-chip, well then... why can't he believe that Robert Downey Jr. just slayed Ultron, and the chips are dead, and he can safely take the vaccine, now! :D
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Post#316 » by NetsWorld » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:41 pm

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Honestly, he needs to just sit out the season. All this in and out of the line up crap isn't fair to the other 14 guys who did everything necessary to prepare for the season.

KD and Harden need to stop coddling him, but I have no hope there either. They are the only thing protecting Kyrie right now, otherwise I highly doubt Tsai and Marks would want him anywhere near the team.

I'm over it. The dude needs serious professional help.



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Post#317 » by Papi_swav » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:57 pm

Yea I agree with Kyrie not wanting the shot, because I don't have the vaccine either. But if it comes down to it and my job totally mandates it, then I gotta do what I gotta do. Kyrie just needs to man up honestly.

I understand his body his choice but he's leaving out his players to dry. A championship is not that important to kyrie, neither is basketball for that matter. I think we should just trade him. So we're just going to play him half the season and half a playoff series? don't make sense.
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Post#318 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:55 am

gigantes wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Honestly, he needs to just sit out the season. All this in and out of the line up crap isn't fair to the other 14 guys who did everything necessary to prepare for the season.

KD and Harden need to stop coddling him, but I have no hope there either. They are the only thing protecting Kyrie right now, otherwise I highly doubt Tsai and Marks would want him anywhere near the team.

I'm over it. The dude needs serious professional help.

Problem with Nets having him sit out the season is that it's likely to put a chip on his shoulder about re-signing. Yeah, yeah-- he's Brooklyn-born... this is his one true home... KD's his BFF and he loves his teammates, etc etc...

But you know Kyrie-- he's equally liable to find a way to get deeply offended, quite likely to sign with another team in order to 'stick it to us ingrates' and so forth.

No, I think I agree with Proky in this case-- let him play the games he's eligible to, pay him for those, and maybe perhaps that wears on his mind over the course of a season... especially nearing the playoffs.

Like, if Kyrie's batsh-t wackadoodle enough to believe that vaccines contain an evil Ultron-chip, well then... why can't he believe that Robert Downey Jr. just slayed Ultron, and the chips are dead, and he can safely take the vaccine, now! :D


Yeah, you're right. Might as well let things play out.

I really honestly am over it though. Boston and Cavs fans were 100% right about him. I regret ever defending him.
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Post#319 » by GTR11 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:52 am

Papi_swav wrote:Yea I agree with Kyrie not wanting the shot, because I don't have the vaccine either. But if it comes down to it and my job totally mandates it, then I gotta do what I gotta do. Kyrie just needs to man up honestly.

I understand his body his choice but he's leaving out his players to dry. A championship is not that important to kyrie, neither is basketball for that matter. I think we should just trade him. So we're just going to play him half the season and half a playoff series? don't make sense.


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Post#320 » by Whiskey Slick » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:46 am

I've turned the page on Kyrie. I can't speak for anyone else, but as for me I'm treating it like he suffered a career ending injury (of the head) and he's no-longer even a part of this team. I don't want to hear about him at practice. I don't want to hear about him at road games. I don't want to hear about him, period. Metaphorically speaking, he's dead to me. I don't even care if he goes out and scores 100 Points in a game on the road, I refuse to celebrate a QUITTER under any circumstances, and as far as I'm concerned he's already QUIT on the team. So nothing he does, OR DOESN'T DO for this team going forward matters to me.

Henceforth I'm just acting like he's not here, and if his teammates want to support that, I couldn't care less about them either. I care about this team about as much as they care about their fans ... ZERO.

I'm a NETS FAN, not a Kyrie fan, not a KD fan, not a Harden fan et al. As Jerry Seinfeld famously said, I root for the laundry, so Kyrie is dead to me, metaphorically speaking, and so is anyone who supports this quitter.

I'll occasionally watch the team (with no emotion), but my only connection will be to guys who share my feelings about a player who quit on this team. If they support his decision to quit on this team, IMO they are nothing more than enablers. If you ever had a dope-fiend in your family you know how complicit their enablers are.

Lastly, I used to watch just about every game. NO WAY I have that level of commitment anymore.

Also I wouldn't take court-side seats to Nets home games if you gave them to me. Not even luxury suites.

If enough fans stay away ownership will get the message and demand Kyrie stays away from the team.

I, for one, won't be satisfied until he's completely barred from this team, road games and practices included.

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