Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[MrDollarBills]

For those who wanted us to trade for Otto Porter before,

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I hope we stay the **** away from him when he becomes a free agent next year

I have no problem with this...if it was like...last year before the pandemic. if that was this year, then clearly he has no common sense.

Otherwise....it's a harmless video. he's having fun with girls sharing a bottle of booze.

that being said, Porter has played 29 games in the last two years. He's a no go.

[DarkXaero]

For those who wanted us to trade for Otto Porter before,

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I hope we stay the **** away from him when he becomes a free agent next year

I have no problem with this...if it was like...last year before the pandemic. if that was this year, then clearly he has no common sense.

Otherwise....it's a harmless video. he's having fun with girls sharing a bottle of booze.

that being said, Porter has played 29 games in the last two years. He's a no go.

It's from Halloween this year...

Also its a completely different story if it's someone actually productive on a basketball court doing that. If the likes of Harden & Kawhi are hanging out at strip clubs on the regular, I don't have a problem with that because they're elite on the court and they put in the work. But this guy has been chilling since he got his contract, making over $25 mill/yr for doing nothing. And now you got all the noise coming out about him being a party animal who doesn't give a **** about basketball and doesn't work on his game. Yeah, no thanks

[MrDollarBills]

For those who wanted us to trade for Otto Porter before,

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I hope we stay the **** away from him when he becomes a free agent next year

I have no problem with this...if it was like...last year before the pandemic. if that was this year, then clearly he has no common sense.

Otherwise....it's a harmless video. he's having fun with girls sharing a bottle of booze.

that being said, Porter has played 29 games in the last two years. He's a no go.

It's from Halloween this year...

Also its a completely different story if it's someone actually productive on a basketball court doing that. If the likes of Harden & Kawhi are hanging out at strip clubs on the regular, I don't have a problem with that because they're elite on the court and they put in the work. But this guy has been chilling since he got his contract, making over $25 mill/yr for doing nothing. And now you got all the noise coming out about him being a party animal who doesn't give a **** about basketball and doesn't work on his game. Yeah, no thanks

Okay, so that confirms that he's a moron, along with everyone else in that video who were sharing that bottle. And people wonder why this pandemic will never end?

That being said, the guy is a hard pass as is, he isn't healthy and while his numbers aren't horrible, they don't warrant the money that he makes.

[Paradise]

Cheeze is back.

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[Sharcm1]

So what’s our guard count up to now ?

[3pt_chucker]

So what’s our guard count up to now ?

A lot

KI, CLV, Din, Brown, TJ, Okoba, Cheeze, Martin

However with Kyrie and LeVert being injury prone, plus the plan to play fast/up tempo and Covid19 lurking, it makes sense to have as many guards as possible.

There should be be a fierce camp competition for 2 way contracts

[ecuhus1981]

So what’s our guard count up to now ?

A lot

KI, CLV, Din, Brown, TJ, Okoba, Cheeze, Martin

However with Kyrie and LeVert being injury prone, plus the plan to play fast/up tempo and Covid19 lurking, it makes sense to have as many guards as possible.

There should be be a fierce camp competition for 2 way contracts

Also, Shamet.

Martin is a 2-way, and most likely Perry is the other.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Whats the point of bringing back Chiozza if hes 25 and we have way too many guards?

I don't get it.

[MrDollarBills]

Whats the point of bringing back Chiozza if hes 25 and we have way too many guards?

I don't get it.

Camp body most likely. Here are the definite makes:

Irving, Dinwiddie, LeVert, Brown, Shamet, Johnson.

[3pt_chucker]

So what’s our guard count up to now ?

A lot

KI, CLV, Din, Brown, TJ, Okoba, Cheeze, Martin

However with Kyrie and LeVert being injury prone, plus the plan to play fast/up tempo and Covid19 lurking, it makes sense to have as many guards as possible.

There should be be a fierce camp competition for 2 way contracts

Also, Shamet.

Martin is a 2-way, and most likely Perry is the other.

Right, forgot about Shamet. Team is fully stocked at G

[NyCeEvO]

We keep insisting that evidence of more guards is a sign of a looming trade.

While it would certainly help to have backups to replace Levert and Dinwiddie if they were traded, it could very well be that D'Antoni is influencing Nash to have us play a ton of small ball like HOU.

I think KD is a full-time 4 and will probably even play some 5. (Remember, Nash explicitly said this in his early interviews.) Management could very well believe that the rotation at the 4 is KD, Green, and Prince, while Allen, DJ, and KD are at the 5.

