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Post#341 » by Net Sentence » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:35 am

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Post#342 » by Kytan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:18 pm

Claud wrote:Really enjoying getting to know Lin. He seems like a down to earth type of dude with a good head on him.

I have a weird feeling he and this team will surprise a lot of people next season. Let's hope for an injury free season especially for our key guys Lopez + Lin.

He might end up being our best PG since JKidd days. Just a gut feeling. No, I didn't forget about Dwill and Harris. 8-)


I am a Lin homer, but to put things in perspective, no way is Lin at JKidd's Level.

JKidd is a future Hall of Famer and falls within the top 10 PG of all times.
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Post#343 » by Claud » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:45 pm

Kytan wrote:
Claud wrote:Really enjoying getting to know Lin. He seems like a down to earth type of dude with a good head on him.

I have a weird feeling he and this team will surprise a lot of people next season. Let's hope for an injury free season especially for our key guys Lopez + Lin.

He might end up being our best PG since JKidd days. Just a gut feeling. No, I didn't forget about Dwill and Harris. 8-)


I am a Lin homer, but to put things in perspective, no way is Lin at JKidd's Level.

JKidd is a future Hall of Famer and falls within the top 10 PG of all times.



Never said he'd be as good as Kidd. Just said I have a feeling he'll be our best PG since we had Kidd on this roster years ago meaning I feel Lin will end up being better than Jack, Dwill and Devin Harris.
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Post#344 » by bws94 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:58 pm

Kytan wrote:
Claud wrote:Really enjoying getting to know Lin. He seems like a down to earth type of dude with a good head on him.

I have a weird feeling he and this team will surprise a lot of people next season. Let's hope for an injury free season especially for our key guys Lopez + Lin.

He might end up being our best PG since JKidd days. Just a gut feeling. No, I didn't forget about Dwill and Harris. 8-)


I am a Lin homer, but to put things in perspective, no way is Lin at JKidd's Level.

JKidd is a future Hall of Famer and falls within the top 10 PG of all times.


Top 10, I don't know. But JKidd was a great player, one of the top and at times the top PG when he played. And on both ends of the floor.
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Post#345 » by Manitoba » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:23 pm

bws94 wrote:
Kytan wrote:
Claud wrote:Really enjoying getting to know Lin. He seems like a down to earth type of dude with a good head on him.

I have a weird feeling he and this team will surprise a lot of people next season. Let's hope for an injury free season especially for our key guys Lopez + Lin.

He might end up being our best PG since JKidd days. Just a gut feeling. No, I didn't forget about Dwill and Harris. 8-)


I am a Lin homer, but to put things in perspective, no way is Lin at JKidd's Level.

JKidd is a future Hall of Famer and falls within the top 10 PG of all times.


Top 10, I don't know. But JKidd was a great player, one of the top and at times the top PG when he played. And on both ends of the floor.

Please, read more carefully before you start to kneejerk like a Lin hater.

Claud has already clarified his initial statement. He should not have needed to do that as his initial statement was perfectly clear. "The best [Nets] PG since Kidd" does not mean "as good as Kidd".

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Post#346 » by Manitoba » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:27 pm

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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#347 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:32 pm

bws94 wrote:
Kytan wrote:
Claud wrote:Really enjoying getting to know Lin. He seems like a down to earth type of dude with a good head on him.

I have a weird feeling he and this team will surprise a lot of people next season. Let's hope for an injury free season especially for our key guys Lopez + Lin.

He might end up being our best PG since JKidd days. Just a gut feeling. No, I didn't forget about Dwill and Harris. 8-)


I am a Lin homer, but to put things in perspective, no way is Lin at JKidd's Level.

JKidd is a future Hall of Famer and falls within the top 10 PG of all times.


Top 10, I don't know. But JKidd was a great player, one of the top and at times the top PG when he played. And on both ends of the floor.


