Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

Hello Brooklyn · Post #3021 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:47 pm

I don't know why we signed Tyler Johnson when we already have way too many guards.

Was he brought on just as a bench warmer?

Paradise · Post #3022 » by **Paradise** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:53 pm

Btw, I’d strongly advise everyone look at the Knicks preseason schedule. That’s what I anticipate the entire league will be looking like schedule wise. Especially us.

Stone · Post #3023 » by **Stone** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:16 pm

Breaking: Nets to open two game pre-season Vs Wizards.....on 12/13

Prokorov · Post #3024 » by **Prokorov** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:31 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I don't know why we signed Tyler Johnson when we already have way too many guards.

Was he brought on just as a bench warmer?

I dont think we have too many guard, especialy when Kyrie/Levert are injury prone

Kyrie | Dinwiddie
Shamet | Levert

As soon as either levert or kyrie miss time TJ becomes either the backup PG or backup SG.

when you factor in its super likely one if not both of dinwiddie/levert is traded it makes even more sense. It is also insurance in case Levert struggles in an offball role or with less volume.

ProspectPark · Post #3025 » by **ProspectPark** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:40 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I don't know why we signed Tyler Johnson when we already have way too many guards.

Was he brought on just as a bench warmer?

I don’t understand this move either.

If the rotation is:

Kyrie / LeVert
Dinwiddie / Shamet

It will already be tough to find minutes for Bruce Brown, so why sign another all offense no defense guard?

Would have preferred to give MKG or Batum a shot with the last roster spot.

Paradise · Post #3026 » by **Paradise** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:06 am

ProspectPark wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:I don't know why we signed Tyler Johnson when we already have way too many guards.

Was he brought on just as a bench warmer?

I don’t understand this move either.

If the rotation is:

Kyrie / LeVert
Dinwiddie / Shamet

It will already be tough to find minutes for Bruce Brown, so why sign another all offense no defense guard?

Would have preferred to give MKG or Batum a shot with the last roster spot.

Means load management for Kyrie and KD will be heavy.

Kyrie | Dinwiddie | Johnson
LeVert | Shamet | Brown

All guys will get minutes at times.

therealbig3 · Post #3027 » by **therealbig3** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:11 am

Johnson is Kyrie insurance, we've gotta accept that Kyrie is injury-prone and is going to miss time, it is what it is.

He's a good combo guard that gave us a nice lift towards the end of the season. I don't mind bringing him back at all.

Also pretty much means that Dinwiddie is getting traded imo.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #3028 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:26 am

Prokorov wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:I don't know why we signed Tyler Johnson when we already have way too many guards.

Was he brought on just as a bench warmer?

I dont think we have too many guard, especialy when Kyrie/Levert are injury prone

Kyrie | Dinwiddie
Shamet | Levert

As soon as either levert or kyrie miss time TJ becomes either the backup PG or backup SG.

when you factor in its super likely one if not both of dinwiddie/levert is traded it makes even more sense. It is also insurance in case Levert struggles in an offball role or with less volume.

What about Brown? And Joe Harris plays best at the 2.

This may be a prelude to a Harden trade. Who knows?

Paradise · Post #3029 » by **Paradise** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:41 am

We lost Anderson due to the TJ deal.

Read on Twitter

MrDollarBills · Post #3030 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:44 am

Paradise wrote:We lost Anderson due to the TJ deal.

Read on Twitter

No big loss, he had no role here anyway.

MrDollarBills · Post #3031 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:47 am

Paradise wrote:Btw, I’d strongly advise everyone look at the Knicks preseason schedule. That’s what I anticipate the entire league will be looking like schedule wise. Especially us.

Baseball style scheduling is smart. Cuts down on travel days.

MGrand15 · Post #3032 » by **MGrand15** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:51 am

Tyler Johnson was straight up waived by Phoenix. He had barely any interest outside of us. He's a third string guy all the way. He's a pretty good shooter who doesn't bring much else to the table. There's no need to figure rotations out.