I expect us to utilize a ton of 3 guard lineups.

[TheNetsFan]

We keep insisting that evidence of more guards is a sign of a looming trade.

While it would certainly help to have backups to replace Levert and Dinwiddie if they were traded, it could very well be that D'Antoni is influencing Nash to have us play a ton of small ball like HOU.

I think KD is a full-time 4 and will probably even play some 5. (Remember, Nash explicitly said this in his early interviews.) Management could very well believe that the rotation at the 4 is KD, Green, and Prince, while Allen, DJ, and KD are at the 5.

I expect us to utilize a ton of 3 guard lineups.

KD is a full time 4. That should never have been a debate. You lose speed/agility/explosiveness after injury more than you'd lose strength. We don't want him chasing guys on the perimeter.

[TheNetsFan]

Whats the point of bringing back Chiozza if hes 25 and we have way too many guards?

I don't get it.

Camp body most likely. Here are the definite makes:

Irving, Dinwiddie, LeVert, Brown, Shamet, Johnson.

Harris gets the full time SF designation?

[Prokorov]

So what’s our guard count up to now ?

A lot

KI, CLV, Din, Brown, TJ, Okoba, Cheeze, Martin

However with Kyrie and LeVert being injury prone, plus the plan to play fast/up tempo and Covid19 lurking, it makes sense to have as many guards as possible.

There should be be a fierce camp competition for 2 way contracts

Most teams are gonna carry 5-6 guards and use 4-5 in their rotation.

Kyrie, Dinwiddie, Shamet, Levert, TJ are likely 5 rotations guards. Brown probably sees a 6 minute shift and maybe the final 2 minutes with a bunch of DNPs in there. Chozza wears a suit and sees court when Kyrie and levert are injured/resting. Brown will split time between the 2 and 3 and see maybe one 6 moinute shift plus close a tight game. will probably see about 1/3 DNPs too. Okobo is a pinson garbage time towel waiver.

Guards:
Kyrie | Dinwiddie | Chiozza
Shamet | Levert | TJ | Okobo

Forwards:
Harris | TLC | Brown
KD | Prince | Green

Bigs:
Jordan | Allen | Claxton

Seems like a pretty standard roster. if its slighly more guard heavy its because Levert and kyrie will miss time for sure and Dinwiddie is a goner in FA if not traded and you want to have that next guy already here (TJ) instead of scrambling in the offseason

[MrDollarBills]

Whats the point of bringing back Chiozza if hes 25 and we have way too many guards?

I don't get it.

Camp body most likely. Here are the definite makes:

Irving, Dinwiddie, LeVert, Brown, Shamet, Johnson.

Harris gets the full time SF designation?

I think the SF rotation is Harris, Prince, and TLC, with the PFs being Durant, Green, and Kurucs.

That is some nice depth. Defensively I have questions, but still. Our bench is probably the best in the league.

Jordan/Allen/Claxton
Durant/Green/Kurucs
Harris/Prince/TLC
LeVert/Shamet/Johnson
Irving/Dinwiddie/Brown

All in all, that's a pretty damn good roster.

[Papi_swav]

We keep insisting that evidence of more guards is a sign of a looming trade.

While it would certainly help to have backups to replace Levert and Dinwiddie if they were traded, it could very well be that D'Antoni is influencing Nash to have us play a ton of small ball like HOU.

I think KD is a full-time 4 and will probably even play some 5. (Remember, Nash explicitly said this in his early interviews.) Management could very well believe that the rotation at the 4 is KD, Green, and Prince, while Allen, DJ, and KD are at the 5.

I expect us to utilize a ton of 3 guard lineups.

KD is a full time 4. That should never have been a debate. You lose speed/agility/explosiveness after injury more than you'd lose strength. We don't want him chasing guys on the perimeter.

I been saying this since day one, I don't understand why guys can't get this. The 4 is basically another wing position in todays NBA, just with bigger guys.

[Prokorov]

Camp body most likely. Here are the definite makes:

Irving, Dinwiddie, LeVert, Brown, Shamet, Johnson.

Harris gets the full time SF designation?

I think the SF rotation is Harris, Prince, and TLC, with the PFs being Durant, Green, and Kurucs.

That is some nice depth. Defensively I have questions, but still. Our bench is probably the best in the league.

Jordan/Allen/Claxton
Durant/Green/Kurucs
Harris/Prince/TLC
LeVert/Shamet/Johnson
Irving/Dinwiddie/Brown

All in all, that's a pretty damn good roster.