Jason Kidd is 2nd all time in assists, 3rd all time in career triple doubles. There is no debate that Jason Kidd is one of the ten best PGs to ever play on an NBA court. This is not up for debate.

Jason Kidd was the type that could impose his will upon a game on both ends of the floor with his elite team defense and god tier passing ability. He could score zero pts in a game and still be the best player on the floor at all times. You cannot say that about many players. He was a god tier player. GOD tier. 1st ballot HOF.

The only way we can say "Lin" and "Kidd" in the same sentence regarding the Nets is only if Lin's impact can come close to what Kidd did his first year here. We were destined to be one of the 5 worst teams in the league the year we acquired Kidd. Kidd transformed this team into one of the most potent fast break attack teams the league had seen in some time and a top tier defensive club. Running teams out of the damn gym. Punishing alley oops. Gritty playoff wins.

Lin has a lot of work to do to even come close to that level. :lol:
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Post#348 » by steady » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:41 pm

Jason Kidd talk reminding me of what I remember as Lin's best performance as a Knicks. Mavericks game where he faced J Kidd.

Some nice quotes after that game by defending champion Mavs about Lin, including this

“He is very humble and plays extremely hard no matter if he makes a mistake or makes a fantastic play,” Mavericks point guard Jason Kidd said.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/sports/basketball/in-defeat-mavericks-praise-knicks-lin.html
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Post#349 » by bws94 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:17 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
bws94 wrote:
Kytan wrote:
I am a Lin homer, but to put things in perspective, no way is Lin at JKidd's Level.

JKidd is a future Hall of Famer and falls within the top 10 PG of all times.


Top 10, I don't know. But JKidd was a great player, one of the top and at times the top PG when he played. And on both ends of the floor.


Jason Kidd is 2nd all time in assists, 3rd all time in career triple doubles. There is no debate that Jason Kidd is one of the ten best PGs to ever play on an NBA court. This is not up for debate.

Jason Kidd was the type that could impose his will upon a game on both ends of the floor with his elite team defense and god tier passing ability. He could score zero pts in a game and still be the best player on the floor at all times. You cannot say that about many players. He was a god tier player. GOD tier. 1st ballot HOF.

The only way we can say "Lin" and "Kidd" in the same sentence regarding the Nets is only if Lin's impact can come close to what Kidd did his first year here. We were destined to be one of the 5 worst teams in the league the year we acquired Kidd. Kidd transformed this team into one of the most potent fast break attack teams the league had seen in some time and a top tier defensive club. Running teams out of the damn gym. Punishing alley oops. Gritty playoff wins.

Lin has a lot of work to do to even come close to that level. :lol:


Ha ha, didn't say he wasn't. And no one is comparing Lin to him. The initial poster that mentioned him said since Kidd, not that Lin was on Kidd's level. I was just talking about Kidd and thought he might be on of the 10 all-time greats, but I didn't really think about all of the PGs. I have no disagreement with you at all about how great Kidd was. And, now that I thought about it, I think he is. Like, 6 or 7 or so. I'm not sure. I like Magic but IT1, Stockton, Kidd, were better overall 2-way players. Gary Payton was one of the best defenders.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#350 » by PG13 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:37 pm

steady wrote:Jason Kidd talk reminding me of what I remember as Lin's best performance as a Knicks. Mavericks game where he faced J Kidd.

Some nice quotes after that game by defending champion Mavs about Lin, including this

“He is very humble and plays extremely hard no matter if he makes a mistake or makes a fantastic play,” Mavericks point guard Jason Kidd said.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/sports/basketball/in-defeat-mavericks-praise-knicks-lin.html


Then the next time they met, Kidd pulled Lin to the ground by his hair. Some said that's possibly how Lin tore his meniscus.
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Post#351 » by steady » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:40 pm

PG13 wrote:
steady wrote:Jason Kidd talk reminding me of what I remember as Lin's best performance as a Knicks. Mavericks game where he faced J Kidd.