Post #3033 » by **Trader_Joe** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:49 am

If this is the roster opening night, how do you guys see a minute distribution?

Also, with Nash comparing LeVert to Manu and us picking up either a shooter or defender to put next to Irving, does it make sense to make him a 6th man? He, Dinwiddie and maybe Allen all have good chemistry.

Some other big questions for me...

Who gets more minutes Shamet or B.Brown?

Who are the back up SF and PF?

Does Jordan still start?

How deep to do we go nightly with all the guys we have?

My guess right now...

Irving (29) l Dinwiddie (19)
B.Brown (17) l Shamet (15) l Dinwiddie (7) l CLV (9)
Harris (28) l LeVert (20)
Durant (24) l J.Green (12) l Kurucs (12)
Jordan (22) l Allen (26)

DNP: T.Johnson, TLC, T.Prince, Claxton
2 ways J.Martin and R.Perry

haosmoove · Post #3034 » by **haosmoove** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:11 am

I don't think Nash knows the rotation and minute distribution yet. A lot of his decision making may depend on the shortened training camp and see how the players fit the system and play with each other. This may be the situation extending to the start of the regular season all the way through January.

Of course, Nets can make a trade soon or at the deadline that will clear up all the logjams and make this a moot point.

Netaman · Post #3035 » by **Netaman** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:18 am

Trader_Joe wrote:Also, with Nash comparing LeVert to Manu and us picking up either a shooter or defender to put next to Irving, does it make sense to make him a 6th man? He, Dinwiddie and maybe Allen all have good chemistry.

I see Levert starting next to Harris with Dinwiddie in the 6th man role. Not sure who is considered the 2 and who is the 3 between CLV/Harris but doesn't really make a big difference. Levert has the capacity to be the team's swiss army knife and if he is going to close out games next to KD and Kyrie, may as well let him start the game with them too. He needs to learn how to fit next to them efficiently and capitalize on the space he's gonna get.

Trader_Joe wrote:Who gets more minutes Shamet or B.Brown?

Avg. minutes will be close but I don't think they will play consistently game to game - their PT will be dictated by matchups and riding the hot hand. If they need more offense because CLV or Harris is off, Shamet will be the first off the bench and vice versa if they need defense.

Trader_Joe wrote:Who are the back up SF and PF?

I'm not optimistic about him but I see Prince getting first crack at backup forward (both 3 and 4). It would surprise me if he got DNP'd over Green or Kurucs. But I'm not sure how much rope he will get. If he doesn't play well and other young guys don't step up I'd imagine this role will go to Green.

Trader_Joe wrote:Does Jordan still start?

If KD is starting at the 4, Jordan is likely starting at the 5 - and it's probably the right call.

Trader_Joe wrote:How deep to do we go nightly with all the guys we have?

10 deep seems like a safe answer. On nights where they "load manage" Kyrie, Tyler Johnson probably plays. On nights where KD gets load managed, 1 of the other forwards plays (Green, TLC, Kurucs?).

Prince vs. TLC vs. Kurucs is going to be a fascinating camp competition. If 1 of those guys can step up as a legitimate rotation piece that solves a pretty big need behind KD. All 3 were first rounders and have flashed at times on both ends but haven't found consistency on either one. Would be great to see 1 of those guys reach their potential and not have to close out games with Jeff Green.

TheNetsFan · Post #3036 » by **TheNetsFan** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:22 am

Trader_Joe wrote:If this is the roster opening night, how do you guys see a minute distribution?

Also, with Nash comparing LeVert to Manu and us picking up either a shooter or defender to put next to Irving, does it make sense to make him a 6th man? He, Dinwiddie and maybe Allen all have good chemistry.

Some other big questions for me...

Who gets more minutes Shamet or B.Brown?

Who are the back up SF and PF?

Does Jordan still start?

How deep to do we go nightly with all the guys we have?

My guess right now...

