Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

shakendfries · Post #321 » by **shakendfries** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:17 am

DeRoma wrote:What do you guys think of Mozgov for Parsons and top 3 protected 2019

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Ror1997 · Post #322 » by **Ror1997** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:26 am

Parsons is looking like an okay player. Not worth his contract but still making a case to get 30 mins a night. Memphis wouldn't swap Parsons for Mosgov straight up, let alone add a pick

MrDollarBills · Post #323 » by **MrDollarBills** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:14 am

DeRoma wrote:What do you guys think of Mozgov for Parsons and top 3 protected 2019

nope, would rather let Mozgov expire.

DeRoma · Post #324 » by **DeRoma** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:36 am

Ror1997 wrote:Parsons is looking like an okay player. Not worth his contract but still making a case to get 30 mins a night. Memphis wouldn't swap Parsons for Mosgov straight up, let alone add a pick

he is injury prone and 10 mill higher than Mozgov. Let alone he is not putting up stats in Mem. If they have a fire sale they need to get rid of big contracts like Conley and Gasol

LKIRNets · Post #325 » by **LKIRNets** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:42 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
DeRoma wrote:What do you guys think of Mozgov for Parsons and top 3 protected 2019

nope, would rather let Mozgov expire.

Bruh if they throw in a pick and JaMychal I make that move tomorrow.

Paradise · Post #326 » by **Paradise** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:12 am

DeRoma wrote:What do you guys think of Mozgov for Parsons and top 3 protected 2019

They don’t own their pick. It goes to Boston.

MrDollarBills · Post #327 » by **MrDollarBills** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:59 pm

25 mil a season for a dude barely averaging 8ppg isn't really a good idea.

DeRoma · Post #328 » by **DeRoma** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:42 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:25 mil a season for a dude barely averaging 8ppg isn't really a good idea.

Getting a lottery pick that will be in the top 10 might be worth the money. Atleast Parsons still has something contribute if he doesn’t get injured

Well atleast I thought lol I guess Boston’s has their pick Lmao

Paradise · Post #329 » by **Paradise** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:58 pm

DeRoma wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:25 mil a season for a dude barely averaging 8ppg isn't really a good idea.

Getting a lottery pick that will be in the top 10 might be worth the money. Atleast Parsons still has something contribute if he doesn’t get injured

Well atleast I thought lol I guess Boston’s has their pick Lmao

The Grizz are capped out until 2020 and unless they somehow land a stud with their pick this year, they will be stuck as is until 2020 without a top 3 lotto pick. Boston has its rights and protections until 2021.

So far, their only solid prospects are Dillon Brooks and Deytona Davis. Rabb, kobi Simmons are in the G-League. Wayne Sheldon hasn’t done anything and they gave up on their last 1st rounder, Wade Baldwin. They have no attractive pieces besides Green and they can’t trade him until December.

Marc Gasol looking like Deron Williams out there. Gets benched, complains, solid coach gets fired, he comes out and finishes with a 10/6/7 stat line while LMA goes off for 41.

Somehow, they’ve turned into the Billy King era Nets and the Sean Marks Nets’ have turned into Grit n’ Grind.

shakendfries · Post #330 » by **shakendfries** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:27 pm

Paradise wrote:
DeRoma wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:25 mil a season for a dude barely averaging 8ppg isn't really a good idea.

Getting a lottery pick that will be in the top 10 might be worth the money. Atleast Parsons still has something contribute if he doesn’t get injured

Well atleast I thought lol I guess Boston’s has their pick Lmao

The Grizz are capped out until 2020 and unless they somehow land a stud with their pick this year, they will be stuck as is until 2020 without a top 3 lotto pick. Boston has its rights and protections until 2021.

So far, their only solid prospects are Dillon Brooks and Deytona Davis. Rabb, kobi Simmons are in the G-League. Wayne Sheldon hasn’t done anything and they gave up on their last 1st rounder, Wade Baldwin. They have no attractive pieces besides Green and they can’t trade him until December.

Marc Gasol looking like Deron Williams out there. Gets benched, complains, solid coach gets fired, he comes out and finishes with a 10/6/7 stat line while LMA goes off for 41.

Somehow, they’ve turned into the Billy King era Nets and the Sean Marks Nets’ have turned into Grit n’ Grind.

Impatient ownership & attachment to star players is the quickest way to franchise ruin

Keith Van Horn · Post #331 » by **Keith Van Horn** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:43 pm

I'm just pissed that we're getting smashed with injuries THIS year, the final year in which we don't own our own pick.

WHY COULDN'T THESE HAVE HAPPENED NEXT YEAR?! Next year we'll be 100% healthy and make the playoffs, just to ensure we still get a non lotto pick. Watch.