Some nice quotes after that game by defending champion Mavs about Lin, including this

“He is very humble and plays extremely hard no matter if he makes a mistake or makes a fantastic play,” Mavericks point guard Jason Kidd said.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/sports/basketball/in-defeat-mavericks-praise-knicks-lin.html


Then the next time they met, Kidd pulled Lin to the ground by his hair. Some said that's possibly how Lin tore his meniscus.


Is that right? I totally forgot that part. Lol
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Post#352 » by DartboardT » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:46 pm

Pfft, all you need to know is Lin takes his fair share of abuse on-court NOW. Yes, there was even a moment when a Charlotte Fan Mom sitting courtside yelled at a player to leave Jeremy alone. Unfortunately I don't have the video link handy.

NYT article plus some other media coverage will balance the scales a bit, hopefully. Lin's a tough PG, but a lot of those extracurriculars by "defending players" were just plain sketchy. When you get beat off the dribble, don't beat up the guy who beat you (normal fouling strategy aside).
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Post#353 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:56 pm

PG13 wrote:
steady wrote:Jason Kidd talk reminding me of what I remember as Lin's best performance as a Knicks. Mavericks game where he faced J Kidd.

Some nice quotes after that game by defending champion Mavs about Lin, including this

“He is very humble and plays extremely hard no matter if he makes a mistake or makes a fantastic play,” Mavericks point guard Jason Kidd said.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/sports/basketball/in-defeat-mavericks-praise-knicks-lin.html


Then the next time they met, Kidd pulled Lin to the ground by his hair. Some said that's possibly how Lin tore his meniscus.

Kidd was a great PG, but he's definitely not a particularly nice guy.
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Post#354 » by TinmanZBoy » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:59 pm

well, Palo Alto definitely is close to Oakland
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Post#355 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:03 pm

So Jarrett Jack signed for the vet min, Donald Sloan is out of the league, Larkin opted out but still unsigned.

It's pretty clear that the PG spot has been upgraded big time.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242917/Donald-Sloan-Agrees-Upon-One-Year-$27M-Deal-With-Guangdong-Southern
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Post#356 » by TinmanZBoy » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:09 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:So Jarrett Jack signed for the vet min, Donald Sloan is out of the league, Larkin opted out but still unsigned.

It's pretty clear that the PG spot has been upgraded big time.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242917/Donald-Sloan-Agrees-Upon-One-Year-$27M-Deal-With-Guangdong-Southern



you have to play out to see...
Lin has not established any level above a health Jarrett Jack in his career... it is honeymoon period right now, just like any season lin jumped to a new team....
just be sure not to blame coaches, teammates and FOs when things get ugly
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Post#357 » by TinmanZBoy » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:13 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
PG13 wrote:
steady wrote:Jason Kidd talk reminding me of what I remember as Lin's best performance as a Knicks. Mavericks game where he faced J Kidd.

Some nice quotes after that game by defending champion Mavs about Lin, including this

“He is very humble and plays extremely hard no matter if he makes a mistake or makes a fantastic play,” Mavericks point guard Jason Kidd said.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/sports/basketball/in-defeat-mavericks-praise-knicks-lin.html


Then the next time they met, Kidd pulled Lin to the ground by his hair. Some said that's possibly how Lin tore his meniscus.

Kidd was a great PG, but he's definitely not a particularly nice guy.


i just don't understand what's the big deal of hard fouls... Lin is an ultra aggressive player in the lane, Tyson Chandler hit him too to deter his aggressiveness, and they are good friends...
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The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#358 » by Paradise » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:56 pm

TinmanZBoy wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:So Jarrett Jack signed for the vet min, Donald Sloan is out of the league, Larkin opted out but still unsigned.