Irving (29) l Dinwiddie (19)
B.Brown (17) l Shamet (15) l Dinwiddie (7) l CLV (9)
Harris (28) l LeVert (20)
Durant (24) l J.Green (12) l Kurucs (12)
Jordan (22) l Allen (26)

DNP: T.Johnson, TLC, T.Prince, Claxton
2 ways J.Martin and R.Perry

It depends on the pace we're going to play. If we assume we're going to go 7 seconds or less, then we need to go deeper into the bench. If we're at a more methodical pace, then the starters can play more minutes. What remains to be seen is what happens to Dinwiddie. If, as expected, he's moved, then LeVert as the true Manu-type start off the bench to lead the 2nd unit, but close games makes more sense, especially if Dinwiddie returns a starting capable F. As long as Dinwiddie is around, there's no need for LeVert to come off the bench. Also, if we play a faster pace I believe Allen will be the clear winner of the minutes battle, even if he doesn't start.

Irving (32) l Dinwiddie (16) l Johnson (DNP-2)
LeVert (20) l Shamet (15) l Dinwiddie (7) l B.Brown (6)
Harris (28) l Prince (8) l LeVert (6)
Durant (30) l Prince (8) l J.Green (8) l Kurucs (DNP-2)
Jordan (20) l Allen (28)

GTR11 · Post #3037 » by **GTR11** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:00 am

MGrand15 wrote:Tyler Johnson was straight up waived by Phoenix. He had barely any interest outside of us. He's a third string guy all the way. He's a pretty good shooter who doesn't bring much else to the table. There's no need to figure rotations out.

Exactly, those Twitter guys cracked me down with their takes. Also TJ injury prone himself, one of the better third stringers nothing else.

Prokorov · Post #3038 » by **Prokorov** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:07 am

ProspectPark wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:I don't know why we signed Tyler Johnson when we already have way too many guards.

Was he brought on just as a bench warmer?

I don’t understand this move either.

If the rotation is:

Kyrie / LeVert
Dinwiddie / Shamet

It will already be tough to find minutes for Bruce Brown, so why sign another all offense no defense guard?

Would have preferred to give MKG or Batum a shot with the last roster spot.

Brown is an 8 minute per game player who will get plenty of DNPs and only really see extended times in games where we cant get a stop and the offense isnt getting it done.

Levert/Kyrie are locks to miss time. you need another guard there. plus TJ fits our roster well

Prokorov · Post #3039 » by **Prokorov** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:10 am

Trader_Joe wrote:If this is the roster opening night, how do you guys see a minute distribution?

Also, with Nash comparing LeVert to Manu and us picking up either a shooter or defender to put next to Irving, does it make sense to make him a 6th man? He, Dinwiddie and maybe Allen all have good chemistry.

Some other big questions for me...

Who gets more minutes Shamet or B.Brown?

Who are the back up SF and PF?

Does Jordan still start?

How deep to do we go nightly with all the guys we have?

My guess right now...

Irving (29) l Dinwiddie (19)
B.Brown (17) l Shamet (15) l Dinwiddie (7) l CLV (9)
Harris (28) l LeVert (20)
Durant (24) l J.Green (12) l Kurucs (12)
Jordan (22) l Allen (26)

DNP: T.Johnson, TLC, T.Prince, Claxton
2 ways J.Martin and R.Perry

Brown is not starting and shamet is going to see a ton more minutes then that. Brown is an 8-12 mpg guy who will only see extended time in games we cant seem to get steps AND the offense isnt working

DarkXaero · Post #3040 » by **DarkXaero** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:55 am

IMO, the amount of guards we have right now means that a trade of some sort is coming up. Tyler Johnson wasn't signed to be third string here, I don't think that's the role he would be looking to accept, as from a career standpoint, he needs to be in a situation where he gets minutes. And this is the same guy who Sean Marks made that big offer sheet to, years ago. Most of what we saw from him in the bubble was very encouraging as well.