I'm interest to see how much time Prince sees at PF and Rodi sees at Center. based on the bubble and Nash/D'antoni my guess would be more often then we think.

Thats a solid roster. especially if KD is 75-85% or more. if KD is 90-100% its the best team we have had (on paper) since Dr. J.

Would still like to see us turn one of dinwiddie/levert or allen into another wing scorer. doesn need to be harden or beal, maybe the lite version of that. but id like a bull who can keep the ship going when KD/Kyrie sit. maybe levert or dinwiddie is that guy. who knows

[Prokorov]

We keep insisting that evidence of more guards is a sign of a looming trade.

While it would certainly help to have backups to replace Levert and Dinwiddie if they were traded, it could very well be that D'Antoni is influencing Nash to have us play a ton of small ball like HOU.

I think KD is a full-time 4 and will probably even play some 5. (Remember, Nash explicitly said this in his early interviews.) Management could very well believe that the rotation at the 4 is KD, Green, and Prince, while Allen, DJ, and KD are at the 5.

I expect us to utilize a ton of 3 guard lineups.

KD is a full time 4. That should never have been a debate. You lose speed/agility/explosiveness after injury more than you'd lose strength. We don't want him chasing guys on the perimeter.

I been saying this since day one, I don't understand why guys can't get this. The 4 is basically another wing position in todays NBA, just with bigger guys.

i never understood the "he has to bang with the 4s" argument. there are like 3 PFs left in the league. the position is becoming extinct. hell there arent a ton of center you even need to bang with these days.

And the PFs who are big and physical cant handle KD, so those teams will be pressured to go smaller/quicker/more athletic at the 4. Its one thing when you have prince at PF and he cant handle bigger guys. no one is changing their lineup because of princes offensive prowess

but the beauty of KD is teams need to adjust to us, not the other way around. we put KD at the 4 or 5 and teams have no choice but to go small. its also hard to hide a defender when KD is in the lineup since he handles the ball and 1 or 2 picks and eh can hunt the matchup we want

[MrDollarBills]

Harris gets the full time SF designation?

I think the SF rotation is Harris, Prince, and TLC, with the PFs being Durant, Green, and Kurucs.

That is some nice depth. Defensively I have questions, but still. Our bench is probably the best in the league.

Jordan/Allen/Claxton
Durant/Green/Kurucs
Harris/Prince/TLC
LeVert/Shamet/Johnson
Irving/Dinwiddie/Brown

All in all, that's a pretty damn good roster.

I'm interest to see how much time Prince sees at PF and Rodi sees at Center. based on the bubble and Nash/D'antoni my guess would be more often then we think.

Thats a solid roster. especially if KD is 75-85% or more. if KD is 90-100% its the best team we have had (on paper) since Dr. J.

Would still like to see us turn one of dinwiddie/levert or allen into another wing scorer. doesn need to be harden or beal, maybe the lite version of that. but id like a bull who can keep the ship going when KD/Kyrie sit. maybe levert or dinwiddie is that guy. who knows

are you thinking about Zach LaVine?

I like Green and Rodi at PF more than Prince. I think he'll play a lot better this year at his natural position anyway.

[Trader_Joe]

So apparently FAs signed this year can be traded started December 8th which for us includes:

Harris
TJ (he can veto)
Chiozza
J.Green

I'm not sure if we can trade Shamet or B.Brown since they were in multi-player deals tho.

So current roster:

Irving / Dinwiddie / T.Johnson
LeVert / Shamet / Brown
Harris / TLC / Prince
Durant / Kurucs / J.Green
Jordan / Allen / Claxton

I am guessing J.Martin is waived and Chiozza and R.Perry are the 2-ways.

I still don't see who guards Giannis, Butler, Tatum in the East, LBJ, Leonard, George in the West.
Covington and Holiday are off the board.
So that leaves.. Gordon (who I still am a fan of), Oladipo, (but he's a risk with his injury and contract status.. plus can he guard 6'8" guys?). PJ Tucker maybe? Can he guard wings, or strictly bigs these days?

Otherwise Roberson is out there (but who do we get rid of) and maybe Ariza if he's bought out.

Really I think our best hopes are internal.
CLV - has the length and instinct and started to bulk up, but he's a bit slow at times and gambles.
T.Prince - very stringy and not the highest IQ, but the tools are there.
TLC - I'm irrationally high on TLC and almost think he's our best bet.
Kurucs - people compared him to AK47 his rookie year with his length, defense and ability to play the 3 or 4, but he regressed last year.
and of course Durant... I don't want the onus on him right away, but if he's back to his old self, he's probably the best defender we have.