MrDollarBills · Post #332 » by **MrDollarBills** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:53 pm

^and I'm fine with that. Team morale will improve, guys will be better, and will play even harder as the wins begin to mount up.

At some point, the hard working being put in has to start paying off.

IceManBK1 · Post #333 » by **IceManBK1** » Fri Dec 1, 2017 1:18 am

15 days until Nerlens Noel can be traded...hope Mavs pay attention to some of our bench players. Maybe Skil+2nd rounder can get it done. Since Mozgov moved to the bench, our games has been alot closer and opposing bigs aren't torching us as much. Having a defensive big will win us some close games where defense and reb matters.

Paradise · Post #334 » by **Paradise** » Fri Dec 1, 2017 2:52 am

IceManBK1 wrote:15 days until Nerlens Noel can be traded...hope Mavs pay attention to some of our bench players. Maybe Skil+2nd rounder can get it done. Since Mozgov moved to the bench, our games has been alot closer and opposing bigs aren't torching us as much. Having a defensive big will win us some close games where defense and reb matters.

I agree but Noel is rotting in Dallas because he doesn’t play hard. He played himself. The fact he’s failing at winning a starting job in Dallas after expecting a max contract doesn’t bode well for him.

IceManBK1 · Post #335 » by **IceManBK1** » Fri Dec 1, 2017 3:03 am

Paradise wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:15 days until Nerlens Noel can be traded...hope Mavs pay attention to some of our bench players. Maybe Skil+2nd rounder can get it done. Since Mozgov moved to the bench, our games has been alot closer and opposing bigs aren't torching us as much. Having a defensive big will win us some close games where defense and reb matters.

I agree but Noel is rotting in Dallas because he doesn’t play hard. He played himself. The fact he’s failing at winning a starting job in Dallas after expecting a max contract doesn’t bode well for him.

i think it has to do with Noel not resigning with them and Dirk being too old and slow to play pf and hence gotta play center. They know he's gonna bounce so why bother playing him. now if mavs are smart they trade him before the deadline so they can atleast get a lil sth in return.

Aussienet3 · Post #336 » by **Aussienet3** » Fri Dec 1, 2017 4:46 am

With Joey Buckets becoming a free agent. Under the CBA can we do a S&T with him and another player for something in return? I'm not saying we should do this I'm just thinking of a way to get value for him if he A) wants to leave or B) gets an offer he can't refuse.
Example
Harris 10mill Lin 12mill = 22mill could we get a player worth 20-23mill in return?

Keith Van Horn · Post #337 » by **Keith Van Horn** » Fri Dec 1, 2017 7:41 pm

Paradise wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:15 days until Nerlens Noel can be traded...hope Mavs pay attention to some of our bench players. Maybe Skil+2nd rounder can get it done. Since Mozgov moved to the bench, our games has been alot closer and opposing bigs aren't torching us as much. Having a defensive big will win us some close games where defense and reb matters.

I agree but Noel is rotting in Dallas because he doesn’t play hard. He played himself. The fact he’s failing at winning a starting job in Dallas after expecting a max contract doesn’t bode well for him.

True, but if the cost is low to us then I think the risk is worth it. However, I wouldn't trade a 2nd rounder in the deal; I'd only do Skil or Acy heads up.

Let Noel come here and have the chance to prove himself over again. Evaluate him all season and keep him around the guys like DMC and Booker as much as possible to build his character.

If he's a lazy turd, then all we lost was a rotation guy for the price. I'm sure Dallas would listen to offers as they might view him as better off gone than around. Keep him tucked at the end of the bench between Mosgov and the regular players.

Claud · Post #338 » by **Claud** » Fri Dec 1, 2017 9:32 pm

If someone throws a 1st round pick for either Booker/DMC (or both) at the deadline should we do it?

Makes sense if you look at the bigger picture and long term rebuild POV but losing those 2 who bring so much grit, game and leadership will definitely hurt. We have great player development so having assets to acquire good young talent makes sense but the team must be balanced with some vets such as those two.

Tough one.

treiz · Post #339 » by **treiz** » Sat Dec 2, 2017 1:53 am

As much as I would love to accumulate more assets, I will say it depends what the pick is. Late teens should be good enough but I would try and push for late lottery mainly because we have no reason to trade them. Carroll and Booker are both so vital to the team and culture development.

TheNetsFan · Post #340 » by **TheNetsFan** » Sat Dec 2, 2017 3:30 am

You absolutely deal them for firsts. We're focused on 2020 & beyond. That's our window. neither is likely to be around at that point, so you move them for assets & cap space if you can.

What is interesting is due to some pleasant surprises, we can actually cobble together some attractive packages by combining cost-effective vets (Carroll, Booker) with cheap young players (Levert, RHJ, Dinwiddie). If a team decides to blow it up & rebuild, we may be able to offer an attractive package, or at worst facilitate a 3 team deal.