It's pretty clear that the PG spot has been upgraded big time.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242917/Donald-Sloan-Agrees-Upon-One-Year-$27M-Deal-With-Guangdong-Southern



you have to play out to see...
Lin has not established any level above a health Jarrett Jack in his career... it is honeymoon period right now, just like any season lin jumped to a new team....
just be sure not to blame coaches, teammates and FOs when things get ugly

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Fun fact: Jeremy Lin would still be a Rocket if it wasn't for Chris Bosh.

Sources: Chris Bosh speaks with Rockets.

Miami Heat forward Chris Bosh had his first direct conversation with Houston Rockets management on Monday morning, inching closer to the possibility of a four-year, $80 million-plus contract, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Houston has emerged as Bosh's top choice, should he leave the Heat, sources told Yahoo Sports. The circumstances make the Rockets a natural fit for him. Bosh can play the power forward spot alongside All-Star center Dwight Howard. He can get a maximum contract deal starting in the $20 million range annually. And he can compete for a championship in his home state of Texas, where a partnership with Howard, James Harden and restricted free agent Chandler Parsons makes the Rockets a most formidable threat in the Western Conference.

Houston still needs to unload Jeremy Lin to make space for a max contract offer, but has contingencies in place to get a trade done upon the commitment of a free-agent player, sources said.



- He left the dysfunctional Knicks for Houston. An organization on the rise.

- Houston dealt him for Bosh. It backfired.

- LA went into tank mode with an old Kobe and Boozer. Another dysfunctional situation.

- Lin signs with Charlotte on the cheap. An organization on the rise.

- Lin signs with Brooklyn on his second lucrative NBA contract. An organization on the rise.

So, this perception that Jack and Lin are both backup journeymen is inaccurate.
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Post#359 » by cw3k » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:30 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
spaceballer wrote:Article from Andy Vasquez, Nets beat writer from The Record (NJ).

http://blogs.northjersey.com/nets-nation/jeremy-lin-likes-nets-potential-1.1632695

Lin says he still has a strong connection with New York fans, but now he’ll be trying to get them to root for a new uniform.

“Hey man, if anybody here needs a team to root for, feel free to join the Nets fan base and come root for us,” Lin said. “I would love to bring as many people as we can to this organization and hopefully we’ll be able to create that following and that momentum and that environment that we would love to have.”

BrookLin! BrookLin!

Melo's another year older, Noah and Rose aren't the same. They've got KP tho.

Extra motivation.


Knicks probably will be worst than last season. On paper, the team look great and more importantly, a real coach. HOWEVER, there is a chemistry problem and health issue with Rose and Noah.

Rose needs the ball, so as Melo. Both are volume shooter. Not sure where that going to leave KP. This season is also Rose contract season, I expect him to pad his stats even more.
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Post#360 » by Paradise » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:23 am

cw3k wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:
spaceballer wrote:Article from Andy Vasquez, Nets beat writer from The Record (NJ).

http://blogs.northjersey.com/nets-nation/jeremy-lin-likes-nets-potential-1.1632695

Lin says he still has a strong connection with New York fans, but now he’ll be trying to get them to root for a new uniform.

“Hey man, if anybody here needs a team to root for, feel free to join the Nets fan base and come root for us,” Lin said. “I would love to bring as many people as we can to this organization and hopefully we’ll be able to create that following and that momentum and that environment that we would love to have.”

BrookLin! BrookLin!

Melo's another year older, Noah and Rose aren't the same. They've got KP tho.

Extra motivation.


Knicks probably will be worst than last season. On paper, the team look great and more importantly, a real coach. HOWEVER, there is a chemistry problem and health issue with Rose and Noah.

Rose needs the ball, so as Melo. Both are volume shooter. Not sure where that going to leave KP. This season is also Rose contract season, I expect him to pad his stats even more.


Rose has never been a high assist guard either. His best season in assists was his MVP season. The Knicks will be running the triangle (I assume) and Rose is a 30% three point shooter for his career. Also, Melo is a better PF at this point in his career than a Small Forward.

I like the concept of their roster but it would be better suited for 2009 or 2010.

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